I just had an idea about something
I just had an interesting idea about how extraverted/introverted and judging/perceiving functions work. The follows is an idea I have came up with:
Ego Functions
Extraverted Judging: How you do something
Introverted Judging: What that something is you do
Extraverted Perceiving: How you see something
Introverted Perceiving: What you see
To explain this I am going to use an INTj as an example.
Extraverted Judging function according to my idea is how you do something. This means the manner in which one conducts his daily activities. As for an INTj, they will do things economical. They will try to do things as symmetrical and aligned as possible. They will no blow resources without reason. They will conduct things in a systematic manner.
Introverted Judging according to my idea is what the individual actually is or does. This is what the person actually does. Most organized thought is of the introverted judging functions manner. In an INTjs case it would be to analyze and to break ideas, objects, and systems apart. This is what the introverted judging function does... it is what thought is.
Extraverted Perceiving according to this is how you see something, or in the manner in which something is viewed. For INTjs, its relatively. INTjs see all the possibilities, or see all the possible scenerios when viewing something. This is how they look at everything.
Introverted Perceiving according to my idea is what the person sees and values. In the INTjs case it is originality and singularity. INTjs see all originally, and would love to be original. This is what the person strives to be.
Now basically there is an equilibrium to how the functions work. Everything thats done is presented in the opposite manner. For INTjs, the disorganize things in an organized manner. Now one of the questions that has been brought up is how Ne and Ni work when using this same rule.
Well +Ne/-Ni is viewed as looking at things in a relative manner, and striving to see originality in things. These two things are going in the opposite directions like all of the other functions that are connected. Relative is multiplicity. Its looking at all things as having unspecialized characteristics about them. Take the concepts of right and wrong for example. +Ne views these things as being arbitrary, or ordinary. Basically +Ne is about viewing things in an ordinary manner, not placing special meaning in certain things. Its looking at all things in a despecialized manner. -Ni is the content, it strives to be original or not arbitrary.
Now take -Ne/+Ni for example. -Ne is about seeing things in a absolutistic manner. Its about seeing things in a singular viewpoint. Singular could be replaced with "original" viewpoint. +Ne values normalcy though. It strives to fit in. It doesn't want to stand out.
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I just had an interesting idea about how extraverted/introverted and judging/perceiving functions work. The follows is an idea I have came up with:
Ego Functions
Extraverted Judging: How you do something
Introverted Judging: What that something is you do
Extraverted Perceiving: How you see something
Introverted Perceiving: What you see
Surely in order to know how one sees something one must know what one sees. Therefore, EJ and EP are simply better versions of IJ and IP respectively, which is clearly incorrect. Hence, your idea is rendered flawed. Care to explain the flaw?
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Originally Posted by hitta
I just had an interesting idea about how extraverted/introverted and judging/perceiving functions work. The follows is an idea I have came up with:
Ego Functions
Extraverted Judging: How you do something
Introverted Judging: What that something is you do
Extraverted Perceiving: How you see something
Introverted Perceiving: What you see
Surely in order to know how one sees something one must know what one sees. Therefore, EJ and EP are simply better versions of IJ and IP respectively, which is clearly incorrect. Hence, your idea is rendered flawed. Care to explain the flaw?
Oh dear, um ok I think I understand where I got yall off on this. Ok for starters in the ego block everyone has an extraverted judging, introverted judging, extraverted perceiving, and introverted perceiving. How you do something means the manner in which one does something. For ENTjs as an example, the do things in a risky chaotic manner(Extraverted Judging;-Te). I didn't mean for this to mean that EJ types know how to do something. ENTjs organize and systematize things in a risky way. Organize and systematize is what they do(Introverted Judging;+Ti). Introverted Judging functions are the major thought processes in people. They are what the person constantly uses. ENTjs see things in an absolutist manner(Extraverted Perceiving;-Ne). This is how they see the world. They tend to believe in the spiritualistic amazing original world.
+Ni is what the ENTj wants to see and what they want to be. So the ENTj usually wants to fit in and conform to society. I hope this sums things up well.
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Oh dear, um ok I think I understand where I got yall off on this. Ok for starters in the ego block everyone has an extraverted judging, introverted judging, extraverted perceiving, and introverted perceiving.
And this is where I disagree.
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Originally Posted by Ezra
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Originally Posted by hitta
Oh dear, um ok I think I understand where I got yall off on this. Ok for starters in the ego block everyone has an extraverted judging, introverted judging, extraverted perceiving, and introverted perceiving.
And this is where I disagree.
If it wasn't like this there would be part of the person missing so to speak. They would be missing key aspects of personality.