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Originally Posted by liveandletlive
OK so from my own experiences, I have seen many ENTj's and ESTj's buying into some sketchy girl/guy's lame line and then end up getting heartbroken.
Maybe. Personally, this has never happened. I am extremely wary about Fi, very suspicious, especially at first. It is hard for me to trust, somewhat. But at the same time I definitely don't mind pushing forward.
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Has anyone else known an ENTj or an ESTj where this has happened? I know that this happens to everyone however, I feel like it happens to them more often than most other types because of their leading function being :Te: and their suggestive being :Fi: . It's almost like they need their partner to keep them updated on the status of the relationship, their feelings, etc.,
Absolutely. I need that, constantly. It doesn't need to be "verbalized", I just need to see it. Act in ways that don't make me suspicious - I can't open up to people that way.
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and because their duals are IXFj's they expect these feelings to be constant.
I want that, I need that. Do I expect that? Not at all. I don't expect that from anyone, honestly. But I don't have a habit of making connections easily with people, or having a lot of really close friends anyways, so, it is hard to say. But in order for any sort of relationship development, yes, smooth constant feelings are what I crave.
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Maybe because I'm an irrational type and my creative function is :Fi: but I'll feel one way one moment and a few moments later a completely different way for no apparent reason. For types that are irrational or have :Fi: as their creative function, these types probably would confuse and have the capacity to easily deceive the rational ESTjs and ENTjs.
I am extremely wary about ESFps for that reason (nothing against you). Absolutely, though, it is different. What is repelling is when you change your Fi status on a whim, and its like, just shoots off huge vibes that I cannot be much around you, or if I do, everything is just 'not very serious', because your Fi is so fickle. (Keep in mind this is coming form a Te subtype who is heavily seeking Fi)
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Anyways, I think ESTjs and ENTjs are more prone to being deceived than other types because they view/expect/want other peoples' emotions are consistent, constant, and true where this may not be the case. What do you guys think? Do you think this could also apply with ISTj's and INTj's in terms of :Ti: / :Fe: ? I have yet to see this myself but I'm curious to see what you guys think.
I am not sure what to say about that, it seems more a matter of life experience and perhaps maturity.
ESFjs are MIE MUCH more susceptible to not understanding how people feel about them, or thinking people like them more than they really do. Compared to all the ESTjs I know at least. They are very positive and very much believing in the emotional goodness of people, unrealistically so.