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    Are you a trusting person by nature?

    Is being trusting [or hyper un-trusting] type-related?

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    In general, I tend to be trusting. I give others the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise. If someone betrays me or deceives me, its very difficult if not impossible to trust them again.

    Not sure how related to socionics type it is. I can see some enneagram correlations, with type 6 and 8 tending to be mistrusting and type 9 tending to be trusting, sometimes to the point of being naive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by warrior-librarian View Post
    Not sure how related to socionics type it is. I can see some enneagram correlations, with type 6 and 8 tending to be mistrusting and type 9 tending to be trusting, sometimes to the point of being naive.
    I fit the 9/Trusting mold.

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    Nope.

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    hard to answer this... I think that from the outside I could appear naive and trusting to a fault. in reality, I consider everybody as human, with faults and issues and self-delusions that make it so that you have to take everything that people say and do with a grain of salt. that doesn't make me see others as anything less though, so I treat all people as if they were the opposite and don't make an issue out of proving them otherwise or rubbing it in their face when the truth comes out.

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    I'm cautious. And it depends. Sometimes you know you can trust someone with SOME things, but not others. For example, if you're married to an E-6, you know they'll never cheat on you (well, that's a generalization but you know what I mean). So you trust them with members of the opposite sex. But that doesn't mean you can trust them to remember to put gas in the car or something. You might trust someone with the care of your children but not with your own feelings. I think you just have to know who you can trust, and for what. I don't know that I trust any one person with everything. In fact, I know I don't.

    Not sure if it's type-related or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    I'm cautious. And it depends. Sometimes you know you can trust someone with SOME things, but not others. For example, if you're married to an E-6, you know they'll never cheat on you (well, that's a generalization but you know what I mean). So you trust them with members of the opposite sex. But that doesn't mean you can trust them to remember to put gas in the car or something. You might trust someone with the care of your children but not with your own feelings. I think you just have to know who you can trust, and for what. I don't know that I trust any one person with everything. In fact, I know I don't.

    Not sure if it's type-related or not.

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    Superficially trusting, intimately not trusting. I'm generally overly trusting in day-to-day life and assume the best in people. Once that trust has been betrayed, it's gone. Where I think I'll be emotionally vulnerable, I'm not trusting at all, regardless of your reputation.
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    I am a very trusting person. The thought of being cheated on never crosses my mind. To me, if the person loves me they will be with me, if not then I can't force anyone to stay with me. I don't want to control others. I want to be wanted and not needed. With the same regard, I never give anyone the reason or to suspect to never trust me that I am and will be faithful in a relationship. I trust people even in the advice I give them, that when they don't follow them, that just means they were busy. But when a person says that they will pick me up at 7, they better be there on time.

    If the person has given me reason to not trust, I will have to decide if I want to be in that relationship or move on.
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    “I paint objects as I think them, not as I see them.” - Pablo Picasso

    Well said, Mr. Picasso. Well said.
    That's actually why he's a crappy artist, and his work isn't that good. An artist needs to paint as they see, not think. Most people don't do this, so true beauty is hard to find indeed.

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    I feel that I know what to expect of people. In most cases I default on trust, but I always consider that the trust could be misplaced. I'm rarely surprised when I find that someone couldn't be trusted. When I am surprised, I take that new factor into consideration in similar situations. As I get older, I find it harder to trust people.
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    Why not? I am trusting by Default.
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    I'm trusting as far as telling people my secrets (which I have very few of since I'm trusting.) I'm not trusting as far as trusting people to do things right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    I'm trusting as far as telling people my secrets (which I have very few of since I'm trusting.) I'm not trusting as far as trusting people to do things right.
    that's cause you're a 1.

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    I think of myself as a sphere. Levels one through five of myself are totally 100% super trusting. Levels six through eight are untrusting. Levels nine and ten are like NO. Also, this is the exact same pattern of openness/trustingness as Walt Whitman has, fyi. If you read Song of Myself and Calamus you can see the different levels of openness. He's 100% totally super infinitely open with this external persona "Rough Walt," and 100% totally super infinitely closed except for a pipe through which he passes poems with this persona that speaks the Calamus poems. It's interesting how really Whitman has as many separate speakers as Pessoa, except Pessoa kept all of his speakers separate and Whitman tends to intermix his.
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    must you always compare yourself to Walt Whitman?

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    Well, yes.

    Actually, not really, if it bothers you, but since I think about Walt Whitman a lot, and I think about myself a lot, I tend to find lots of similarities between the two. I think if you spend enough time with books you'll find a writer that you feel really similar to. And since that's such a useful tool for me, personally, to understand myself better, I sort of spew it everywhere else too.
    Not a rule, just a trend.

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    i start off trusting until i am proven wrong by small yet significant incidents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverchris9 View Post
    Well, yes.

    Actually, not really, if it bothers you, but since I think about Walt Whitman a lot, and I think about myself a lot, I tend to find lots of similarities between the two. I think if you spend enough time with books you'll find a writer that you feel really similar to. And since that's such a useful tool for me, personally, to understand myself better, I sort of spew it everywhere else too.
    You're a dick. Walt Whitman was a genius.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BulletsAndDoves View Post
    That's actually why he's a crappy artist, and his work isn't that good. An artist needs to paint as they see, not think. Most people don't do this, so true beauty is hard to find indeed.
    You paint what you think you see, even when you think you are painting what you see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Greeter View Post
    You paint what you think you see, even when you think you are painting what you see.
    Or you paint what you think you should see, in the case of someone paid to paint a portrait of a princess for a possible husband.

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    I'm trusting in the sense that it's really easy to get me to go along with something, but internally I'm almost insanely paranoid about what the person is up to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    I'm trusting in the sense that it's really easy to get me to go along with something, but internally I'm almost insanely paranoid about what the person is up to.
    I thought you were an E-6, Peter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    I thought you were an E-6, Peter.
    You thought wrong.

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    I'm both trusting an non-trusting. An ennegram 6 bundle of contradictions. But that's enneagram related for me, not socionics related.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    You thought wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    :wink:
    Shrug. You're a woman, so the odds of you thinking wrong were in my favor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    Shrug. You're a woman, so the odds of you thinking wrong were in my favor.
    don't be sexist. it's not because I'm a woman that they were in your favor. It's because I'm Te polr. lol
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    I used to be very trusting I tried to see the best in everyone until I got screwed over too many times now I don't really trust anyone.

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    There are a few people, like my sister, whom I trust to always keep their promises in everyday life. Things like being home at a certain time, paying back debts on time etc. Intimately I don't think I really trust anyone, I'm actually super paranoid about a lot of things. I'm pretty open about my privacy and can easily tell people some relatively personal things about myself, but I don't trust them to be loyal or "be there for me" or really care the least bit.
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    I am too trusting.
    I always assume people are being serious when they say something, so I guess I'm naive. I'm not always good at telling when someone is being sarcastic...because I take what they say at face value.
    And I would hide my face in you and you would hide your face in me, and nobody would ever see us any more.


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    Not really. I usually place my trust in people I know I can depend on, so I am a bit discerning when it comes to that. And I learned my lesson the hard way in real life.

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    Check this out. Same OP, almost exactly two years later.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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