Pinocchio/Maritsa = same type? - Page 2

Absurd · 02-13-2010, 10:26 PM

Hello, I am Maritsa.

aixelsyd · 02-13-2010, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Coolanzon

You're retarded because I says so, hurrrr.

*retypes SLE*

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Originally Posted by Absurd

Hello, I am Maritsa.

Hi, martisa.

Absurd · 02-13-2010, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by aixelsyd

Hi, martisa.

We'll be in touch.

**Khola** · 02-14-2010, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Nik

True enough. I suppose to witness an ENTp put so much effort in proving someone wrong seems a bit too serious (another Reinin dichotomy) for this type. Reminiscent of EJ temperament. Perhaps it can be distilled to sub-type differences.

I have been saying this all along.

**Khola** · 02-14-2010, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Pinocchio

I think me and Maritsa should team together for the new SADVI method - Serious Arguments for Decisive Visual Identification.

Ok, I'll pay that.

**Subterranean** · 02-14-2010, 03:51 AM

Oh god no. Please don't keep explaining similarities and differences in behaviour in terms of subtype!

02-14-2010, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Nik

No. I'm not somavision. However, he is one of my favorite posters.

Actually, I'm using definitions/interpretations from wikisocion. Based on your online behaviour as a whole (not just in debate), I would evaluate you as resolute and serious. In any case, I've already qualified my sentiment about Reinin dichotomies in this thread. I have investigated Reinin. What makes makes this theory quite unreliable is in the definitions and interpretations of each set. It's like VI theories - one trait can have different interpretations. I've seen Roberto Bernigni VId as ENTp and INTp.

In any case, Pinocchio, I'm just putting my observations out there for discussion.

Just like somavision, thepenetrator and w/e else names he has, you're a fucking dick too.

cinq · 02-14-2010, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Subterranean

Oh god no. Please don't keep explaining similarities and differences in behaviour in terms of subtype!

Why is this a problem? I think the DCNH system has merit, although, I 've not explored it in depth. It would help explain some of the trouble spots I have with Model A, Reinin, and my personal observations.

Some people see themselves reflected neatly and immediately in one of the 16 types. For others, they struggle to find a fit, and move from one type to another 'trying them on' without success. One might argue it's because they don't understand the system. I don't think this is always the case. Theorists themselves have slightly different interpretations of each type. It's observed in type descriptions. I think a subtype system would help to explain environmental influences as well (family upbringing, cultural/ethnic differences etc).

Model A is an elegant system. I personally think there are elements that need improvement.

cinq · 02-14-2010, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Cyclops

Just like somavision, thepenetrator and w/e else names he has, you're a fucking dick too.

I'm not too fond of you either. So, it's settled.

Pied Piper · 02-14-2010, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyclops

Just like somavision, thepenetrator and w/e else names he has, you're a fucking dick too.

I disagree. The Penetrator rules, actually

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somavision · 03-15-2010, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Pinocchio

May I call you somavision?

So, somavision, you don't understand these dichotomies. The Resolute dichotomy has nothing to do with being resolute in debating, neither Serious deals with literal seriousness (whatever that means). Maybe you should investigate the respective elements, Serious is just valuing Te/Fi and Decisive is valuing Ni/Se, no other addition. Learn the basics of Socionics then come to talk ok?

I have just read this... not me.

Maritsa33 · 03-15-2010, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Nik

Having viewed posts from these two users over the last few weeks, I see quite a few similarities. Both seem relentlessly resolute in their perceptions and judgments, posting their views without providing substantive evidence.

Would you assess them as the same type? ENTp or INFj? Are ENTps and INFjs similar in their approach during debates? Are Pinocchio and Maritsa some other type?

He is ISTp, but very calm and measured one; he must really know himself and meditate.

Pied Piper · 03-15-2010, 01:54 AM

@somavision: ok.
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On the topic, Maritsa, I don't exclude we could be the same type, you are definitely an Ne Irrational, my second option for you after IEE is ILE. Nothing else I see possible, still between the two you seem to relate rather to Delta values - for example just the fact that you believe in a miraculous how-to in typing people make me think directly of a Serious type, who believe in methods rather than analysis.

Just thinking about the retyping of Rick, for example, and I can almost confidently exclude any Rational typing.

Maritsa33 · 03-15-2010, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Pinocchio

@somavision: ok.
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On the topic, Maritsa, I don't exclude we could be the same type, you are definitely an Ne Irrational, my second option for you after IEE is ILE. Nothing else I see possible, still between the two you seem to relate rather to Delta values - for example just the fact that you believe in a miraculous how-to in typing people make me think directly of a Serious type, who believe in methods rather than analysis.

Just thinking about the retyping of Rick, for example, and I can almost confidently exclude any Rational typing.

You just want me to be your dual don't you

Pied Piper · 03-15-2010, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Maritsa33

You just want me to be your dual don't you

That conclusion is based on the hypothesis that I might consider myself an SLI, which is not the case.

labcoat · 03-18-2010, 01:34 PM

I agree ENFp is a typing worthy of consideration.

02-13-2010, 10:26 PM	#21 (permalink)
Absurd Azazel Cult Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,047	Hello, I am Maritsa. __________________ Reductio ad Absurdum

03-15-2010, 01:54 AM	#33 (permalink)
Pied Piper Inexorable Tunes Join Date: May 2007 Location: Brain Sociotype: ILE Posts: 4,958	@somavision: ok. --- On the topic, Maritsa, I don't exclude we could be the same type, you are definitely an Ne Irrational, my second option for you after IEE is ILE. Nothing else I see possible, still between the two you seem to relate rather to Delta values - for example just the fact that you believe in a miraculous how-to in typing people make me think directly of a Serious type, who believe in methods rather than analysis. Just thinking about the retyping of Rick, for example, and I can almost confidently exclude any Rational typing. __________________ "No trifling! I can't wait, beside! ... With him I proved no bargain-driver, With you, don't think I'll bait a stiver! And folks who put me in a passion May find me pipe to another fashion."

03-18-2010, 01:34 PM	#36 (permalink)
labcoat retro stuffs Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,772	I agree ENFp is a typing worthy of consideration. __________________ INTj Objection! Oh by the way...

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02-14-2010, 03:51 AM	#26 (permalink)
Subterranean Socionics Knowledge Rank: 30/30: 'Expert' Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: I Transcend geographical boundaries and Time itself Posts: 7,641	Oh god no. Please don't keep explaining similarities and differences in behaviour in terms of subtype!