How Betas perceive other quadras
Alpha: Betas tend to regard Alpha types as pleasant company, fun, creative, and generators of ideas, but too goofy and present-oriented, lacking focus and ambition, needing to be led.
Gamma: Betas tend to regard Gamma types as stand-offish and occasionally emotionally hostile, judgemental, and inclined to not seeing the "big picture" in political or work situations, a combination of political naivity and moral stiffness which may end up jeopardizing the Betas' goals. Socially boring, "can't take a joke", vindictive.
Delta: Betas tend to regard Delta types as noncommittal in their unwillingness to support goals decided in a group, lack of drive, and ethical self-righteousness. Rather than back group efforts that require vision and concentration of effort, Delta types prefer to just work on personal projects.
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Alpha: Betas tend to regard Alpha types as pleasant company, fun, creative, and generators of ideas, but too goofy and present-oriented, lacking focus and ambition, needing to be led.
Gamma: Betas tend to regard Gamma types as stand-offish and occasionally emotionally hostile, judgemental, and inclined to not seeing the "big picture" in political or work situations, a combination of political naivity and moral stiffness which may end up jeopardizing the Betas' goals. Socially boring, "can't take a joke", vindictive.
Delta: Betas tend to regard Delta types as noncommittal in their unwillingness to support goals decided in a group, lack of drive, and ethical self-righteousness. Rather than back group efforts that require vision and concentration of effort, Delta types prefer to just work on personal projects.
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Re: The Gammas: It depends on which members of the quadrant youre talking about. ENTJs and ISFPs are rather banal and humorless, in my opinon as an ENFJ, in work situations, but ESFPs and INTPs can be full of humor, sometimes inappropraite, that even makes me uncomfortable. Yes they do sometimes fail to see the bigger picture, but I think the ESFP & INTP are better and grasping it given the chance. I think ENTJs & ISFPS...I think ENTJ is scheeming because they're scared of hard work and in my experience the ISFP hords work and is a stuffy supervisor (and not good at it due to their informative & not administrative nature.
Re: Aplhas: I think the world is a better place with them in it. Their ideas make things happen, they are creative, interesting, cerebal, interesting and a pleasure to know. Periodically I do think there's a failure to act on their part, but that they are so competant that they are invaulable in all aspects of life. I think their playfulness, is sometimes frustrating, but ultimately a sign of wisdom & that they've got things under control.
Deltas: They are capable of getting huge amounts of work done & can be skilled at dealing with the public (particularly the extroverts). I appreciate what they do in my company & I appreciate aspects of them in the world, but I am generally uwilling to allow them to take the lead, because I know that in may cases if their position is not escalating to a raise or promotion, and maybe even if it is, that they have difficulty with new ideas, can have anti-social fits, will take off as much time as possible, and will try to get things moving in an automated manner in order to do as little work as possible.
Betas: My babies. I admire the Beta willingness to say thinks that are uncomfortable to say, to address problems, to prevent problems from escalating and to really fucking drive it home when it comes to getting something done. They are lacking in the extreme intelligence of the Alphas, they are not as adept at obtaining resources as the Gammas, & they are not as preoccupied with group opinion as the Deltas. All traits which probably have vaule in and of themselves.
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They (Betas) are lacking in the extreme intelligence of the Alphas,
Intelligence has nothing to do with type.
You know I thihk that socionics outlines the fact that there are different kinds of intelligence. And I think type certainly does play into intelligence.
I knew an ESTP that was very interested in computers and was very smart about them, despite his drug and alcohol use. I sort of think that since he's so close in the scheme of thing to Deltas that he's got some of the delta "borg," characteristics if you've ever heard the breakdown of types.
I absolutely think that type determines what kind of intelligence we are likely to have. That's my intuitive opinion and im certainly entitled to it...Thankfully I"m not saying that people with brown eyes are smart and blue eyes are dumb in the fashion of that social experiement they do. This isn't about something shallow like racial issues and its not even socioeconomic, because I've known people who dont come from financial wealth at all who I still consider extremely bright and in my opnion it can be and is traced back to temprament (especially in terms of what type of intelligence they've got).
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Originally Posted by Herzy
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Originally Posted by lefty
They (Betas) are lacking in the extreme intelligence of the Alphas,
Intelligence has nothing to do with type.
You know I thihk that socionics outlines the fact that there are different kinds of intelligence. And I think type certainly does play into intelligence.
I knew an ESTP that was very interested in computers and was very smart about them, despite his drug and alcohol use. I sort of think that since he's so close in the scheme of thing to Deltas that he's got some of the delta "borg," characteristics if you've ever heard the breakdown of types.
have you been reading lewis stern's pseudo-information?
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have you been reading lewis stern's pseudo-information?[/quote]
no ive been reading my own intutions. which is sort of the origin for all ideas anyway (intuition itself, that is.)
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