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The inability to avoid the fact that we all share a single planet together - regardless of what you think or believe in
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Religious Views:
The inability to avoid the fact that we all share a single planet together - regardless of what you think or believe in
I don't know, but it doesn't sound all that unlike something I might say. Except... nicer?
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The kind of love we should advocate is the wider love that you can have even for someone who has done harm to you: your enemy.
Sounds like an ENFj thingy.
That quote is stupid though. It's not really possible to love your true enemies, that's why they are your enemies. Like, duh! Somebody that doesn't want to bring you down in with them, but somebody that wants to change you too much or deny your very existence. To me, those are your true enemies. Most people make fun/bother you simply because they want to be your friend but don't understand you. A true enemy to me is somebody that cannot accept when you just can't do something.
We usually love people that hurt us. In fact, I hate people that say over-encouraging things or have to tell me they love me every three seconds. That is just insecure and weak.
This is actually more complicated than it sounds. It's the reason why Christianity is bogus, too.
Yes it is. You have to understand them; when you can actually grasp why someone might have done something evil or ill-intended to you or someone you care about, it's impossible to hate them without making a conscious effort. That has been my experience, anyways. My grandfather's second wife married him for his money, or at least claimed to, and when I found that out I hated her with a passion, because he died having spent all of his money and the last months of his life building an extension for her house. I loved my grandfather more than any man on this planet except for my father, nearly as much, and I hated that woman. But when I learned more about her family history and the things she had gone through in life, I couldn't even force myself to harbor more than a tiny misgiving about having sympathy for her.
But maybe that's just me.
I agree that the quote sounds Fe, btw.
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Because he identifies with it strongly and he thought it was stereotypically INFj.
The quote was made by the Dalai Lama.
Unsurprisingly.
Nor are your own comments.
Although I am interested in that you see us as duals.
You apparently have no clue about what positive, easy going psychological relationships feel like.
Surprise me, Gilly, and jump off a very tall building.
Duals don't have to get along. It's not a rule.
I am actually somewhat drawn to your constant resistance to my influence, to be honest. It makes you more interesting.
Of course duals don't have to get along.
That is why I worded things the way I did.
It is like I have to constantly try to explain myself, in vain to Gilly. It's different from when I disagree with some people about things, like Fi types - there is some sort of common ground and desire to discuss things. But here it's just some sort of game, "oh, I know you say this, but you really mean this".
Gilly and I do not have a flowing psychological relationship where we understand each other easily. He is "apparently" not able to understand me and apparently doesn't want to. This is some sort of "game" to him.
I wouldn't be surprised if most of what he does is intentionally to annoy me, as he has done before. Even this comment -
I know I'm insanely appealing to some people, but you just have to get over it.Quote:
I am actually somewhat drawn to your constant resistance to my influence, to be honest. It makes you more interesting.
PS: I have a feeling that I should not give this post such a serious tone to it - it doesn't matter what I say or write.
The aspect I was addressing is how Gilly seems to continuously be "reading into things" instead of taking what I say at face value (a possible Fe/Ti V Fi/Te difference. Beta Ni+Fe is known for pulling/pushing. Maybe both forms of Ni/Se are that way, including Gamma. That, briefly, is the socionic aspect I was getting at.
Because I feel no common ground with him, at all.Quote:
Why do you think this this type related?
A lot of it isn't type related, yes.
You make it sound like EVERYTHING I said in the post is based on the idea that the problems I have with Gilly are type related. Clearly I do not think of Gilly favorably (in some ways. Of course, I do not "hate" him, he's just annoying at the moment). Annoying someone or being appealing is not necessarily type related, yes.Quote:
Why do you think this is type related? In my experience the level of annoyance has much more to do with personality than anything else.
No, because it will only further a conversation with Gilly that is already futile.Quote:
Why? Because everyone doesn't agree with you? I'll admit that can be stressful at times...
Why on earth would I expect everyone to agree with me, especially here? A consensus on this forum is essentially unheard of.
Hm, why did you bring all of this up here? Because how things were going flipped your switch about "magical duality" stuff?Quote:
Hey my point is, communication, "a flowing psychological relationship" has its benefits....
But it's not everything. That's all I'm saying.
What has caused you to write so much about this?
Actually I'm fairly sure that I understand you somewhat well as a person, as fervently as you will deny it, or as uncomfortable for you as that may be. Maybe I am wrong, but I don't think so.
:lol: Precisely my words.Quote:
I know I'm insanely appealing to some people, but you just have to get over it.
No, more like your resistance to my analysis just feels like all the more reason for me to keep up with it.
You're right :) You probably shouldn't have said anything.Quote:
PS: I have a feeling that I should not give this post such a serious tone to it - it doesn't matter what I say or write.