Originally Posted by bluehenrybob

of course...I believe this disorder to be temporary...and depends on the emotional place you're at in life.

Originally Posted by bluehenrybob

I see that I clearly have this disorder. probably to an extreme degree..

either way...
that explains why I can't find a good mate.
but can fuck a bunch of em and be fine.
too bad when I get attached...my emotions get BPD.

Originally Posted by Jarno

Borderline is known to be the most difficult PD to diagnose.

I know a girl who actually has been diagnosed with it. Some behaviours of her:
She sometimes call her ex boyfriend (a friend of mine) 50 times on 1 day. He never picks up his phone, but sees 50 unanswered calls on 1 day! If she talks about her ex, she talks about him as if he is a God. (=idealising partner). She has tried to commit suicide twice and has been hospitalized. THAT is borderline to an extreme degree.

Originally Posted by Jarno

Borderline is known to be the most difficult PD to diagnose.

I know a girl who actually has been diagnosed with it. Some behaviours of her:
She sometimes call her ex boyfriend (a friend of mine) 50 times on 1 day. He never picks up his phone, but sees 50 unanswered calls on 1 day! If she talks about her ex, she talks about him as if he is a God. (=idealising partner). She has tried to commit suicide twice and has been hospitalized. THAT is borderline to an extreme degree.

Originally Posted by Maritsa33

That is just a normal woman under a lot of emotional duress.

Originally Posted by Maritsa33

Yeah, because they can't get into the person's head so they ask the person a standard question, and if the person doesn't feel or know any better about what's really going on with themselves then they are most likely to answer yes, and then they are labled for things they are not. That is just a normal woman under a lot of emotional duress.

That girl is simply trying to get his attention; to voice her thoughts to an unresponsive man; if she had some support she would forget about him.

Originally Posted by tcaudilllg

Interesting question: should we allow BDP sufferers to hold political office?

Originally Posted by Jarno

I think it's better to judge people on their true efforts then on their estimated potential.

Originally Posted by tcaudilllg

It's not an estimate. Whether you can comprehend that or not, is ultimately irrelevant.

You know, that mention of potential... ouch man I think you're relying too much on your ideosyncratic Ne there.

Originally Posted by Jarno

so when I use the word potential I'm using my Ne?

Originally Posted by tcaudilllg

DUH.

Originally Posted by Jarno

You find this normal. I find it not. That's no problem but I think many of the disagreements on this forum are based on these different perspectives. I think I might open a new thread on this one...

Originally Posted by tcaudilllg

It's the same reason you prefer to use an idiosyncratic understanding to the one everyone else is likely to understand.

Originally Posted by Jarno

the problem is, a type can talk all he wants about potentials, still in his writing style his original type is visible.

I can talk all I want about relationships, and it still doesn't make me an Fi ego type.

We've tested it with rick once, he tried to use only Si but his sentences were still configured like every ENFp does.

So the hypothesis of 'every word is a different kind of information' likely has a core of truth in it, but when tested it just isn't quite working as expected...

Originally Posted by tcaudilllg

It depends on if the usage is original or borrowed. If borrowed (and it tends be pretty obvious when it is because it tends to be very general and unspecific) then it has no characteristics of the type who says it. However if original, it will always be flavored according to its position in the user's function order. Vital track functions, when used to produce original content, are idiosyncratic. Mental track functions, in contrast, are used to reference universals.

Originally Posted by Jarno

If I may guess I would say rather an unhealthy type of ESFJ / ESFP / ENFP

Originally Posted by Jarno

oh just for the record. Since this thread covers two different subjects...

Borderline = mood disorder
Multiple Personality disorder = different personalities in one person.

Originally Posted by VixenDogFox

I was once diagnosed with a "mild" form of Borderline Personality Disorder. I will say there is something wrong with me at a level I can usually suppress that has disturbed/disrupted my life through my adulthood a great deal. Anyway, I believe I am ESFj...

Originally Posted by oceanmoonshine two's description

Jealousy is a big issue for the sexual variant of type Two. When unhealthy, they can’t see how they push away the people from whom they most want love. It becomes a vicious cycle because the more they get rejected the more they push. Twos are usually very good at reading others' emotions and needs, but their blind spot (just like all the heart centered types) is not always being able to read how they are making others feel, especially in the present. The Two is past oriented; they have an emotional tally in their minds of all the good they have done in the past for others, but are blind to how they can make others feel at the moment. This is common to all unhealthy Twos, but is even more accentuated in the sexual variant because the underlying fear of both the enneatype and the sexual instinct are very similar.

This subtype loves attention. They give by shows of affection and by spending time with those they are focused on. They make themselves attractive to be lovable. They can be very flirtatious, and are very good at making the other person feel special. On the down side, if this attention is not reciprocated, they can become controlling and manipulative with their loved ones. When unhealthy, the sex/self-pres subtype can become volatile with their intimates. When healthier, the Two develops powers of introspection which helps them form truly healthy relationships.

Telling the difference between self-pres/sexual subtype and sexual/self-pres subtype can be very difficult with enneatype Two because type Two energy itself can mimic the energy of the sexual instinct. Therefore, a self-pres Two can still have many of the same issues as the sexual Two. The biggest difference will be in intensity. When unhealthy, the self-pres/sexual Two will adopt more of an air of entitlement as compared to the sexual/self-pres subtype. They will be less direct when it comes to expressing their needs. They expect their intimates to read their minds and do things for them to show their appreciation.