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I thought ENFp too...
What about the guy?
I've always loved Dick Cavvet for some reason. There's something really mellow and cool about him. He's a great interveiwer
another interview between the two (supposedly Janis's last according to the you-tube video)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18bQ3HSxB2Q[/youtube]
:lol: That's great...Quote:
Originally Posted by hkkmr
Yeah, he reminds me of this guy I know irl who seems maybe ENxp. Probably ENTp. He drew a card for one of his friends once... it had a blue sky, a green field, a smiling flower and a rabbit. Caption: "I hope you contract streptococcal meningitis."
lol check out the first 45 seconds or so of this interview with John Lennon and Yoko Ono... he totally makes an ILE sort of joke/faux pas/awkward moment about Yoko breaking up the band :)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rosgATGkP_s[/youtube]
I am going to say that Dick is ENFp and Janis is an Se valuing type (if my understanding of Se is correct).
::Edit::
first, you have to remember that Janis Joplin was on drugs. But looking at her mannerisms, and how she speaks, compare it with my experience, I would have to say ISFj.
Janis is ISFp for me.
I actually thought that at first too... there's a honest fun simplicity to her that I identify with. She also seems very at ease and :Fe: inducing around Cavvett. I could also accept ENFp too though.
she doesn't seem especially high to me in that first one... the second one though, she's giving off visible "high" or "drunk" waves IMO.
Type them:
Janis Joplin, Gloria Swanson and Dick Cavett (fragments from 13:30-21:00 and 25:00-29:24 should suffice, so around 12 mins)
I'm not posting pics on purpose. This video interaction is quite telling imo. What do you guys think?
http://youtu.be/vlqAsesmLQ0?t=13m30s
Ok, let's get this thread moving. :)
My ideas are: Janis ILE>IEE 7w? sx/so, Gloria EIE? 3w4 not sx-last, Dick EIE-Ni 3w? sp/so.
Tell me if I'm right/wrong and why... or just plain write what your opinions are?
Lazies just watch the bit from 25:00 to 29:24. ;)
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and @ anyone who feels like sharing their opinion :)
I read "Going Down with Janis" like ten years ago. It was written by her girlfriend, so I will have to refresh my memory. I have a feeling she was probably Beta sx/so and her parents were Delta. I used to feel sad for her. I started collecting books on her during one of my "I should have been born in a different time frame" phases of my life. I read mostly about JIm, Pamela De Barres, and Janis then. I have more books than I should about certain famous people of the 60s, ahem... hahah
The opening line of the book:
I remember something about her being so belligerent that Jim Morrison hit her in the head with a bottle or something like that. I will have to skim the book again and see what jumps out at me.Quote:
"I was stark naked, stoned out of my mind on Heroin and the girl lying between my legs giving me head was Janis Joplin." - Going Down With Janis by Peggy Casserta
Why do you think ILE>IEE for Joplin? Gloria is defiantly EIE I would agree with you.
@wacey I just think she's pretty clearly Fi-PoLR and it's just that she's so colourful and relatable in some way, very simple reasoning on my side here really. I just feel like I can get inside her head in a way when watching interviews. I can be wrong but it's just one of those things that were more of a vibe...
Oh and the stuff you wrote is interesting, I like learning what stands behind other people's typings :yup:
@Aylen she might be Beta, but which type then?
it's interesting info you posted. Doesn't exclude ILE imo though. It just sounds Fi-PoLR xLE 7w8 sx/so to me.
And given Janis did a ton of drugs her confrontation level was likely lowered.
But I can def be convinced she's another type - just which?
@Aylen :hug:
P. S. What type do you think Bill Murray is? There's sth similar in the way they VI to me...
I'll watch some more later, but on quick glance Janis Joplin seems 9w8 (7w8?), Cavett 3w4 and Swanson something tougher, gutsier, like 7w8 (she's not soft enough for heart triad).