Fighting, intimidating, Se, Si

[1981slater]

It seems Se and Si people are usually "stronger" than intuitives. Se are more violent than Si people, and the target of their violence (Se) is usually Ne egos. So, I have a few questions for you. They may look silly, but there are some rough hoods in my hometown, which has made me think about this issue.

1) Have you ever fought?
2) Have you ever suffer an aggression?
3) Have you ever being harassed?
4) Have you ever been "liked" by a very strong/aggressive/dangerous person?

My answers:

1) Yes, only with Se egos
2) Yes, only from Se egos
3) Yes, only by Se egos
4) Yes, only by Si egos

[Simon Ssmall]

My answers:

1) Not really.
2) Suffer an aggression? No idea what are you assking.
3) Yes, by stupid people.

[Simon Ssmall]

4) Yeh.

[Marie84]

I don't see as "violent" although it's used in the act of violence. I also don't know if types are always the victim of their (sometimes) aggressive tactics, often it's with other Se and even Si types, at least in my experience.

Anyways,

1) No
2) I'm with Ssmall, not sure what you mean by this
3) Yes
4) I think so

[Creepy-Cyclops]

I knew an INTj who would bully people at school, out of fear of being bullied himself more than anything.

But to answer your questions,

yes * 4

[1981slater]

Agression = punch, kick when you are not ready

[1981slater]

I don't see as "violent" although it's used in the act of violence.

I would never expect a gamma SF to be aggressive, just "demanding". Not even LSIs.

[leckysupport]

1)Not any proper violent fights, but non-violent fights are more common.
2)If you mean intense rage against some person, then once or twice.
3)Yes, hardly anyone is above harassment.
4)Yes, the last being a SEE.

[Marie84]

Agression = punch, kick when you are not ready

You mean act violently just sporadically? Like someone saying something offensive to you, and without thinking about it, you react by punching them in the face?
If so, no, I just tend to "freeze up" becoming utterly immobilized

I would never expect a gamma SF to be aggressive, just "demanding". Not even LSIs.

Gammas can be if you push them too much.
LSI's can be very aggressive, I actually find them more frightening than SLE's when they do

[Blaze]

yeah...the subject of bullying is a tough one for most people and you could be onto something slater. it's hard for me to remember that far back though. i am not sure of what types would be more prone to bullying/aggression. from an alpha perspective, prolly gamma...lol. i don't usually experience beta that way even though that's their reputation. maybe for deltas it would feel more like betas.

[1981slater]

yeah...the subject of bullying is a tough one for most people and you could be onto something slater. it's hard for me to remember that far back though. i am not sure of what types would be more prone to bullying/aggression. from an alpha perspective, prolly gamma...lol. i don't usually experience beta that way even though that's their reputation. maybe for deltas it would feel more like betas.

career harassment: beta, gamma

physical harassment (jers): beta

[Singu]

Well I've fought with my brothers, and both of them are Ne egos, so...

[07490]

When I was younger, I had some friends at school who weren't always very respectful. It probably goes without saying, but being under strong emotional pressure built the anger up, and then came one little sparkle that set fire to it all and made me explode. I still feel bad for the face/head punches, and thinking back, most of the situations weren't worth getting that fired up about, even if they were assholes. It mostly involved namecalling at close friends or me, being snickered at after a mistake, and getting stone-filled snowballs in the face even after telling them seriously to stop. Somehow, I always won fights.

Nowadays, I very rarely experience any real anger, neither in me nor in others, and it's much more civilized. I guess it's called growing up.

4) Both liked and disliked.

This reminds me exactly what happened to me in the seventh grade, at that time I started so much shit against a SLI. I was pretty much a "beef starting bully" and wasn't as tough as my talks were. He built all those tension up and took me by surprised, anyway I could say he won the fight at the end.

[Creepy-male]

1) Have you ever fought?
2) Have you ever suffer an aggression?
3) Have you ever being harassed?
4) Have you ever been "liked" by a very strong/aggressive/dangerous person?

1) Passive-aggressive "I'm not going to listen to you, and deflect you until you give up and go home". Apparently I've gotten into physical fights before, but I don't remember.
2) Yes. I've been physically attacked by a Se ego. Actually, a drunk EIE started getting really "hands-on" (pushing me and stuff) during more excited moments of our rambling conversation at a party. Kind of different. There was a kid at school who would rough me around too, not sure what his type was.
3) Often during primary school and early high school. Either outright antagonism, or people wanting to exploit my incredibly short fuse for their amusement. Very frequently by girls too (mainly at my dad's ski club), which I find amusing. Ultimate doormat powers!
4) My SLI was strangely non-leader-y*, actually. I guess because it was a purely emotional thing, being long-distance and all.

*Using Isha as my benchmark for Si dominance (lolpuns)

[sema sahin]

1. With my older sister...? Does that count...?
2. Uhh, I guess.
3. Me harassed or someone else...?
4. I guess

[FDG]

It seems Se and Si people are usually "stronger" than intuitives. Se are more violent than Si people, and the target of their violence (Se) is usually Ne egos. So, I have a few questions for you. They may look silly, but there are some rough hoods in my hometown, which has made me think about this issue.

1) Have you ever fought?
2) Have you ever suffer an aggression?
3) Have you ever being harassed?
4) Have you ever been "liked" by a very strong/aggressive/dangerous person?

My answers:

1) Yes, only with Se egos
2) Yes, only from Se egos
3) Yes, only by Se egos
4) Yes, only by Si egos

My answers would be similar to yours, except that the last one would be "both by Si and Se ego (ISTp and ESTp usually like me, for different reasons (ISTp mostly because they think I'm an ENTp)). I have mostly been bullied by ESFps whose authority I apparently didn't "recognize". ESTp bullies seem to leave me alone, somehow they think I might be dangerous. Well, once I did smash a bully's head on a piece of concrete and he almost fainted due to the sight of blood from his head, so perhaps it's kind of true. I remember as a small kid I was really "meek" but also really "impulsive". Like, perhaps I'd see a bully hitting another kid, and keep that in mind. When he'd come to me later, I'd be really shy at first, not replying to his taunts, then I'd smash his head on some piece of conrete all of a sudden.

[JRiddy]

Yes to all questions.

Usually I fought with my ESFj best friend growing up heh. I think violence was our way of telling each other that we cared.

When I was young in school I was kinda a loner, but I figured out how to use my size to intimidate "bullying" types for the most part. This was mostly out of necessity because I'm not really physically aggressive or intimidating by nature, but I just found acting that way useful at times.

[sarinana]

1) Yeah when I was very young.
2) Ah don't get this one.
3) Mhm in the past two years no....
4) I am not interested in such kind of people so naturally I don't care if they like me or not.

[Trevor]

1) Have you ever fought?
2) Have you ever suffer an aggression?
3) Have you ever being harassed?
4) Have you ever been "liked" by a very strong/aggressive/dangerous person?



1) Yes, with ENTp(win), ENTp(win), ISTp(win,draw) INFp(defeat), INFj(win) and with few more with no type. As you can see I have relatively good score. It is because I chose my fights and because I only fight when insane. EDIT: I obviously have a thing for Positivists.
2) Yes, from ISTj(smack in the face), ESTp(brick on head), ENTp(verbal aggression, though he did apologize later), ENFj(verbal aggression) and from few more with no type.
3) Yes, by ESTj(it wasn't physical, btw we were friends it's just that he was fucked up and annoyed by pretty much anything, including me).
4) Yes, she is ESTp.

[Trevor]

My answers would be similar to yours, except that the last one would be "both by Si and Se ego (ISTp and ESTp usually like me, for different reasons (ISTp mostly because they think I'm an ENTp)). I have mostly been bullied by ESFps whose authority I apparently didn't "recognize". ESTp bullies seem to leave me alone, somehow they think I might be dangerous. Well, once I did smash a bully's head on a piece of concrete and he almost fainted due to the sight of blood from his head, so perhaps it's kind of true. I remember as a small kid I was really "meek" but also really "impulsive". Like, perhaps I'd see a bully hitting another kid, and keep that in mind. When he'd come to me later, I'd be really shy at first, not replying to his taunts, then I'd smash his head on some piece of conrete all of a sudden.

[The Exception]

[QUOTE=1981slater;582161]
1) Have you ever fought?
2) Have you ever suffer an aggression?
3) Have you ever being harassed?
4) Have you ever been "liked" by a very strong/aggressive/dangerous person?

My answers:

1) Yes
2) Not sure how to answer this. I've had aggressive impulses from time to time which I keep well under control
3) Yes
4) Probably

[Waddlesworth]

1) Have you ever fought?
2) Have you ever suffer[ed] an aggression?
3) Have you ever being[Been?] harassed?
4) Have you ever been "liked" by a very strong/aggressive/dangerous person?

1)Yes(just once in a one-on-one bar fight).
2)Yes(and I tried my best to prevent fighting but felt[at the time] that it was the only option left)
3)A couple of times when I was a kid. I also harassed someone but never let it become violent.
4)I think so, but they use aggression in order to communicate their liking.


It is interesting that this was brought up because I noticed an unusual fear of being attacked come over me yesterday as I passed by some rough-looking strangers speaking a foreign language possibly directed at myself. I realized how vulnerable I am and how many threatening/dangerous people there really are in this world.

[jessica129]

1) Have you ever fought?
2) Have you ever suffer an aggression?
3) Have you ever being harassed?
4) Have you ever been "liked" by a very strong/aggressive/dangerous person?

1) Physically? No. I can't really even think of a time I got into a verbal 'fight' either. Just not my thing.
2)Yes, who hasn't?
3)Yes
4)No

[MysticSonic]

1. Yes.
2. More than a few times.
3. Yes.
4. Yes.

I can't say that the majority of the time these things occurred with Se ego, sans #4.

[1981slater]

My answers would be similar to yours, except that the last one would be "both by Si and Se ego (ISTp and ESTp usually like me, for different reasons (ISTp mostly because they think I'm an ENTp)). I have mostly been bullied by ESFps whose authority I apparently didn't "recognize". ESTp bullies seem to leave me alone, somehow they think I might be dangerous. Well, once I did smash a bully's head on a piece of concrete and he almost fainted due to the sight of blood from his head, so perhaps it's kind of true. I remember as a small kid I was really "meek" but also really "impulsive". Like, perhaps I'd see a bully hitting another kid, and keep that in mind. When he'd come to me later, I'd be really shy at first, not replying to his taunts, then I'd smash his head on some piece of conrete all of a sudden.

1) Have you ever fought?
2) Have you ever suffer an aggression?
3) Have you ever being harassed?
4) Have you ever been "liked" by a very strong/aggressive/dangerous person?



1) Yes, with ENTp(win), ENTp(win), ISTp(win,draw) INFp(defeat), INFj(win) and with few more with no type. As you can see I have relatively good score. It is because I chose my fights and because I only fight when insane.
2) Yes, from ISTj(smack in the face), ESTp(brick on head), ENTp(verbal aggression, though he did apologize later), ENFj(verbal aggression) and from few more with no type.
3) Yes, by ESTj(it wasn't physical, btw we were friends it's just that he was fucked up and annoyed by pretty much anything, including me).
4) Yes, she is ESTp.

Sikorsky Stallion

[Hot Scalding Gayser]

1) Have you ever fought?

Yeah.

2) Have you ever suffer an aggression?

What does this mean? Suffer an aggression???

3) Have you ever being harassed?

Yeah.

4) Have you ever been "liked" by a very strong/aggressive/dangerous person?

Yeah. All the time actually. =/

[1981slater]

... ESTp(brick on head)...

Tuturututu Bros

[Trevor]

Roflcopter........soi soi soi soi soi soi soi soi soi

[DirectorAbbie]

1) Have you ever fought?
2) Have you ever suffer an aggression?
3) Have you ever being harassed?
4) Have you ever been "liked" by a very strong/aggressive/dangerous person?

1. Verbally or for fun.
2. I'm not sure what you mean by that.
3. Minorly.
4. Maybe; I'm not entirely sure what you mean by that.

[The Exception]

Roflcopter........soi soi soi soi soi soi soi soi soi

[Rubicon]

1) Have you ever fought?
2) Have you ever suffer an aggression?
3) Have you ever being harassed?
4) Have you ever been "liked" by a very strong/aggressive/dangerous person?

1) for fun, with uh.. unidentifiable types
2) my EIE sister :-p
3) by two crazy (untypeable) guys
4) nope