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umm.
death note: the guy with the death note book (can't remember his name)
ILE
That fella's girlfriend: alpha SF
L: ILI
I love L, he's so amazing.
I had intended on waiting until we finished watching Death Note to make a topic about it, but I'm not sure that'll ever happen so I might as well post it now.
My opinion: This is the most LII piece of media I have ever seen in my entire life. :shock: Not only are both of the main characters LII, but the show itself is LII.
Death Note bores the living hell out of me and I find the concept of the show fairly uninteresting.
Agree. I dont understand why people like watching this kind of ... poo poo show.Quote:
Originally Posted by Logos
That's why I don't think we're going to finish it. :lol:
No. Hell no. And no once more in case you are not getting this through your head.Quote:
My opinion: This is the most LII piece of media I have ever seen in my entire life. :shock: Not only are both of the main characters LII, but the show itself is LII.
LII + narcissism
::sigh:: Oh Mani, not the autism card.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joy
The reasoning that the main characters use and the show idolizes seems as LII as it gets to me, based on the LII's I've known. The LII I know best though says that it's a horrible show.
I'm sure because he thinks he's smarter than the author but fails to realize he's just as delusional.
You know him and I do not, but that is still quite an assumption.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joy
I guess it depends on how you define "reality".
Joy, I think you are easily the most hating person on this forum. Nobody else quite fills this place up with their bitching about stuff they can't stand like you.
noted
Sorry, that wasn't supposed to seem like a reprimand :X
The concept seems kind of interesting, but the show seems kind of boring.
lol it's fineQuote:
Originally Posted by Gilly
I know I get ornery too often and it's something I've decided to change.
Yeah.Quote:
Originally Posted by Outside
I'm going to have to get this on DVD.
I have just finished watching Death Note and Death Note 2 (the movies, not the anime).
L: Ne-INTj
Light Yamagi / Kira: Ti-ENTp
Misa Amane: Fe-ISFp
VI?
http://tn3-1.deviantart.com/fs14/300...iacvampire.jpg
http://www.imageox.com/image/331109-l_955b3133.jpg
http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs18/f/20..._sabocchia.jpg
I'm putting my money on Alpha NT.
You want us to VI....an anime character??
sure why not. His hair is unkempt, and he likes to eat. He is rly smart too.
did i make a mistake asking you guys.
okay, sharp intuitive chin as well as piercing "T" eyes. hunched over shoulders. simple revolving collection of white shirts and blue pants. probably doesn't realize his feet are going to freeze with no shoes on. most likely INTj. how is that?
I agree.
+ prefers tea to coffee so obviously not resolute (beta/gamma) quadra (thanks, logos. heh.)
From what I remember from what little I watched: LSI.
LII.
Light's probably LSI. L is LII though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Logos
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/MyAn...joyous&categ=4Quote:
Originally Posted by Kamangir
I got the two mixed up. My mistake.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joy
Bump time:
Light Delta NF (prob. IEE) > LII > LIE -- 3w4 sp/sx
Near Gamma NT
L Alpha NT
Mello SEE
Ryuk SLE
Misa SEI
Rem EII
Watari Beta NF
Takada SLI
Mikami ESI -- 1w9
Matsuda Some Fi
Soichiro LSE
This is interesting. Why do you see him as IEE?Quote:
Originally Posted by xkj220
Because I think he is delta. What he is doing is some sort of delta idealistic crusade, all covered in hypocrisy. He seems to have Ni ignoring, or else he would have seen easily that what he attempted was unrealizable. The fact that he is a genius complicates things, but I don't think he is an NT of any sort.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coolanzon
Do you see any problems to this typing of IEE? Can you relate to him?Quote:
Originally Posted by Coolanzon
These would be the typings imo:
"L" - INTp
Light - ISTj>INTj
Mikami - ISFj
Light's dad - ESTj (from what I remember)
I think he's fundamentally "too big". At the same time, he's not really focusing on any sort of humanitarian cause, and instead his own ideals. Even arrogant, egocentric Delta NF bastards like me tend to be really selfishly selfless, and, more importantly, people-focused. Even Beta NFs would be focused on "causes that effect people" or have some sort of down-the-line possible effect (like pulling a stunt to raise awareness for something).Quote:
Originally Posted by xkj220
I think the fundamental thing for Deltas is actually having a tangible effect. I do think it's interesting to think of Light as an absolute corruption of that coming from giving a human absolute power. Why stop at treating clients to improve their quality of life? Why not just go straight to killing off the world's current criminal population and scare off any possible criminals? However I think that can still be countered with the other thing I mentioned... he's not focusing on people, he's focused on his own abstract ideals and judgement of how the world should be.
That his vision also extends to "the world" would seem to suggest Ni, too? This is a bit of a weak understanding I've gleaned from Niffweed. I think LII is out though because none of his ideals really involve "Why can't we all just get along?" or "Why does violence have to exist?" or other hippy crap like that that LIIs seem to love. Instead he reacts rather violently against imperfections. But I'll stop there, since it's been a while since I've watched the series and can't really remember Light that clearly.
For the record, I think Jennifer Dianne Reitz is an LII. Jenniverse, home of the works of Jennifer Diane Reitz, creatrix of Unicorn Jelly, Otakuworld, and the games of Accursed Toys <- website thar. I'd start with Unicorn Jelly, since a lot of her idealism gets brought through in that story, and it's pretty cool in its own right if you're a massive nerd like me and care about the laws of physics of a fictional universe as much as the characters :cool:
Light- N-LIE-Te (ENTj), INTJ, 1w2 sp/so
L- N-LII-Ti (INTj), INTP, 5w4 sx/sp
Near- N-ILI-Ni (INTp), INTJ, 5w6 sp/so
Mello- D-SEE-Fi (ESFp), ENFP, 3w4 sp/sx
Ryuk- H-LII-Ti (INTj), ISTP, 7w8 sp/sx
Misa- D-IEE-Fi (ENFp), ESFP, 4w3 sx/so
Higuchi- D-SLE-Se (ESTp), ENTJ, 8w7 sp/sx
Mikami- N-LSE-Te (ESTj), ISTJ, 1w2 so/sp
Takada- C-EIE-Fe (ENFj), ENFJ, 1w2 sx/so
Matsuda- C-IEE-Ne (ENFp), ENFP, 7w6 so/sx
Soichiro Yagami- N-SLI-Si (ISTp), ISTJ, 6w5 so/sp
Shuichi Aizawa- D-LSE-Te (ESTj), ESTJ, 6w5 sx/so
Kanzo Mogi- H-SLI-Si (ISTj), ISTJ, 2w1 so/sp
Light-Fe INFp
L- Ni ENFj
Misa- Se ISTj
Ryuk- Ni ENFj
L is a stereotypical LII. Light is a stereotypical LIE (albeit a reclusive one). I'm not sure on what planet Misa could possibly be a Logical type.
http://sas.guidespot.com/bundles/gui...gZoATEAput.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Typhon
You're right L is a stereotypcal LII, but that doesnt make him an actual LII. Light is beta NF as he seems to dabble in controversial matters of godd vs evil. And Misa isnt the logical subtype of ISTj, which is why she doesnt come of off as super logical and dry, but more emotional and bubbly and even ditzy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aleksei
I haven't see the show all that much, but L does remind me of how I imagine niffweed lives his life haha. INTj seems believable in that regard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Typhon
When it comes to TV show figures or imaginary characters in general, it'd probably be best to take them at face value, at least in terms of type. It's really difficult if not impossible to create a completely dynamic character unless it's based off of one's self, so what appears on the outside is more or less going to be how the character is.
It doesnt have to be created off of one's self, really, I think most fictional charatcers are based on real people or synthesis of several real life people. So as far as taking them at face value is concerned he seems to me EIE, L, I mean, being so starrish and media obssesed. An LII I imagine would be oblivious to his image. I think i am taking him at face value, but he is rather complex, thats the first thing that strikes me about many fictional characters; they type like real people, probably because they aerent created out of aether but based on real people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Galen
Hmm, well you may very well be right, seeing as how I've barely ever watched the show. Just in my opinion, in the clips of him I've seen on youtube, his energy seems way to staunch and unmovable for him to be anything other than Ij.Quote:
Originally Posted by Typhon
I've also never had any experience with character development, but it sounds like an interesting process if you do base a character off of somebody you already know. It just seems like the easiest way to make a character is to base it off of one's self.
Nigga say whaa? :shock: L doesn't even show his face to the public. Outside of the Kira task force, he's known to almost everyone as a voice behind a computer screen. Even the viewers don't get to see him till episode 7 or so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Typhon
And further than that, L... a Beta type? What are you smoking?
No he doesnt show his face to the public but hes still a media whore. And what am I smoking? Wahtever you are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aleksei
That's abjectly incorrect. The one and only mass public display he did was done to draw Kira out, and it was done because it was by far the most efficient way to go about it. He actually takes great pains to conceal his actual identity, going so far as to utilize not just one, but three pseudonyms (Eraldo Coil being one).Quote:
Originally Posted by Typhon
That's still not proof that he's Beta though. I really can't see how L can possibly be anything but an alpha NT.
L = INTp
Light = INTj
Light, Alpha? L, Gamma? No way.
Light IEI
Near LIE
Light: LSI-Ne, 1w2 so/sp (INTJ)
Ryuk: SEI-Si, 5w6 sp/sx (ISTP)
L: LII-Ne, 5w4 sx/sp (INTP)
Near: ILI-Ne, 5w6 sp/so (INTJ)
Mello: SLE-Ne, 3w4 sp/sx (ENFP)
Misa: EIE-Se, 4w3 sx/so (ENFJ)
Takada: IEE-Fi, 1w2 so/sx (ENFJ)
Higuchi: SLE-Te, 8w7 sp/so (ENTJ)
Mikami: LSI-Fi, 1w2 so/sx (ISTJ)
Matsuda: EIE-Se, 7w6 so/sx (ENFP)
Soichiro: SLI-Si, 6w5 so/sp (ISTJ)
Aizawa: LSE-Si, 6w7 sx/so (ESTJ)
Mogi: SLI-Ti, 6w5 sp/so (ISTJ)
Near is so :Ti: it hurts to watch.
I've heard ESI for Light. What are your reasons for LSI?
My own thoughts would be the fact that he's a brutal mass-murderer? And basically completely ruthlessly evil.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryene Astraelis
INTPs have claimed L. The eyes are a big clue, but personally I haven't watched anything to judge.
LSI
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thanks Arthur
-_-Quote:
Originally Posted by Thanks Arthur
I'm looking for a Socionic explanation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thanks Arthur
Also, I have found 2-3 other threads on the Death Note series, one of which is by Aleksei, and that's without checking the second page of search results. Why do we need yet another one when a poster can simply grave-dig one of the others?
Socionics explanation: would an ESI, "the Conservator", the type known for having a keen judgement of good and evil, do that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryene Astraelis
@Skeptic
I somewhat liked Light, actually, but you can't ignore the fact that he had no problems manipulating people to save his own hide. Seems pretty evil to me, at the very least in the DnD sense.
I will concede that "brutal" was not exactly accurate, however. But he did kill a whole lot of people. Definition of "mass-" murderer.
They theoretically could, if they didn't perceive it as evil, as Light didn't (he perceived himself as dishing out justice and promoting the greater good, albeit at his self-admitted expense of letting one evil person live, himself). A good example of that is Claude Frollo engaging in racially motivated genocide for what he perceives as the good of France and the Church. Remember, your definitions of "good" and "evil" are not everyone's definitions - especially in a culture like Japan, which is less dominated by humanistic post-Enlightenment ethics than the Western world. The Mosaic law and thus traditional Judaic ethics says stoning of male homosexuals is good and just. The Homeric moral code says racking up a large body count in battle is moral and just, as it promotes an example of strength. Many moral codes are anathema to the moral system of Enlightenment humanism, but that doesn't make them any less theories of ethics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thanks Arthur
However, I do agree that Light Yagami is LSI, for the following reasons:
1) It fits his intertype relations reasonably well. I could very clearly see him and Misa as LSI-EIE duality.
2) He seems ridiculously Ti, not really concerned for pragmatic efficiency so much as what is logically consistent with his worldview and vision of the world.
3) His manipulation style seems Fe, playing at the emotions of people like Misa and Takada as opposed to the Fi sort of "I scratch your back, you scratch mine" manipulation which plays on interpersonal distance as opposed to overall emotions, best exhibited by Vito Corleone in The Godfather. He, indeed, really doesn't seem concerned at all for depth of interpersonal relationships, one of the core elements of Fi.
Oh, yeah, and I rooted for Light. I think his vision of the world would make for a better society - a society with strictly defined rules of conduct, strict law, and strict penalties - which leads to adherence to said law. A conductive, organic society, in other words.
Lol @ Light as Sensing.
Excerpt from Reinen's Book (INTj's use of :Ne:):
Sound familiar to any of you?Quote:
“The world should live in harmony, people deserve to be happy", says a Robespierre, "so let's take a guillotine and chop off heads of all bad people who hamper our creation so that only good ones remain and everyone will be happy. Let's build a society free of the bad people, oppression, violence, injustice … But this purpose is achieved by means of a guillotine”. This is how this type expresses his creativity.
Ne also includes considering multiple ways in which events could unfold, and operating under all of those premises. Light seems to have only one vision of how the future could unfold, which gets him into trouble on numerous occasions as it leaves him unprepared. L, by contrast, never ignores a possibility - he clearly shows Ne.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crispy
Additionally, Wikisocion's Se definition:
That driven nature describes Light to the T.Quote:
Extroverted sensing (Se) is an extroverted, irrational, and static information element. It is also called Se, F, volitional sensing, or black sensing.
Se includes the ability to know how much power, force, or influence is latent or required.
Types that value Se are much more comfortable with direct behavior aimed at making an immediate impact. This may at times be perceived as abrasive, particularly by types who do not value Se. There is usually a competitive edge to this style of group interaction, resulting in a more intense atmosphere than that of introverted sensing (Si)-valuing quadras. They appreciate contemplating possibilities only if they feel like they stand to gain something from it, or it has a perceived potential impact on "the real world".
Unlike Si, which is about one's subjective sensory experience (how intense or enjoyable it is), Se is about achieving an object of desire. It gives one the ability to influence, bend, and push situations and people in order to achieve such an object, rather than to enjoy the situation one is in.
Plus, Wikisocion's definition of LSI's creative function:
That maneuvering for power and vantage points to gain leverage over his enemies, decisively enforcing rules and punishing violators - that's what Light always does.Quote:
2. Se Extraverted Sensing
LSIs prefer to apply their clear, logical thinking to forcibly affect how the real world is organized, rather than simply producing conjectures or thought exercises that have no material application. LSIs prefer to work with systems of "real" things — material assets, organizations, management, and production — and to perfect their structure and organization (Ti). When they are certain they are right, LSIs can act decisively to enforce rules, and, if necessary, to punish violators, in order to protect the integrity of the system.
LSIs handle high-pressure situations well and can maneuver skillfully around obstacles to achieve their goals. They cannot be intimidated easily by displays of force or aggression, but follow closely the balance of power and make sure they are in the best position.
So you would say Light is more physically aggressive than spiritually aggressive, I'd presume? :lol:
I actually like LII > LSI. The whole point of the series seems to be that Light goes bad due to following his ideals more and more while having a steadily weakening grasp on the real world.
I would say Light is bent on punishing violators of his personal code of law, which fits the very definition of Se-creative. He's not generally directly aggressive, but he also showed in the scene where he got into a fist-fight with L that he's not afraid to be directly aggressive when need be, when the vantage point is most beneficial for leverage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crispy
Oh, and from the Ne-PoLR definition:
I seem to recall quite a few of these childish tantrums when Light fails to meet his goals, and even when an obstacle to said goals presents itself. It's what attracted L's attention in the first place. Not to mention his incoherent psychotic tantrum at the end of the series.Quote:
They set clearly achievable goals, which they often reach. Failure to meet these goals causes the LSI to express anger and lose control of his emotions in the form of a seemingly childish tantrum.
That's all I needed to know.Quote:
Originally Posted by CloudCuckooLander
I actually haven't thoroughly analyzed the show as of yet (only watched all 30-sumthin episodes once). I'd like to make a list of all these character's types but it will probably take me days or even weeks, as I go for quality over quantity. If I come to absolute certainty on a few character's types I might post them up here.
Update
Light- LSI-Ne, 1w2 so/sx (INTJ)
L- LII-Ne, 5w4 sx/sp (INTP)
Mello- SEE-Ne, 3w4 so/sp (ENFP)
Near- LII-Ne, 5w6 sp/so (INTJ)
Misa- EIE-Se, 2w1 sx/so (ENFJ)
Ryuk- SEI-Ne, 7w6 sp/sx (ISTP)
Higuchi- LSI-Te, 8w7 sp/so (ENTJ)
Mikami- LSI-Ti, 1w9 so/sp (ISTJ)
Takada- EIE-Ti, 1w2 sx/so (ENFJ)
Matsuda- EIE-Se, 1w2 so/sx (ENFP)
Soichiro Yagami- LSI-Ti, 6w5 so/sp (ISTJ)
Aizawa- SLE-Ti, 6w7 sx/so (ESTJ)
Mogi- LSI-Ti, 1w2 so/sp (ISTJ)
Watari- SEI-Si 1w2 sx/sp (INFJ)
Put pics of them so I can VI, lol
I don't strongly object to ESI for Light, but his sense of JUSTICE appears too generalized for :Fi: -- it seems rather clearly Aristocratic (what with giving all criminals, even jaywalkers, the literal axe, for example).
L seems pretty Si-valuing, what with being a sweet-addicted pervert and stuff.
Aleksei u r wrong.
Well, you are better off if you back up that statement -- preferably employing correct spelling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Typhon
lol I was just kidding with you. I dont really agree with your typings of some of these charasters, but I dont see any point in discussing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlekseiWell, you are better off if you back up that statement -- preferably employing correct spelling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Typhon
Fictionally speaking, L is unhealthy. His Ti is neurotic, probably a result of feeling unsafe and wanting to figure things out to gain security. He has no actual friends, is probably a schizoid, and has a high distrust of everyone. His diet is supposedly full of sweets and caffeine to keep him going from lack of sleep and he doesn't seem to have much concern for his overall well-being over his desire to figure or predict everyone/everything out.
The ego functions aren't supposed to be unhealthy. It wouldn't make any sense. The super-id is an unconscious area where Jungian neurosis and obsession stem from. If you were to suggest LII, then he would have to either be neurotic from Si (focusing on the details of objects - firsthand impressions) or Fe (focusing on being personally passionate with other people).
But he instead is concerned with estimating (secondhand impressions) and neurotically understanding and predicting the people around him. The whole show is basically him confronting Light and trying to stop him. Why would an Se-PoLR do that? Why would it make any sense to attribute unhealthy aspects to the ego?
Here's what I came up with, if anyone cares. I supplied some basic reasoning so you can follow how I came up with it.
I use a method of typing that's a bit different than MBTI/socionics.
Basically, how I see it, the unconscious functions follow the conscious ones.
And they are continuously updated by the ego, their expression more of a test on the competence of the ego.
So I came up with
L - Ni-Fe //Fe because he gets to know people to analyze/figure things out. He's more considerate in this regard too over Te.
Near - Ni-Te //Te because he gathers information about how a situation leads to another
Light - Te-Ni //Reminds me more of Jung's Te and his Ni is used to determine the best course of action
Mello - Se-Fi could work. He does fit Jung's Se better than anything else, imo. Te would be his way of testing his ego over Fe.
L and Near both seem to fit Jung's Ni.
How about applying DnD alignments to Light?
I'd say Chaotic Good, although the conviction reeks of unique lawfulness of a strange variety.
The police is mostly lawful, especially Light's father. L on the other hand might be NG.
This is how serious I'm about typing people.
I haven't seen the show in a couple of years, but from what I remember, L seemed more True Neutral. Now I want to go back and watch the first season again, though instead of doing this paper. Thanks for that.
Glad to be of assistance. :biggrin:
I'm rewatching the whole series.
True Neutral also seems to have a good viewpoint.
He comes off as a cold neglected person with serious issues (or maybe just Fe PoLR) and deceives himself with his sense of absolute justice.
I still believe he's a good person. Better than most of the pussies unable to make a kill perceived righteous even if you wouldn't need to actually do anything besides write a name. It's a virtue to be cold and calculative when fighting evil.
Then again I don't believe in:
Absolute moral
Death sentence like that to be effective in making a better world
I'd still use Death Note if I would be handed one, but killing convicts sounds like an old testament style "eye for an eye" thing.
.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crispy
Misa proposing to be Light's gf:
http://i.imgur.com/PXFxs.png
HAHA VICTIM
SPOILER ALERT; can't remember how to do that openable window thingy
The boy shows affection
http://i.imgur.com/EnQz7.png
Complements her eyes
http://i.imgur.com/rBQrg.jpg
And the girl is devoted
http://i.imgur.com/kyk2Y.jpg
600th post! I'm such a romantic!
Poli IS L
http://i52.tinypic.com/anh6b4.jpg
I don't remember every character in detail but anyway TYPINGS ARE FUN, NOW WITH 20% MORE ENNEAGRAM. :thumbsup:
Yagami Light: Ti-INTj (1w2)
Ryuk: Ne-ENTp (7w6)
L: Ne-INTj (9w1)
Amane Misa: Si-ESFj (2w3)
Rem: IxFx
The Kira Investigation Team is almost entirely Delta.
Matsuda: Fi-ENFp
Soichiro Yagami: Te-ESTj
Shuichi Aizawa: Si-ESTj
Kanzo Mogi: Te-ISTp
Near: Ti-INTj
Mello: Pe-Exxp
LoL and awwQuote:
Originally Posted by Radio
Your typings sound plausible though I don't remember all the names of the characters. Besides that Misa and Light don't look too much dualz but i guess there's so much more on the background such as Light's god of justice complex.
I just got into this show and I'm loving it so far. I generally agree with Radio's typings aside from a few differences and I added instinctual stackings.
Light Yagami: Ti-LII 1w2 sp/sx
Ryuk: Ne-ILE 7w6 sx/sp
L: Ni-ILI 5w4 sp/sx
Misa Amane: Fe-ESE 2w3 sx/so
Rem: Se-ESI 4w3 so/sx
Matsuda: Fi-ENFp 2w3 so/sx
Soichiro Yagami: 1w9 Te-LSE sp/so
Shuichi Aizawa: 8w9 Si-LSE sx/sp
Kanzo Mogi: 9w8 Si-SLI sp/so
Light LIE
L LII
N ILI
Looking back, Light as LIE makes sense, but I'd switch L and N's types.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pookie
Light - Te-LIE
L - Ni-ILI
N - Ne-LII
Ryuk - Ne-ILE
Misa - Si-ESE
Mello - Fi-SEE
Rem - Fe-SEI
Mikami - Ti-LSI
Takada - Fi-ESI
Matsuda - Ne-IEE
Soichiro - Te-LSE
Aiwaza - Si-LSE
Mogi - Si-SLI
There's even a test that typed all the characters and you figure out which character/personality type you are.
http://www.helloquizzy.com/quizzy/re...447&resultid=5
It's been a long time since i watched the show, so you could be right. The thing most memorable about N and L is that N could go off of limited information, whereas L needed to be 100% sure before doing anything. And i feel as though that is why N caught Light, because he went with his gut. Whereas L could be 99% sure and still not pull the trigger.
Coming to think about it, L had a totally unusual way of maintaining his own health. He'd eat snacks all night, stay up weird hours, and neglect himself in that regard. That probably fits in pretty well with an Si-Role function. So I agree with you. L-ILI N - LII
Hey, my stacking, plus socionics subtype. Was wondering if there was an example out there; I guess it's fictional, but that's better than nothing. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Raver
I must have forgotten about this show, had a thought, remembered, and wondered. I've read some think L might be asperger. But this character is a lot like me, uncanny in the similarity; very high-functioning perhaps. Maybe it doesn't matter much then. But I know aspergers does have a higher incidence of gender dysphoria, though it's questionable in MTF transsexuals as they do not have problems with understanding other people's emotions, but in how to be a natural self around others that judge them as men, but nevermind.
But some people type L IEI or INFJ in MBTI I guess because of the high amount of intuition. I don't think the Ni subtype is as prickly, fault-finding, or hostile as the Te subtype seems to often be (on this board anyway), making it harder for an Ni leading Ni subtype to decide between IEI or ILI, I suppose.
But anyway, I agree fully with you Raver.
Revised:
Light: LIE
L: LII
Misa: Fi-SEE
Ryuk: Ne-ILE
Rem: ESI
Matsuda: IEE
Soichiro: LSE
Aizawa: LSE
Higochi: SLE
Namikawa: Te-ILI or Ti-LII
How haven't I seen this thread before...?
Light
ILI-Te, So/Sp 1w2 (153).
L
LII, Sp/Sx 9w1 (953).
Misa
SEE-Fi, Sx/Sp 3w4 (369).
Ryuk
IEE-Ne, Sp/Sx 7w8 (784).
Soichiro
LSE-Si, So/Sp 6w5 (638).
Matsuda
SEI-Fe, So/Sx 9w1 (963).
Rem
ESI-Fi, Sx/Sp 9w8 (964).
Watari
SLI-Te, So/Sp 6w5 (693).
Naomi
ESI, Sp/Sx 6w5 (649).
Near
LII-Ti, So/Sp 5w6 (593).
Somehow I find Mello's type to be a tough cookie. It's difficult to really pinpoint it. He seems to have some contradictory traits; those you wouldn't find in real life. I keep switching back and forth between SEE and IEE-Fi for him, and his Enneagram is difficult, too... I'm guessing 3w4 So/Sp (368) as of now...
Light LIE 1w2 so/sp
L LII 5w4 sx/sp
Near ILI (LII?) 5w6 sp/so
Mello ILE 3w4 sx/sp
Ryuk ? 7w8 sp/sx
Misa SEE-Fi sx/so
Mikami Te-ego 1w2 sp/sx
Matsuda IEE-Fi so/sx
Soichiro Yagami LSE 6w5 sp/so
Naomi Misora ESI 6w5 sp/sx
contra-flow: Light, Ryuk, Misa, Mikami
vs
syn-flow: L, Near, Mello, Soichiro Yagami, Matsuda, etc..
Light: ILI-Te (or LIE-Ni) 153 sounds right
L: LII
Misa: SEE-Fi 3w4 sx/so, 379
Ryuk: Don't know if I buy IEE (seems transparently Fi PoLR) but certainly Ep and 7w8, 748 sp/sx sounds right
Matsuda: IEE 7w6 (or 6w7) so/sx
Mello: Se/Ni Ep 3w4
Near: LII (or ILI) 5
Rem: ESI
Naomi: ESI
Yagami: LSE
Watari: SLI-Te
Misa's my fav. :lol:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pAlMcqnscbU
I think Light is too proficient with Fe to be an Fe vulnerable type. I'd say he's more likely to be LIE, while L and Near are examples of 1D Fe types.
Still riding that ILI wave for L pretty hard. I think Misa Misa would have drove him nuts if he was an LII. He adored her.
Misa was always pissed off by him, he just took it peacefully and with a calm attitude because he is Type 9. He also overlooked her attitude because he thought she's not that bright anyway and hot. Guys are usually more lenient with hot women. :p