• Dostoyevsky, Female portrait, INFj by Beskova

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    Dostoyevsky, Female portrait, INFj by Beskova

    Quiet, affable, even gentle - such characteristics come to mind when the discussion turns to girls and women of INFj type. Their faces most often feature wide cheek-bones, an elegant chin, and iridescent eyes. Some of them continue looking youthful even as they age. Their look is usually warm, gentle, and compassionate. Unimposing, friendly smile frequently appears and lingers on their faces. This girl is always considerate, always ready to listen to others and to support them, and if needed to give repose and comfort and a breath of hope.

    Women and girls of this type are very feminine or girly - they are tactful, modest, and even a bit shy. But this doesn't imply that they lack character and are push-overs. This is completely not the case. Characteristic for them is an unobtrusive, sensitive, yet determined and stoic manner to meet all the adversity and blows of fate.

    EIIs may look fragile or loose in their body, and are sometimes a bit stoop-shouldered. They tend to dress modestly and conventionally, not trying to attract particular attention to the way they look. With age, they start to favor dark and discreet hues in clothing.

    School life allows them from their childhood years to cultivate diligence and accordance in themselves. These are quiet, assiduous girls, who do not argue with the teachers. Even if they receive an unfair grade, they do not protest, but explain such situations to themselves somehow so that the authority of teacher does not suffer.

    In the class this girl, as a rule, has a few best friends, with whom she stands during breaks near a wall and with a quiet voice and with merit she discusses all the events of school life. She does not love to gossip, and tries to evaluate everything objectively, so that there are no guilty or offended parties. This is one of the most considerate girls in the class.

    Humanitarian inclinations manifest very prominently in girls of this type. They excel at examining the events and troubles of the personal lives of the characters in literary works, which they have studied according to the class outline, and write some of the best essays in the class. Moreover, they read a lot outside of the assignments, write verses and prose, as a result of which their inner world becomes strongly romanticized. They are, in fact, some of the most dreamy girls in the class.

    While most female INFjs do not enjoy sports, they are frequently drawn to dance in their youth. This occupation corresponds to their romantic, lyricist nature. They frequently give preference to ballroom or classical dances.

    Representatives of this type almost always graduate and attend a university, since in the school they study well, frequently finishing it with high grades, and generally bestow on their teachers the most pleasant impressions with their excellent upbringing, by holding themselves with dignity and showing themselves in the best light, by their quiet voice, pleasant demeanor, and a good grasp of knowledge. It is best if this girl selects humanitarian subjects for her major.

    If you thought that girls of this type never enjoy themselves in social groups, then you are mistaken. But the group must be hers, where she is noted, where others love and value her. There this quiet flower will bloom in its entire splendor towards friendship, love, and good merriment. Understand that she will not appear in groups, where there is cursing and misuse of alcohol. She harbors very high standards for those surrounding her. The man, about whom she dreams, must be reliable, proper, sensible and confident in himself.

    When a female INFj becomes your wife, know that in your home there lives a quiet angel. However, in her a feeling of duty is so developed that she will not shun house upkeep duties (cleaning, laundry cooking, and so on). Certainly, she does not love to cook - it is not in this that she sees her vocation. But she will never leave her relatives without food. And if somebody - one of the family members so picky that they want to eat only freshly prepared food, she will cook three times a day. This is in her nature.

    She also worries about the health of her relatives, and therefore, diligently writes into her notebook, not only culinary recipes, but also herbal recipes as well as names of most important medicines, which can prove useful for various illnesses.

    Not only the husband, but also the parents from both sides, and the children will be engulfed by her warm care and loving manner of relating. She will find time for all, look for occasions to provide her help, and provide affable words appropriate for their situation. She devotes a lot of time to taking care of children. Moreover, she does this with pleasure her entire life. She knows everything about the intricate workings of their souls, about the problems of their internal world. She monitors that they study and learn well. She attempts to develop their abilities and brings them up softly, but with persistence. However, she runs into trouble trying to make serious decisions, such as when it is necessary to decide which school the child will attend or which college to select for him or her. This trouble does not manifest only in relations to children, but in other areas of her life as well. Such that it is best if others undertake such decisions for her. If you are her husband take responsibility for making major decisions in development of your family and she will with pleasure obey you.

    From real life of INFj female: "When I read E. Berne's 'Games That People Play,' I thought: which story corresponds the most to my childhood? And I remembered that when I was small, my favorite fairy tale was about the princess who never had to do anything, because by magic everything around her was automatically done. I dream precisely about this, that someone would come and do everything that is necessary, so that entire life I wouldn't have to do anything."

    Incidentally, this quiet, warm woman makes for one of the most obedient wives. She loves her family with even warming love. But watch that her emotional resources aren't spent on her girlfriends, who inadvertently will use your wife as a psychotherapist. She will never refuse them herself, of course. Out of compassion. Therefore, it will be best if you take the matter into your own hands and limit the flow of those desiring to obtain psychotherapeutic sessions and useful advice from her.

    Women of this type are well suited for any job. They are friendly and dutiful, never quarrel nor ask much for themselves, hoping that they will sooner or later be noted and rewarded. They also consciously avoid participating in intrigues, spreading rumors and talking about someone behind their back.

    They make for good teachers, editors, correctors, librarians, psychologists. They are good everywhere where it is necessary to have patience and compassion for people. They can work even as engineers, but often this kind of work does not bring them much satisfaction. However, due to their inherent stoicism, they often will not complain about this.

    See also:
    Wikisocion - EII profiles
    EII observations
    EII in pictures
    Type examples in videos
    Socionics Type Tests
    Typing Questionnaire
    (including photos and/or a video in your questionnaire thread tends to increase the number of replies and accurate typings)

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    Comments 34 Comments
    1. Beautiful sky's Avatar
      Beautiful sky -
      I love this. It describes me so well.
    1. Cuddly McFluffles's Avatar
      Cuddly McFluffles -
      I didn't get very far into this before wanting to vomit. As if EII women have to be quiet, well-behaved, demure, and dedicated to housework... oh, and also obedient, apparently.

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      *finishes the article*

      *quietly sets down her keyboard and goes to unearth her flamethrower*
    1. willekeurig's Avatar
      willekeurig -
      Lol, even the SLE description fits me better

      http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...STp-by-Beskova
    1. Absurd's Avatar
      Absurd -
      What is at fault, then?

      I fit the EII description very well

      Maritsa, you know what to do.
    1. Beautiful sky's Avatar
      Beautiful sky -
      Quote Originally Posted by Ryene Astraelis View Post
      I didn't get very far into this before wanting to vomit. As if EII women have to be quiet, well-behaved, demure, and dedicated to housework... oh, and also obedient, apparently.

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      *finishes the article*

      *quietly sets down her keyboard and goes to unearth her flamethrower*
      we are....very obedient
    1. Korpsy Knievel's Avatar
      Korpsy Knievel -
      Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa Darmandzhyan View Post
      we are....very obedient
      http://bit.ly/SojNSN
    1. munenori2's Avatar
      munenori2 -
      Is this a cleaned up version of the male/female type descriptions on wikisocion? If so they did a good job making it read like actual English.
    1. Cuddly McFluffles's Avatar
      Cuddly McFluffles -
      Quote Originally Posted by k0rpsy View Post
      http://tinyurl.com/96e6zks

      Please, please tell me this is satire.
    1. Beautiful sky's Avatar
      Beautiful sky -
      Look at this very classic example, Maria Shriver for years was not ALLOWED to wear pants because Arnold wouldn't let her and she OBAYED very civilly.

      It's an example of not caring or emphasizing your own will so much so that you don't care about materialistic presentations nor do you influence others or want to necessarily do so. So, you let others influence your decisions with regards to certain aspects of your life.

      LSE are proud, authoritarian, controlling. So, you need to have a certain "mildness" not meekness to your approach; a certain calm and rational manner, so to say. We're very patient, calm (unlike SEE who are a bit more fun/funny upbeat and energetic) and so we can put up with a lot but we are human and we have limits too; cross that limit and you may never return. That's not being mean, it's being consistent and upfront.
    1. Korpsy Knievel's Avatar
      Korpsy Knievel -
      Nice to see all your obsessions appear together in one post.
    1. Absurd's Avatar
      Absurd -
      FDG is going to take care of all those obsessions. Pick me as well, FDG. Pick me. Pick me. Meow, meow, meow, cluck. Haha!
    1. Pa3s's Avatar
      Pa3s -
      Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa Darmandzhyan View Post
      Look at this very classic example, Maria Shriver for years was not ALLOWED to wear pants because Arnold wouldn't let her and she OBAYED very civilly.
      lol, if it's your goal to live in a asymmetric relationship and be treated like a dog by your husband, there are certainly enough assholes around who would love to assume this role. A halfway decent guy would not even think of not letting his wife wear pants.
    1. Absurd's Avatar
      Absurd -
      Quote Originally Posted by Pa3s View Post
      A halfway decent guy would not even think of not letting his wife wear pants.
      You got that right. Wearing any kind of clothing is just absurd.
    1. Pa3s's Avatar
      Pa3s -
      Sorry for the derail, but this is just too much...
      At the end of the FAQ, they adopted Asimov's Three Laws of Robotics and replaced "robot" with "wife" (and some others too). They included a reference at the end, but it's still ridiculous.

      Quote Originally Posted by Three Laws of Robotics View Post
      1. A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
      2. A robot must obey the orders given to it by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
      3. A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Laws.
      Quote Originally Posted by Three Rules View Post
      1. A wife may not injure her husband or, through inaction, allow her husband to come to harm or discomfort.
      2. A wife must obey and serve any orders given to her by her husband, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
      3. A wife must protect her own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.
      EDIT: Actually, they may took it directly from the novel in which the "perfect" wives are, indeed, robots. I didn't know the story. Now it sounds even more like a hoax, but idk.
    1. Absurd's Avatar
      Absurd -
      Quote Originally Posted by Pa3s View Post
      Sorry for the derail, but this is just too much...
      At the end of the FAQ, they adopted Asimov's Three Laws of Robotics and replaced "robot" with "wife" (and some others too). They included a reference at the end, but it's still ridiculous.
      Isn't that the guy whom I saw typed some Ti beast or something or at least some kind of alpha/beta in this respect? I can be wrong, though, didn't bother to run a check myself so I can't say for sure, but judging by his fantasies on robots and what he did answer to how did he become such expert in field of robotics, he answered, I quote:

      Alas, I am not an expert, and I never have been. I don't know how robots work in any but the vaguest way – For that matter, I don't know how a computer works in any but the vaguest way, either. I have never worked with either robots or computers, and I don't know any details about how robots or computers are currently being used in industry.
      And it is ridiculous. Hmm, anyway, thanks for reminding me. Im going to put my fangs into it.

      Aren't you technophilic yourself, Pa3s?
    1. Beautiful sky's Avatar
      Beautiful sky -
      Quote Originally Posted by Pa3s View Post
      lol, if it's your goal to live in a asymmetric relationship and be treated like a dog by your husband, there are certainly enough assholes around who would love to assume this role. A halfway decent guy would not even think of not letting his wife wear pants.
      I think you're missing the point. I think it's a cultural difference. In his time, understanding, culture, he preferred women who didn't wear pants. The LSE of NOW, would. This isn't about the pants, this is about specific requests that LSE make and how EII obey or give into them. This is about not pushing your own will against the LSE's requests. It's not about the pants, although any number of objects can change depending on the culture of the individual.
    1. Pa3s's Avatar
      Pa3s -
      Quote Originally Posted by Absurd View Post
      Isn't that the guy whom I saw typed some Ti beast or something or at least some kind of alpha/beta in this respect?
      He does seem to be Alpha, but I don't know. I never read any of his stories or anything about him personally.

      Quote Originally Posted by Absurd View Post
      Aren't you technophilic yourself, Pa3s?
      Certainly, but I'd still prefer a human wife to a robotic one.

      Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa Darmandzhyan View Post
      This is about not pushing your own will against the LSE's requests. It's not about the pants, although any number of objects can change depending on the culture of the individual.
      Well, I guess it's just a matter of what you expect from a relationship. If both people are okay with that, why not? It's a bit like the romance styles in socionics, since some people believe that they already represent unhealthy relationships (parent/child-like for caretaker/infantile or master/slave for aggressor/victim).
    1. Absurd's Avatar
      Absurd -
      Quote Originally Posted by Pa3s View Post
      He does seem to be Alpha, but I don't know. I never read any of his stories or anything about him personally.
      Neither, but I'm familiar with the name. He was the first to invent the term robotics.

      Certainly, but I'd still prefer a human wife to a robotic one.
      Allah be praised.
    1. Taknamay's Avatar
      Taknamay -
      If an archetypal male EII's wife demanded that he wear a skirt, would he obey?
    1. Radio's Avatar
      Radio -
      Quote Originally Posted by Pa3s View Post
      Sorry for the derail, but this is just too much...
      At the end of the FAQ, they adopted Asimov's Three Laws of Robotics and replaced "robot" with "wife" (and some others too). They included a reference at the end, but it's still ridiculous.
      hahahaha oh god

      oh wait, I just realized this is satire lol nvm