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    Default INFp/ENFj men: what's your opinion on being approached?

    I'm interested in knowing how Beta NF males feel about being approached by somebody that has interest in them romantically?

    Do you feel like it upsets your sense of manhood or do you appreciate it more?

    How do you handle it when a woman is very sexually aggressive towards you?

    Sorry if this is a duplicate thread.

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    What guy wouldn't wanna be approached though? Unless you're below average in looks or something...

    IEIs would probably love it. But then again sometimes it takes away the fun of the chase for the men out there... I guess it really depends on how HOT you are


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    Personally I love it. I love the attention, and I do not see it as an insult to my manhood as I hate the gender roles where the man is supposed to do all the work. It seems unnatural to have one party do all the work. Im actually kind of initiative taking myself, verabally and emotionally, but not when it comes to acquiring somone physically. Thats impossible for me to do, so i appreciate someone who can.

    Not that I would let the girl do all work for me, I would give probably more than I get as I naturally generous emotionally, just not good at "appraoching" members of the opposite sex, so when one appraoches me I am more than flattered.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarlettLux View Post
    I guess it really depends on how HOT you are
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    Haha... not just guys, same goes for girls too. We humans are so simple


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    Its pretty nice. That's kinda what ESTps do. They just grab you. I'm not gona resist.
    If they do resist its just fake, plow right through that bullshit.

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    And unwittingly, Crazedrat had unleashed the next epidemic of females raping men.
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    I absolutely adore those types of women!
    Seeing as I hate doing the approaching, it is very much appreciated, an ego boost, and a real turn on, but I have had my fair share of very sexually aggressive women who approach me that I am just not attracted to (physically), it then becomes this whole thing of getting rid of them, 'cause they see what they want and won't let go, and I'm not willing to tell them to just gtfo, so I often have to go into stealth mode! haha! but I 'spose I love the attention all the same

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarlettLux View Post
    What guy wouldn't wanna be approached though? Unless you're below average in looks or something...
    I'd rather not be approached even if you are good looking. Sort of steals half of the fun that way and puts you in a position to respond somehow .
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    Sice when did this thread become about rape?


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    Since victims were allowed to speak about their desires.

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    I'd love to be approached by a woman. I even like the idea of a woman raping me. I think guys are a bit different than women. Quit giving me a hard on.


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    I should qualify what I said with the following. She should at least hug me for a few minutes first, do some kissing too...

    I should also like her...

    And I think that I should be allowed some kind of escape hatch... in case I change my mind.



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    working with a handful of attractive females has given me a greater distaste for attention. please understand that the tie and dress shoes are just part of the act.

    I see fetishizing attention as making oneself prey to feel worthy of consumption -- "oh, but they're feeding me!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by strrrng View Post
    working with a handful of attractive females has given me a greater distaste for attention. please understand that the tie and dress shoes are just part of the act.

    I see fetishizing attention as making oneself prey to feel worthy of consumption -- "oh, but they're feeding me!"
    We all gotta get off somehow.

    If you're gonna have the whole sex/love transaction, you might as well couple a few more psychological reactions to the piece. Just things that needed to get done anyway, you understand.

    We all gotta get off somehow.


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    Not a rule, just a trend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hemoglobin View Post
    I'm interested in knowing how Beta NF males feel about being approached by somebody that has interest in them romantically?

    Do you feel like it upsets your sense of manhood or do you appreciate it more?

    How do you handle it when a woman is very sexually aggressive towards you?

    Sorry if this is a duplicate thread.
    I'll pass. I approach others. However, we're all human. Hormones and each of our own hidden depths' can do what they wish to us all, regardless of type. However, it is likely I to say hello first to most anyone. Likewise, it is I that is likely to purposely not say hello if I feel it is appropriate. It is definitely among the many things that enters my mind first when entering a social scenario. Then again, 7w6's are people whores, lol, whereas INFP and 7 do not exist. However, an INFp 2w3 could, which would be interesting. I have yet to find one in person, but I imagine that they would be both highly socially adept, if intelligent, and very foward, friendly for an introvert.

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    Everybody wants to be approached, but not chased down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reuben View Post
    Everybody wants to be approached, but not chased down.
    Exactly.

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    no, people want to be trailed through alleyways without seeing their stalker so they can scream in earnest during the assault. wanting to be approached is more of a base reaction, like a dog, something too easy to manipulate to give importance to. but I think people like to be chased if they don't feel like they're running; most males actually seem to run in circles around females, which makes sense in light of the geometry of the sexes, i.e. phallic overlap is a radial line rotating within the sphere of feminine energy, its center point constantly displaced to be pursued.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    A SLE told me that he can't stand aggressive girls who go out of their way to hit on him, even if they're hot. He says he views those kind of girls as trashy sluts or something. He also said that he hated girls that remind him of himself & that he needed a good girl to make him better & keep him out of trouble lol

    Actually, I've noticed that SLE females are kind of the same way. I remember Joy saying that she didn't like persistent guys who pursued her & that she preferred to do the chasing herself.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Saberstorm View Post
    I even like the idea of a woman raping me.
    I dont understand this. I dont want anything going up my ass, and even if I did im not sure id wanna be raped (and if I did it wouldnt be rape, would it?).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    How is it possible for a man to be raped by a woman? Seduced, maybe, but not raped; I wouldn't buy that for a second. I suppose she could somehow immobilize him & shove a broomstick up his ass.
    Brutal honesty: it could only be rape if the assailant is unattractive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Brutal honesty: it could only be rape if the assailant is unattractive.
    Alright, I click beta quadra and I see rape. All is fine.

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    Are you saying a woman who is raped never has an orgasm?
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
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    Men are fucking ridiculous btw. We are so goofy and we just can't fucking help ourselves, it must be quite the satirical chore to love us. It's sad, you'd think with all the wonders of evolution we would have worked rape out of our systems...but no...

    At least we throw the really silly ones in jail these days. Really though all men should be locked up; if intent to murder is a crime, then we should all be doing time on a fucking schedule
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    How is it possible for a man to be raped by a woman? Seduced, maybe, but not raped; I wouldn't buy that for a second. I suppose she could somehow immobilize him & shove a broomstick up his ass.
    why do I find that kinda hot?

    I'd like just everything about a girl forcing herself on me and having her way with me, and I kinda like being pinned down for some reason (though I would hope this wouldn't involve a broomstick; if that was to occur though, at least not a wooden one that's prone to splintering)...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    How is it possible for a man to be raped by a woman? Seduced, maybe, but not raped; I wouldn't buy that for a second. I suppose she could somehow immobilize him & shove a broomstick up his ass.
    She could force-feed him viagra or cialis, for example. Mind you I generally agree with you, but I think it may happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    How is it possible for a man to be raped by a woman? Seduced, maybe, but not raped; I wouldn't buy that for a second. I suppose she could somehow immobilize him & shove a broomstick up his ass.
    You realise you're basically implying men will never ever not want sex no matter the circumstances?
    How fucking degrading it is of you to reduce half the world population to a single reaction, and to imply that an inbuilt biological reaction will always be superior to their feelings and inner life.

    Please at least skim this link which talks about common myths such as "Adult men cannot be sexually assaulted by women." (4th one down) and "Getting an erection or ejaculation during sexual assault means you "really wanted it" or consented to it." (7th down).

    And by the way it reads like you're implying having a broomstick shoved up your ass is somehow mitigated by the gender of the person shoving it in. The anus will tear and bleed in the same way no matter the people involved and the same contigent feelings of violation and related anger, fear, helplessness, humiliation etc. will be invoked no matter the sex of those involved. Would you even think of implying that if the person being assaulted was female? Are men supposed to be fucking superheros or something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    Blah, blah, blah, chill out. All I'm saying is that a man has to at least have an erection in order to have sexual intercourse with a woman. How can a woman rape a man if he's not aroused? I was being creative with the broomstick idea.
    That is not all that you were saying, given the wording. Rape is partly defined by its emotional consequences, so assimilating it to being seduced (something less damaging and usually pleasurable) is dismissive.
    Also, non-consensual sex acts in general count as assault, so being forced to give head at gun-point would count for eg.

    However if that really is all that you meant to convey, then refer to the part about how erections can be forced.

    You say the broomstick bit was creative. Okay. I say I saw it after the bit about not buying female-on-male rape and wasn't inclined to call it creative or witty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    Oh & I'm aware of how ignorant I sound in this thread lol. I can afford to be, though. Try being a woman for a day. Creepers everywhere.
    My idealism says "what about being better than the creepers," but I can see where you're coming from. I live somewhere with very little of that kind of casual harrassement on the streets so it didn't come to mind as a cause.

    I'm female ftr.

    Aaah, I feel like telling you what to think and do now. Like adding a disclaimer to such posts or something.
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    How a woman rapes a man: the same way a man rapes another man: up the ass. Think strap- ons.

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    ....Or they can rape their dick.

    If a girl somehow forced me to have sex with her without my consent, obviously...thats rape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    Blah, blah, blah, chill out. All I'm saying is that a man has to at least have an erection in order to have sexual intercourse with a woman. How can a woman rape a man if he's not aroused? I was being creative with the broomstick idea.
    Do you have a penis? Do you know what its like to have one? Obviously you lack imagination. Your statement is the same as how can a man rape a woman if her pussy is dry. It'll still happen, its rape.

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    Well there's physical arousal mixed with fear, even rape victims will .. not all but some of them feel guilty because they did enjoy it. There's obviously a psychological side to it. By the way I know 4 girls who've told me in confidence they've been molested by other girls at parties. That's way more common than girls like to mention, they really blame rape on men. Well yeah it's men more than women, but not quite as much as you'd like to dream.

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    ....No. Whatever.

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    Guns and knives and restrains. Physiology and mental effects of fear and shock. Group acts. Come on people, it's entirely possible.
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    Oh, ROHYPNOL and assorted drugs too obviously.

    May I suggest visualisation exercises?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agee View Post
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    lol, nice.

    Many people go to the gym these days, and "many" is not "all." And "many women can be overpowered" is not "all," and not "at any time."

    Also, don't underestimate fear and shock. Rapes aren't defined by how much you struggle.

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