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Director Abbie
01-02-2010, 07:26 PM
E6 doesn't correspont to anything socionics-related; I've heard that any type can be an E6.
There's an odd number of enneagram types, which makes comparrisons unnecessarily complex and makes lining them up by twos impossible.
I don't know any E6s.

Eliminate the outlier. If you are an enneagram 6, you are either mistyped or a myth.

redbaron
01-02-2010, 07:34 PM
Nah, E6 exists. I'm married to one. :P

Director Abbie
01-02-2010, 07:39 PM
Nah, E6 exists. I'm married to one. :P

Is he a myth? Why is he an E6? Process of elimination?

redbaron
01-02-2010, 07:43 PM
Is he a myth?

hmmmmm. maybe!



Why is he an E6? Process of elimination?

no, definitely not. The E6 "sin" is anxiety/fear. They're very loyal, trustworthy, hardworking and responsible. Their fixation is trying to construct security for themselves so that they can handle their fears. That's what his entire life consists of.

Aiss
01-02-2010, 09:59 PM
One of the common opinions on this forum that surprised me was this "universality" of 6. I think any socionics type can be any Enneagram type, but 6 seems very specific, not at all "any other person". Maybe I see it so clearly because I've known at least two, including my mother.

I don't get this idea of unifying enneagram and socionics. Enneagram is influenced by nurture more than nature, while socionics is supposedly all nature, isn't it? Some correlation is obvious enough (i.e. most 5's being introverts), but it's more due to tendency to perceive events in a particular way than any direct relation.

Galen
01-02-2010, 10:20 PM
you can't get rid of me :(

But seriously, the only other thing I could be is 9, and I'm way too introspective/head-centered for that.



Although I do have green eyes. Myth?

Joy
01-03-2010, 05:47 AM
Nah, E6 exists. I'm married to one. :P

As am I. Kelly is also a pretty clear E6 imo.

And it's not process of elimination. From my perspective, E6's seem to define themselves by their relationships.

crazedrat
01-03-2010, 06:17 AM
trinity is as legitimate a basis for logical inference as duality. just hard to fathom the differences...

Wynch
01-03-2010, 06:27 AM
Or perhaps if you think about the fact that every E type has two wing combinations making there realistically 18 types in the enneagram you could find certain ideal pairings for each type. Perhaps nothing so exclusive as duality but certain pairings are more probable than others, I would guess.

Heck, if you wanted to you could say that the 6 types (6w5 and 6w7) are "universal" meaning that there are 16 enneagram types that match with 16 socionics types and two neutral enneagram types that could be universally applied. I don't actually believe that's true, but I guess if you wanted to take the time you might be able to prove something of the sort.

Director Abbie
01-04-2010, 09:48 PM
One of my best friends is an LSE 6. Whaddya think of them apples?

Apples? Apples are fine. I'm very prejudiced against apple juice.

Galen
01-05-2010, 12:10 AM
I'm very prejudiced against apple juice.
get out

electric sheep
01-05-2010, 01:19 AM
some enneagram 6 exemplars:
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c13/irwinfrde/nessy.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c13/irwinfrde/sasquatch01.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c13/irwinfrde/accidental-alien-sighting-in-parque.jpg

Ezra
01-05-2010, 01:18 PM
E6 doesn't correspont to anything socionics-related; I've heard that any type can be an E6.
There's an odd number of enneagram types, which makes comparrisons unnecessarily complex and makes lining them up by twos impossible.
I don't know any E6s.

Eliminate the outlier. If you are an enneagram 6, you are either mistyped or a myth.

You are so an LSI.

Galen
01-05-2010, 06:13 PM
You are so an LSI.
I'd like to think that she wasn't at all serious about what she said.

Director Abbie
01-05-2010, 08:47 PM
I'd like to think that she wasn't at all serious about what she said.

I was partially serious. I'm annoyed that I can't arrange enneagram in two straight lines and haven't experienced an E6 any more than I've experienced Santa Clause. So it would be personally convenient if they were a myth.

redbaron
01-05-2010, 08:50 PM
I was partially serious. I'm annoyed that I can't arrange enneagram in two straight lines and haven't experienced an E6 any more than I've experienced Santa Clause. So it would be personally convenient if they were a myth.

well you could go for ONE straight line. :lol: What about the circle thing? that's pretty orderly, don't you think? Plus 9 is equally divisible by 3. Doesn't that count for anything? :p

Director Abbie
01-05-2010, 08:54 PM
get out

Juicy Juice advertises 100% juice. Have you ever read the ingredients? The same goes for lots of other juices, especially exotic blends. Apple juice is a coniving sneak of a sweetener!

Juicy Juice Orange Tangerine Premium 100% Juice - Juice - reviews, ingredients and nutrition from Zeer.com (http://www.zeer.com/Food-Products/Juicy-Juice-Orange-Tangerine-Premium-100-percent-Juice/000020572)

Director Abbie
01-05-2010, 08:56 PM
well you could go for ONE straight line. :lol: What about the circle thing? that's pretty orderly, don't you think? Plus 9 is equally divisible by 3. Doesn't that count for anything? :p

That counts for something, but the circular chart is weird. There's the triangle, then that goofy shape with an open end. How'd they come up with that? What's wrong with using three triangles?

Joy
01-05-2010, 08:57 PM
I'd call it more of a filler than a sweetener.

Director Abbie
01-05-2010, 09:00 PM
I'd call it more of a filler than a sweetener.

That too. It's a cheap filler. And it gave my little brother 5 cavities. (It could have been because he didn't brush his teeth, but he's an avid apple juice drinker and I'd rather blame it on that.)

Absurd
01-05-2010, 09:01 PM
Does that mean the rest of Etypes are a myth ?

Galen
01-05-2010, 09:04 PM
I was partially serious. I'm annoyed that I can't arrange enneagram in two straight lines and haven't experienced an E6 any more than I've experienced Santa Clause. So it would be personally convenient if they were a myth.
You could arrange it on a 3x3 grid with instinct centers as one axis and object relations as the other.

FDG
01-05-2010, 09:05 PM
That counts for something, but the circular chart is weird. There's the triangle, then that goofy shape with an open end. How'd they come up with that? What's wrong with using three triangles?

With three triangles you can't rightfully connect types with their direction of integration/distintegration.

Director Abbie
01-05-2010, 09:07 PM
Does that mean the rest of Etypes are a myth ?
No. I can relate very much to 1w2 sp/sx, and I personally know examples of the other types.


You could arrange it on a 3x3 grid with instinct centers as one axis and object relations as the other.

Sounds like it'd work...what are instinct centers and object relations?

Galen
01-05-2010, 09:11 PM
Sounds like it'd work...what are instinct centers and object relations?
Oops I used "instinct" incorrectly, they're just referred to as centers.


Anywho, I'm not too good at enneagram stuff so I'd recommend reading about it here:
Centers: The Enneagram's Centres (http://www.fitzel.ca/enneagram/triads.html)
Object relations: The Enneagram & Object Relations (http://www.fitzel.ca/enneagram/ObjectRelns.html)

Director Abbie
01-05-2010, 09:11 PM
With three triangles you can't rightfully connect types with their direction of integration/distintegration.

I haven't paid much attention to that aspect of enneagram. It doesn't make much sense. Wings have to be right next to the type, but if I'm a healthy 1w2 I'll become a 7w4.

FDG
01-05-2010, 09:16 PM
I haven't paid much attention to that aspect of enneagram. It doesn't make much sense. Wings have to be right next to the type, but if I'm a healthy 1w2 I'll become a 7w4.

Yeah, it doesn't make sense if you consider evolution of the wing, but I think that they mean it with keeping wing fixed.

Director Abbie
01-05-2010, 09:18 PM
Yeah, it doesn't make sense if you consider evolution of the wing, but I think that they mean it with keeping wing fixed.

Would that make me become a 7w2 or a 7w8?


Oops I used "instinct" incorrectly, they're just referred to as centers.


Anywho, I'm not too good at enneagram stuff so I'd recommend reading about it here:
Centers: The Enneagram's Centres (http://www.fitzel.ca/enneagram/triads.html)
Object relations: The Enneagram & Object Relations (http://www.fitzel.ca/enneagram/ObjectRelns.html)

Thanks. Read the first one; reading the second.

jughead
01-06-2010, 01:50 AM
Fuck apple juice
naked juice is a supreme apple filler juice offender. Almost all the juices have apple as #1 ingredient. They are too sweet and have too much sugar of course.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=414TmP12WAU

Galen
01-06-2010, 03:15 AM
If dayjoborchestra stopped making so many food references he'd be fantastic.

More people should do what he does.

Aiss
01-06-2010, 01:15 PM
That counts for something, but the circular chart is weird. There's the triangle, then that goofy shape with an open end. How'd they come up with that? What's wrong with using three triangles?

The author of this article about Directional Theory (http://www.9types.com/writeup/Theory20.htm) seems to agree with you that three triangles would form a much neater pattern.

Director Abbie
01-06-2010, 09:19 PM
The author of this article about Directional Theory (http://www.9types.com/writeup/Theory20.htm) seems to agree with you that three triangles would form a much neater pattern.

:):thumbsup:

ArchonAlarion
01-11-2010, 06:13 AM
The descriptions of 6 are often poor

"A capricornish social person who clings desperately to authority figues."

Galen
01-11-2010, 06:16 AM
capricornish
I am almost certain that's not a word.

Also I'm an Aquarius what do I do

ArchonAlarion
01-11-2010, 06:44 AM
It is now.

I am actually a cappy, but w/e.

Vedic notwithstanding.

Lobo
01-27-2010, 04:47 AM
E6 doesn't correspont to anything socionics-related; I've heard that any type can be an E6.
There's an odd number of enneagram types, which makes comparrisons unnecessarily complex and makes lining them up by twos impossible.
I don't know any E6s.

Eliminate the outlier. If you are an enneagram 6, you are either mistyped or a myth.

Well, I think I'm a 6...

Director Abbie
01-27-2010, 07:13 PM
Well, I think I'm a 6...

I'm a 6, too...to an extent.

reckoner
03-03-2010, 09:10 AM
The descriptions of 6 are often poor

"A capricornish social person who clings desperately to authority figues."

Too funny. I am a Capricorn and most certainly a 6.

electric sheep
03-03-2010, 07:48 PM
I may be a 6...

yep, 6w7

electric sheep
03-04-2010, 12:27 AM
was it? Well I know it is, so :P

Every ESE I have known has either been either a 2, a 3w2, or 6w7. I thought I knew some 7s, but I may have been mistaken...

what's your instinctual thingy?

Director Abbie
03-04-2010, 05:36 PM
I can't remember... how do I know/find out?
Type Stackings - the enneagram ...info from the underground (http://www.ocean-moonshine.net/e142857369/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=42&MMN_position=80:80)