Is there any real benefit in having a high intelligence?

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Originally Posted by ishysquishy

Is there any real benefit in having a high intelligence?

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No

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Originally Posted by ishysquishy

Is there any real benefit in having a high intelligence? I mean, aside from the ability to look down your nose at the rest of the world (which you don't necessarily need a high intelligence to do). Or the security that here is something that almost no-one can beat you at.

Being intelligent doesn't make people respect you or take you seriously. It doesn't make people like you any more.

It doesn't make you socially mature, or make you think before you act. It doesn't even make you lucid.

Supposedly it's a foot in the door... but which door?

Is there anything to look forward to, or is it no more than an arbitrary trait?

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Actually, intelligence is, all other things being equal, the factor which has the greatest influence on income.

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Actually, intelligence is, all other things being equal, the factor which has the greatest influence on income.

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Not necessarily.

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Originally Posted by Hugo

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Actually, intelligence is, all other things being equal, the factor which has the greatest influence on income.

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Not necessarily.

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I agree that my statement might be incorrect on an individual comparison basis, but taking aggregates of income and aggregates of intelligence, it is true.

I'm not exactly sure how to reply to this post without becoming angry and rude. Sorry...

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Originally Posted by Cone

I'm not exactly sure how to reply to this post without becoming angry and rude. Sorry...

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Please be angry and rude if you wish to, no problem

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Originally Posted by Transigent

For instance, Henry Ford made more impact then Albert Einstein, even though one was normal and the other was a genius. However, Einstein's work was more "beautiful" since it was about the structure of existence. (But who made more of an ACTUAL impact on the world??? It is about even it seems, and only recently.)

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Here it is, I was waiting for a comparison like this. I explicitly said that you should not compare the genius scientist and the richest-man of the world; a better comparison would be one between a phisycian and a secretary.

I agree when you say that the marginal return of the intelligence falls apart in the top 15-10 percentile.


Furthermore, please do not believe that with my posts I am trying to attack people with normal income and genius iq, or vice versa. It's just the reply to the answer - Is there any real benefit in having a high intelligence?

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Originally Posted by NFp-

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Originally Posted by FDG

a better comparison would be one between a phisycian and a secretary.

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I think the nature of interest comes into play here. What if I don't like studying organs but like organizing things and writing letters?

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What if scenarios are not good in statistical analysis. However, generally speaking, organizing things and writing letters is a skill less associated with traits of high iq than the ones of a physician (which is not really equal to studying organs; in dealing with real situation you need a lot of good analytical and cognitive skills to recognize the symptoms and the corresponding illness).

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It is correct in the frame of reference of solving complex problems. Otherwise, not.

I agree with you, however. I am one of the kids kept at regular pace. I think that this applies to most NTs I know.

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Freedom is being allowed to think and do what you want.
Intelligence is being able to.

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It seems to me that the higher your intellegence the more focused you are in limited areas of study. Social skills and interaction tend to fall away. Cone is a prime example.

Also, the drive for stimulation is in constant high gear. Restlessness and tension occur if constantly stimulation is not present.

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Originally Posted by ishysquishy

Which type is supposed to be the "high intelligence" type?

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I would say INTp. Just look at Cone and Sycophant. :wink:

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Shouldn't you be in bed? :lol:

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Originally Posted by ishysquishy

Is there any real benefit in having a high intelligence?
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Is there anything to look forward to, or is it no more than an arbitrary trait?

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There is a real benefit, I wouldn't have made it so easy through college if I wouldn't have been blessed with a "little above average IQ"...

However, raw intelligence is nothing if is not properly used... if you want to look for something look for wisdom, it is a way better trait. Look at what the person did with what he received. Did he buried it in the ground or did he multiplied it.

I'm 29, single and alone... my cousin is 23 married and has a child.

I might be smarter and have a bigger paycheck BUT money isn't everything.

She might have more troubles but I believe the benefits outweighs them.

If I would have been wiser maybe I wouldn't have left the first girl I loved (something I lived to regret) and maybe I would have been a father too, maybe I would have felt complete now rather than empty.

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Originally Posted by Transigent

I don't understand why you put "however" in that sentence?
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Because I'm not a native english speaker :D

Is it more important to be high intellegent, rich, extremly charming, funny, etc ...or just to be happy the way you are?

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Originally Posted by FDG

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Originally Posted by Transigent

For instance, Henry Ford made more impact then Albert Einstein, even though one was normal and the other was a genius. However, Einstein's work was more "beautiful" since it was about the structure of existence. (But who made more of an ACTUAL impact on the world??? It is about even it seems, and only recently.)

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Here it is, I was waiting for a comparison like this. I explicitly said that you should not compare the genius scientist and the richest-man of the world; a better comparison would be one between a phisycian and a secretary.

I agree when you say that the marginal return of the intelligence falls apart in the top 15-10 percentile.


Furthermore, please do not believe that with my posts I am trying to attack people with normal income and genius iq, or vice versa. It's just the reply to the answer - Is there any real benefit in having a high intelligence?

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Originally Posted by Olga

Is it more important to be high intellegent, rich, extremly charming, funny, etc ...or just to be happy the way you are?

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The latter, but this does not exclude the former.

There's a benefit to having above average intelligence, but beyond that intelligence is fairly useless.

Extreme intelligence has its price. Extremely intelligent people see life as a moment-by-moment struggle for survival. Every move is carefully scrutinized and contemplated. Although they can hope for a better future, their analysis is so thorough as to consign them to the best their conditions allow. They don't attempt to fight their conditions, either. What comes will come, and what does not come does not.

Don't feel inferior to exceptionally intelligent people if you aren't one of them, because in many ways they themselves are inferior to you.

OK, first, I think a LOT of people think that they are either intelligent or even geniuses, pretty much everyone, and far too many for it to be actually true. The problem is self-perception and deception. I'm starting to wonder who really is "intelligent", and who isn't. It doesn't seem like there are really that many truely intelligent people. I would say true intelligence leads people to accomplish important things in their lives. How many people make an IMPACT? Exactly... If you are one of these people, you are very rare, and most definatly famous by now, otherwise, shut up. You're not a genius.

BTW, from what I've seen, it seems like intelligence trancends type. I have meet smart and stuipid people in every type.

And for what it's worth, today an EII girl told me she thought I was more "street smart". :8* Whatever the hell that's suppossed to mean...

*Genius, -es, sub.
-1. As smart/nearly as smart as me, 2nd and 3rd person
-2. Smarter than you, 1st person
*Intellige[nce], -s, sub.
-1. Something I've got
-2. Something you've got if similar to me
*-nt, adj.
-Similar to me, having above trait
*Street smart, adj.
-1. I'm smarter than you, but in some areas that don't really matter you might be better than me, 2nd person
-2. My maths may not be as good as yours, but I've got it where it counts, 1st person
*-s, sub.,
-Having the facility for above.

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Originally Posted by NFp-

I think that high intelligence is over-rated in a way. My aunt and uncle (both are Ns) mind a lot about their kids coming up the top in their class and securing scholarships. In family gatherings, all they could talk about is so and so's children getting how many As in their studies.

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Well I know people will differ BUT i think that's stupid. I've seen this behaviour and I've promised myself I would never ever do that to my kids... Insisting that my kid gets an A on some random class means in my view that the kid should eventually bend over and have the professor stick it high up his ass... Just because some looser thinks he can teach doesn't mean that he actually can. Why should my kid suffer from me too?
I would give him only one rule: Have as much fun as you can without disturbing the others. With a good teacher this would mean learning new things... with a bad one... I don't know... practicing his doodle or some other thing he likes...