lol I'm curious about it as well but i'm not bothered by it in the way i'm bothered by people using themselves as measuring stick for their type even in the face of massive discrepancies.Originally Posted by Tallmo
lol I'm curious about it as well but i'm not bothered by it in the way i'm bothered by people using themselves as measuring stick for their type even in the face of massive discrepancies.
I couldn't have put this any better.
Uh-oh. Just checked my pocket. I did find a skull in there.
ILE to ESI, from Ne-dominant to Ne-PoLR, looks like a turn into the opposite direction to me.
"And such they've known what happened with her hamster."
"Not to be", - have decided Chae, after having a bad day and no other living forms in her sight's range.
Animal cruelty?
No. The act of mercy. The hamster could not hold the existential crisis.
rofl
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"I will just settle on ENTj" + "I get crushes all the time, online and irl" = rofl
some people change their mind in face of evidence - other people are sol.
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So me and Chae are supposed to be the same type
Anyway, an extroverted type for me is ridiculous.
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So description that describes online EIE tells that Hamlet has the hardest time with typing
Hamlet (Ham, Hamka, EIE, ENFj) Always ready for an emotional discharge and a barrage of shocking behaviors and expressions. Dress up in an incredible combination of colors and styles of clothing, some things look as if they were found in garbage and washed. However, in any of their appearances there is always present, albeit hidden, and understandable only to the Hamlet - Meaning. Contrary to popular stereotype, they work everywhere and anywhere but the theater. The virtual space is inhabited by many Hamlets of both sexes, but they are typed as Hamlets very rarely. Remember - any type upon verification can be revealed to be a Hamlet. Furthermore, in presentation of this type Hamlets are so convincing, that it is difficult to understand who is who. The easiest way to recognize a Hamlet is by frequency with which he re-types himself. If a person is today Huxley tomorrow Dreiser, and the day after Zhukov, and if every time there are people who honestly believe in it, and, almost foaming at the mouth, try to prove the correctness of the latest typing - with 99% confidence we can say - before you is Hamlet. However, sometimes Hamlets choose their favorite type, and keep holding on to it with all their arms and legs. These Hamlets can be revealed only over time, with close personal interaction.
And if someone types himself into Hamlet, then, with 99% probability it can be said that this is a real Hamlet, just a resigned one, imbued with his or her own fate. For in socionics community this type is considered to be (and, in my opinion, quite unjustly) the very apex of socionics fall, and nobody, except resigned Hamlets, could be dragged or lured into it. Some of the socionic community, mainly consisting of their duals, Maxims, admire Hamlets for their incredibly beautiful, like a moon at a cemetery, dark, tragic pose of life, and for their ability to richly and with feeling re-tell the most prosaic events, such as - a trip for booze to the nearest store or arrival of package in mail, that the entire spectrum of emotions, from subtly allaying hopefulness to "please-stop-this-is-frightening", is readily available to the listener. As well as guaranteed non-interference in another's inner world, as Hamlets are so thoroughly and consistently taken by themselves and preoccupied by their own experiences, that no energy remains for them to try to delve into the soulful matters of others. Hamlets are not liked in socionics community for their cowardly rudeness, for their intrigues and scandalous nature, for their thoroughly ingrained habit to achieve what they want either through hysterics or through depicting themselves as dying swans, and then again with hysterics, and also that all their minute problems they inflate to catastrophes of universal proportions, and find in these disasters the cause for their endless pathos of suffering. Finally, Hamlets are categorically unable to take responsibility for anything happening in their lives onto their shoulders, there is always someone else to blame for everything. And, believe me, accusations and demonstrations in the manner of: "Look what you did to me and my life!" will be enough to last the perpetrator his whole existence.
On forums, Hamlets are usually interested in typing. Once typed, they try to maximize their correspondence to the supposed type. Those rare Hamlets who have already been typed into Hamlet, either with maniacal persistence move mass values of Beta quadra (quadra to which they belong), or with tragedy in every letter describe and discuss all their sorrows and troubles, such that after reading it for a long time the rasping sound of strained nerves will ring in your ears. Young male Hamlets often try to "glue" girls by their ability to feel deeply and strongly, and by their weary contemptuous views of this bitter hateful world. And in that, as a rule, they succeed.
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My idea of memebers types:
(I do not think I know your type better than you. It's just my subjective opinion, take it or leave it.)
Chae - SEE 7w8 sx/so
Sol - LSI 6w5 sp/so
applejacks - ESE 2w3 so/sx
Pink - ESI
Reverie - ESI
Aylen - 458 instead of 459
I should really consider this again at some point. That final number is hell since I can shift between those two triypes.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
If your type is Ni as you think, then only EIE fits. It's the main version now.
As I remember there were close versions in your typing threads.
Some your behavior may be close to introverted types because of higher anxiety, for example.
SEE for Chae has some chance too. IEE is more doubtful - too "wrong" for delta tastes
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My 2c. I think ILI-Ni is another possibility for maniac if she's not IEI-Ni. I don't think EIE or anything beyond IEI/ILI would make sense for her. imo.
I've always thought SEE to be a better fit for Chae than IEE, but that too seems an awkward fit.
she's emotional. F type. the only dichotomy I'm sure for her
> if she's not IEI-Ni
IEI I perceive differently. she's more strict
> I don't think EIE or anything beyond IEI/ILI would make sense for her
let's allow her to thinkshe's smart enough to understand her type sooner or later
one function of ego seems she's gotten already
Omfg maniac is not EIE. It's 100% obvious to any sane person that has seen her, that she is introverted.
Sol kept asking for video even while she had one up.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
... proceeds typing the whole forum
True. I'm too logical in this forum. And it drains me.Tallmo-seems introverted and logical to me. LSI. Fe seems like an after thought and forced. But it is the internet so...
My Fe is forced if it is used independently. Only under Si it gets natural.
The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.
(Jung on Si)
@Adam Strange - possible F. seems too sensitive
My aim is to find the truth, but not what seems as "obvious to any sane person".
I just like to ask videos.Sol kept asking for video even while she had one up.
She've changed the nick after my previous forum's visit. I've found this after some time.
Depends on what causes the anxiety.
Awaiting dissent from Chae.
People that are emotional expressive can't be T types? Are you serious?
Ti is the mobilizing function of SEI. You can use it but only the a certain extend.
Much to cover!
(^Cutting this gif into what wanted it to be was a Herculean task.)
ComingAwaiting dissent from Chae.
I can't make friends with that thought either!We're a bit like day and night.
I take it cuz I like it
What are Delta tastes?
Am hard to categorize, it's a good challenge for typologyDo go on.
Oh yes, I am very aware of that.
But in this environment I have to use Ti. I can't just go around being SiFe. I would never be able to say anything worth reading.
The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.
(Jung on Si)
yes! I realized a long time ago (like, as a teenager) that if I'm going to get anywhere I need to be able to articulate myself according to Ti norms
the problem is the ceiling on Ti and relative position is judged in light of the viewer, thus well executed norms may very well look like higher dimensionality to someone who is either lower or equivalent... true Ti egos can tell when they're dealing with feelers, because it goes to the source of their framework (which when there are no obvious rational defects it amounts to a qualitative difference they can sense), whereas fellow feelers sometimes have a tendency to label anyone more articulate than them as "thinking"
a lot of people identify feeling as irrationality + feeling (because that is the most obvious in comparison to rationality + thinking: especially irrational Fi egos compared to rational Ti egos--but there's all sort of nuance in the middle)
I'm about general anxiety. This may limit some activity and look closer to common introverts. Psyche supressing effect may to give depressive states also. If she takes supressing medicines - similar effect. Mind stays extraverted, - you see contradictions in surface behavior and it's harder to understand is it E or I, - such was when I tried to read impressions from her and stayed sure only in F dichotomy.
> Awaiting dissent from Chae.
Awaiting Chae's typing theme with a video-interview. She behaves strangely for IEEs, they are softer.
> People that are emotional expressive can't be T types? Are you serious?
It has low probability that T type is emotional in such degree, and meanwhile lesser accurately thinking in her degree.
t r i p l e a s s e r t i v e
Then I am like this: Here's the interview!
I think the awkwardness of the fit I'm perceiving even with SEE is due to you being an E3 and the manner in which you play with your projected image. The SEEs I've been closest to in real life were all 7s and 6s and they were very much "what you see is what you get" kind of people. You're not like that, and I think it's due to enneagram differences.Am hard to categorize, it's a good challenge for typology
Really? Do you prefer "the storm" inside your brain or outside of it?Am hard to categorize, it's a good challenge for typology
I wondered about it as well, also considering @Kim doesn't give me IEE vibes personally; her tritype is clear.
I agree, you are right. Why? Sadly my own experiences with anxiety in life.
You are not enough polite and more strict than delta NF should be in my perception. ENTP, ESFP, ENFJ, ... but strange for IEE. You behave too wrongly, not sweet enough. I may try to understand is it other type or due to non-types factors only with a video. I'm not typical LSE too, so much that often thought as LSI (even the girl ESI said I'm awful - she did not see me IRL, while on forum I'm often in logical "fighting mode"). So I doubt in your type, but can't exclude totally ENFP still.
This may be from emotional issues, not from a type. If you suffer seriously you may try medical help.
The natural cure for depressive states would be dual. You liked ESI men a lot, so taking into acount your F type - this may relate to EIE. But as LSI went to bottom - SEE/SEI variants have some chances. Also women types examples may be tried - which types you'd choose as best by test's criterion. You have a type like everyone, but non-types factors distort your behavior and create a mess in the try to fit you to common behavior of types.
praise for my role function is like an unexpected treat
Both!Really? Do you prefer "the storm" inside your brain or outside of it?
Aren't you the one who is the first to claim videos are needed to type? Well next time actually look at her video, so you won't be too confident calling a giraffe a mouse.@Adam Strange - possible F. seems too sensitive
My aim is to find the truth, but not what seems as "obvious to any sane person".
I just like to ask videos.
She've changed the nick after my previous forum's visit. I've found this after some time.
@Tallmo
you forgot about when I was an IEE too!
ps. I swear I didn't notice I was changing typing as a mirror to Bert, lol.. this is interesting.. and yeah well, my last ESI type is a bit of a mock for someone in here.
@Sol
I was ENFP and INTP in MBTI too... (which means Ne). I'm just INFP to you because you don't like me. I am EII in most socionics tests, on most days up to today. Everytime someone says I'm something else I enter a state of self-doubt and start taking all sorts of test, funny enough, when I do tests in that state, I score as the type people assigned me. And the next day I get back at EII.
Last note, socionics ain't based on your personal impressions. Luckily.
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