Some people seem to "fit" into a socionics type really easily and other seem to fit more easily into an enneagram type. I'm just curious as to which system most people in this forum thinks describes them best.
My socionics type describes me best
My enneagram type describes me best
Which system describes you better--socionics or enneagram
Some people seem to "fit" into a socionics type really easily and other seem to fit more easily into an enneagram type. I'm just curious as to which system most people in this forum thinks describes them best.
IEI-Fe 4w3
I find it much easier to fit the socionics type. As an example, Stratievskaya's description of the LIE could well have been written with me in mind, to an even shocking degree. And there is no other type I could really be, according to my understanding of socionics.
For the enneagram type, it took me quite some time, and it's not as easy, and not so obvious.
, LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
Originally Posted by implied
Well not fully at least.
Johari Box"Alpha Quadra subforum. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious." ~Obi-Wan Kenobi
wasn't there a thread on precisely this recently?
my answer hasn't changed, but it's still a highly close call.
In a way, I guess both more or less equally. Despite arguments recently it's not very 5-ish, the so/sx stacking description over at the Ocean Moonshine site describes me perfectly, but then again my understanding of my Socionics type works also, so...neither one really sticks out more than the other I guess.
ILI (Indescribable Lovemaking Inc.)
5w4 so/sx
"IP temperament! Because today's concerns are tomorrow's indifferences!"
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I wish that Stratievskaya's description of the LII could have been written for me, but Russian Socionists seem too caught on the idea of the LII as being Robespierre and Jefferson authoritarians instead of Robespierre and Jefferson being the LII.
Johari Box"Alpha Quadra subforum. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious." ~Obi-Wan Kenobi
My enneagram type describes me much better than socionics.
"Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat."
--Theodore Roosevelt
"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover."
-- Mark Twain
"Man who stand on hill with mouth open will wait long time for roast duck to drop in."
-- Confucius
Fair enough.
Yet, I think it's more of a cultural issue. Russians (and French) tend to see Robespierre in a rather positive way, as an idealistic intellectual. The English-speaking world tends to see him as the author of the Terror.
Enneagram description fits almost like a glove for me.
lol
This is mainly a problem though in thesection that seems to have subtle flavor of
that seems...off putting. I am not sure, however, what other LIIs think about the description.
Johari Box"Alpha Quadra subforum. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious." ~Obi-Wan Kenobi
I'd say socionics. It affects so many more aspects of my behavior than my enneagram type, plus 9s are generally made out to be more "soft" than I see myself.
Socionics (and to some extent the Enneagram too) is far more subtle and general than people usually give it credit for. LII descriptions, on the other hand, are a poor-to-ok fit for me (the information element descriptions are much better). Come to think of it, my understanding of the 9 is mostly based on descriptions, so that's probably why.
Enneagram - by far.
Jason
Which type are you in the Enneagram then? I don't remember if you have stated that clearly.
"lol" because you think he's right or because you think he's wrong?
It's funny that someone thinks they're an ILE 8w7, but even funnier that someone thinks - and there is someone on this forum who actually does think this - that they're a 2w3 ILE.
Don't reply, Jason. You don't know what you're getting yourself into.
I reckon you're a Five with a Six wing.
same
lol because i think he's an excellent socionics benchmark.
IEI-Fe 4w3
I'd say that my enneagram type generates a lot less controversy, even though I personally think they (enneagram and socionics) describe me equally well. Socionics has a broader scope in terms of useability.
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Once I read Rick's IEE description, I thought: this is perfect. Until then, I had been somewhat uncertain. Now I'm pretty comfortable with my socionics type and how it describes me.
On enneagram, there are some descriptions of 3w4 and of sp/sx that I really connect to, but other descriptions of 3s that make me want to scream, or cry. Sometimes the descriptions of 3s seem wholly disconnected with reality and I feel so ashamed after reading them that somehow I'm not even as successful as my description is! Which is ridiculous. Not only do I feel I have to live up to a specific image, I feel that I don't even really live up to the description of my type sometimes.
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3w4-1w2-5w4 sx/sp
i'd say enneagram probably describes you 100x better than IEE, from what rather minimal exposure you've given of yourself.
LOL
I'd say enneagram describes me better. Once you get past the descriptions, you begin to see the deeper rooted fixations that guide many behaviors.
4w3-5w6-8w7
I have no idea what my enneagram type is, but regardless of which it is, they must describe me so badly that I don't recognize myself.
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