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    When you're trying to make a friend laugh, and they aren't responding, what goes through your mind?
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    That my joke wasn't funny enough.

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    Unless the person has a complicated emotional problem or something, then I don't usually feel like there is anything I can do about it and just leave it alone.

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    It's something like an algorithm:

    {observation} friend does not laugh

    {if} predicted - approach faulty
    - try a new approach
    -----------------------------------------
    {if} unpredicted - something wrong with situation
    -recheck situation, then:

    {if} situation appears normal (highly similar to situation experienced before)
    - hidden factor is in play, then:

    {conclusion} investigate further

    {if} friend is responding differently to things more than simply the joke
    - something wrong with friend, then:

    {probability .7} Ask "what's wrong?" or "something wrong?" (depending on tone of occasion

    {conclusion} Investigate further

    {probability .2} Ignore situation, leaving the problem to self-correct without inference; continue to act normal but avoid jokes

    {conclusion} unable to help situation; not worth worrying about

    {probability .1} ability to perceive information is off

    {conclusion} disregard observation; proceed as normal

    ... etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jxrtes View Post
    That my joke wasn't funny enough.
    Quote Originally Posted by jxrtes View Post
    Unless the person has a complicated emotional problem or something, then I don't usually feel like there is anything I can do about it and just leave it alone.
    Are these the only two options? Either you weren't being funny enough (and probably will try harder) or they have an emotional problem? What to you would be a clear signal to stop joking around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by electric sheep View Post
    Are these the only two options? Either you weren't being funny enough (and probably will try harder) or they have an emotional problem? What to you would be a clear signal to stop joking around.
    Oh, I'd stop joking right away if someone wasn't in the mood for it. I don't have the strongest understanding of subtle changes in the Fe atmosphere, but I hate intruding on people's boundaries and I'm usually aware if I'm doing something wrong.

    A lot of SxEs ime don't care, and I find that incredibly annoying. Probably the most repellant aspect in my relations with them.

    ETA: In the past I tried to weasel out of awkward situations by telling a series of increasingly lesser jokes. That way, I reasoned, I can save face while still making the other person feel better. I've stopped doing that though because it's gay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by electric sheep View Post
    When you're trying to make a friend laugh, and they aren't responding, what goes through your mind?
    'Shit...fuck I suck....hope they aren't offended.'

    Then test the waters by mocking my own failure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MatthewZ View Post
    </Ti-gasm>
    </not an ILE>
    Reminds me more of Ne. But Ne-LII or something, not that you can't be Ti-LII.

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    Quote Originally Posted by polikujm View Post
    Reminds me more of Ne. But Ne-LII or something, not that you can't be Ti-LII.
    This explains your self-typing.

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    Well it's more Ne with Ti. Not just Ne by itself, that's what I meant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MatthewZ View Post
    It's something like an algorithm:

    {observation} friend does not laugh

    {if} predicted - approach faulty
    - try a new approach
    -----------------------------------------
    {if} unpredicted - something wrong with situation
    -recheck situation, then:

    {if} situation appears normal (highly similar to situation experienced before)
    - hidden factor is in play, then:

    {conclusion} investigate further

    {if} friend is responding differently to things more than simply the joke
    - something wrong with friend, then:

    {probability .7} Ask "what's wrong?" or "something wrong?" (depending on tone of occasion

    {conclusion} Investigate further

    {probability .2} Ignore situation, leaving the problem to self-correct without inference; continue to act normal but avoid jokes

    {conclusion} unable to help situation; not worth worrying about

    {probability .1} ability to perceive information is off

    {conclusion} disregard observation; proceed as normal

    ... etc.

    </Ti-gasm>
    </not an ILE>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khola View Post
    Hot. If you can fix my computer as well I think I just found my dream guy.
    Well, that depends on what your problem is, but I can give it a shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MatthewZ View Post
    Well, that depends on what your problem is, but I can give it a shot.
    The hard drive running my OS needs replacing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by electric sheep View Post
    When you're trying to make a friend laugh, and they aren't responding, what goes through your mind?
    1) ILEs don't have friends

    2) "Wow, another person with an IQ under 90"
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1981slater View Post
    1) ILEs don't have friends

    2) "Wow, another person with an IQ under 90"
    Actually, people under 90 get aggressive with my jokes
    People between 90 and 140 tell me I am weird
    Those above 140 laugh
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1981slater View Post
    Actually, people under 90 get aggressive with my jokes
    People between 90 and 140 tell me I am weird
    Those above 140 laugh
    Thank god, I am under 30.

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    I smile at your jokes, what's my IQ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1981slater View Post
    Actually, people under 90 get aggressive with my jokes
    People between 90 and 140 tell me I am weird
    Those above 140 laugh
    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1981slater View Post
    Actually, people under 90 get aggressive with my jokes
    People between 90 and 140 tell me I am weird
    Those above 140 laugh
    Either you're narcissistic or hilarious. I'm either sadistic or amused.
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    I better laugh so I don't look stupid.

    ha hah ha ha ha... ha
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1981slater View Post
    Actually, people under 90 get aggressive with my jokes
    People between 90 and 140 tell me I am weird
    Those above 140 laugh
    You're weird as are your jokes, thus I laugh.

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    Yes.

    Ha. Ha ha ha. HAHAHAHAHAHA!

    MUAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
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    ^ gone off the deep end
    "Language is the Rubicon that divides man from beast."

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    The water's great

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khola View Post
    The water's great
    Now I feel like swimming. :-)
    "Language is the Rubicon that divides man from beast."

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    Making people laugh? I always thought making people squirm uncomfortably was what we did...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hkkmr View Post
    Making people laugh? I always thought making people squirm uncomfortably was what we did...
    Don't you have a hidden agenda?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1981slater View Post
    Don't you have a hidden agenda?
    Don't you have a sense of sarcasm? Anyways, who said is laughing?

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    if they don't laugh at my joke i figure they're boring and uptight.

    if the joke was bad, i think, doh, there i go again.

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    I usually don't try to make anyone laugh. It just happens on its own at random moments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hkkmr View Post
    Making people laugh? I always thought making people squirm uncomfortably was what we did...
    The only squirming I ever get is when I throw things at people for not applauding my excellence in the realm of humor.

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    I don't think too much about it...

    "No laugh? No biggie."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vero View Post
    'Shit...fuck I suck....hope they aren't offended.'

    Then test the waters by mocking my own failure.
    LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timeless View Post
    I don't think too much about it...

    "No laugh? No biggie."
    YES this is what you should do
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    Quote Originally Posted by pinkcanary View Post
    i think they think that maybe they shouldn't joke because it was some serious moment, like they think they might be acting inappropriately. ESFjs like to ask what you're thinking if you don't laugh, and then the proper way to respond is, it's all you baby, it's allllll you.
    Yeah ++! If it was a serious moment I'd stop and do what I mentioned earlier. But if the guy didn't laugh because he thought it wasn't funny, then it just wasn't funny and I'd change the topic or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinkcanary View Post
    i think they think that maybe they shouldn't joke because it was some serious moment, like they think they might be acting inappropriately. ESFjs like to ask what you're thinking if you don't laugh, and then the proper way to respond is, it's all you baby, it's allllll you.
    My best friend does this, in a funny way though...

    "What the fuck man! What are you thinking about?"


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