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    I am posting a few photos here, but pretty certain of my main type. I do wonder what those of you who are into subtypes think mine could be. I tried to find a variety of looks/expressions to show I these photos. The only other people in them are my mom and dad.

    Thanks!

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    Fi. But you look more like Delta NF.
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    @Crystal, interesting. I was raised by Deltas so that could have something to do with it. My parents are LSE (dad) and SLI (mom) and our relations are very consistent with my being ESI (in addition to testing ESI and stuff). If I'm Delta then I'm a monkey's uncle.

    Edit: Kind of funny - I'm looking at these photos and I realize I didn't choose uncomplimentary ones really. But in a LOT of pictures people catch me giving bitchy looks that I don't even realize I'm giving, which can be embarrassing. That is kind of an ESI thing I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrsTortilla View Post
    But in a LOT of pictures people catch me giving bitchy looks that I don't even realize I'm giving, which can be embarrassing. That is kind of an ESI thing I think.
    Lol true. My Fi-ESI friend almost everyday a stranger tell her that her stare is deadly. Even though she's the nicest person you can find but haha her stare! Many people think she hates them because of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daisy View Post
    Lol true. My Fi-ESI friend almost everyday a stranger tell her that her stare is deadly. Even though she's the nicest person you can find but haha her stare! Many people think she hates them because of it.
    This is so funny. In my 20's I was reintroduced to some people who were in my high school (friends of a cousin of mine) and a couple of them remembered me although I did not remember them. They told me they would try to say hi and I would just give them dirty looks. I had no idea I did this... they described it as a "I hate you and I'm better than you" look. I definitely felt like an outsider in high school for multiple reasons...

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    Lol. That is definitely more the Fi sub-type than the Se sub-type.

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    I don't know if these pictures from when I was really young look more ESI. I couldn't find many really mean scowl pictures, maybe because I feel compelled to delete them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrsTortilla View Post
    This is so funny. In my 20's I was reintroduced to some people who were in my high school (friends of a cousin of mine) and a couple of them remembered me although I did not remember them. They told me they would try to say hi and I would just give them dirty looks. I had no idea I did this... they described it as a "I hate you and I'm better than you" look. I definitely felt like an outsider in high school for multiple reasons...
    You sound exactly like my friend haha. In highschool like almost all students didn't approach her, except me and another friend. I had friends coming and telling me that she (ESI) hates them, then I try to correct the impression she left, then they start talking to her and everything go well. Now we seperated and she's in college, she's telling me that the exact same thing is happening lol. And yep some also called her arrogant.

    She's greatly misunderstood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daisy View Post
    She's greatly misunderstood.
    My life story right there (said only partially facetiously).

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    The second pic looks a lot like an ESI-Fi whom I know.

    She's no longer speaking to me, incidentally. I must have greatly misunderstood her in some important way. Lol.


    *EDIT*

    Full disclosure: She cut off contact when I wouldn't agree to room with her.
    Seems drastic to me, but maybe not to an Fi-dom.
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    Honestl yalpha SF seems more likely than gamma

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    I’ve ruled out Alpha personally. My ESFj mother-in-law and I are extinguishers, and I’m way too agressive/combative to be an ISFp.

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    Fi subtype.

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    My bet is on dynamic subtype

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troll Nr 007 View Post
    My bet is on dynamic subtype

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    I’m not too familiar with Reinin traits but does the above mean you think I’m ILI or LIE?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrsTortilla View Post
    I’m not too familiar with Reinin traits but does the above mean you think I’m ILI or LIE?
    No, I think he's referring to DCNH subtype theory.

    http://www.wikisocion.net/en/index.php?title=Dcnh

    "Dynamic subtype" would refer to the subtype the exhibits traits of either Ip or Ej temperament, Harmonizing or Dominant respectively.

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    Could be Dominant
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avebury View Post
    No, I think he's referring to DCNH subtype theory.

    http://www.wikisocion.net/en/index.php?title=Dcnh

    "Dynamic subtype" would refer to the subtype the exhibits traits of either Ip or Ej temperament, Harmonizing or Dominant respectively.
    Oh, okay, gotcha. Thanks for the clarification and the link.

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    by photos you may be ESI, indeed

    forget about heretic subtypes

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    Haha, what's wrong with subtypes?

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    @MrsTortilla

    You look subtype to me. You don't have the softness in the expression I associate with subtype. I also agree that you look Dominant in DCNH since that one can be easy to tell from people's eyes.

    Sorry about responding to this thread only now, everyone was saying subtype and I felt kinda awkward going against them, since they seemed so certain, but what the heck.


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    mixed subtype, harmonizing dcnh, enneagramm type 2

    you could also come across as ESE from your pics but I trust your self-typing.
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    Yea, I was also thinking mixed subtype maybe. I just don't see because that subtype has such a soft look in the eyes, they look SEI in their softness.

    Enneagram type 2 seems legit.

    There are more ESE 2s than ESI 2s so perhaps that is why she comes off as possibly ESE?

    I still say D>H though. H has a hostile look. (I'm H btw)

    Anyways, it's just my impression.

    The point of this thread was to find out your subtype, since there are contradictory opinions here, I'm not gonna debate your subtype like you were some experiment in a laboratory, just take what we say with a grain of salt and try to make sense of it yourself.

    Hope this helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aster View Post
    Wait, what's the mixed subtype? Would that just be ESI, then? Basically like saying no subtype? Sorry, but I've never heard it called that and was curious.
    Yeah, I usually say balanced subtype. I think everyone has a subtype, I don't believe in "no subtype" because that's like saying subtype doesn't exist.

    Basically, it means ESI-0. ESI-0 still has a subtype since it falls on a scale.

    I hope that makes sense.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Avebury View Post
    I still say D>H though. H has a hostile look. (I'm H btw)
    Like they look bit superior. People have taken lots of stuck up photos of me being like that. Probably looks bit intimidating and secretive from a distance. Then suddenly when it comes to closer contact follows along.
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    This is interesting to wake up to. ;-)

    I can post more photos with more expressions/angles if it’s useful but I posted three photos in the unofficial member’s photo thread. The thing is that I realize now most the photos I posted above were wedding/engagement pictures where I consciously tried or was actively encouraged to appear open and happy, etc (not that I’m never this way, just that it might not be the best natural representation of me).

    I agree that I don’t think I’m Harmonizing subtype - but my knowledge of DCNH subtypes is new and limited. In reading descriptions I would actually self-identify with Creative subtype and under a lot of stress/heavy responsibility I might act more like an N subtype. But again I know very little about this yet. Maybe “balanced” is right.

    Notes about the way I interact with ESE’s.

    I tend to be way more critical and negative and possibly less “nice” than ESE’s I meet.
    ESE’s annoy me considerably.
    ESE’s try to change me and are frankly confused by my disinterest in going along with what they think I should do.
    Sometimes I have taken pleasure in directly contradicting an ESE just because.
    ESE’s come across as very illogical (can sometimes seem dumb to me).
    i like certain ESE’s as actors. They seem really funny or charming when I don’t have to interact with them personally.

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    Comment on Enneagram type 2: I’ve always thought I was type 7w6 but now as a mother I’m maybe different. I recently took an Enneagram test and got type 2 which, frankly, made me mad!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrsTortilla View Post
    Comment on Enneagram type 2: I’ve always thought I was type 7w6 but now as a mother I’m maybe different. I recently took an Enneagram test and got type 2 which, frankly, made me mad!
    Why did it make you mad? It seems a pretty great enneagram type, positive-outlook, high energy, but still good at getting along with people...(much better than 7s).
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    Why did it make you mad? It seems a pretty great enneagram type, positive-outlook, high energy, but still good at getting along with people...(much better than 7s).
    When I first learned about personality type it was the Enneagram in the 1990's and I was a teenager. I quickly typed my mom as a 2 (she's probably more like a 1w2) along with typing a friend of hers as a 2, as well. Both of them seemed to do a lot for people and then feel resentful and bitter about it afterward, making it known to everyone like a martyr. It was really annoying behavior from my view at the time (even though now I understand that my mom did a tremendous amount of work for our family and got almost no appreciation for it, and was quite depressed about many other things, too). So I incorrectly defined type 2 as being "like that." Martyrdom, doing everything for people just to get praise. So I guess that's why I have negative feelings about type 2's, even though it is probably a perfectly great type to be, and martyrdom maybe only represents the unhealthy end of that spectrum.

    Full disclosure I took that recent Enneagram test twice just to disprove to myself I was a 2 and got 2, again. Haha...

    If I reflect on type 2's then I realize it's probably a good fit. I derive a LOT of pleasure from doing nice/special things for others. Second only to drawing and playing/writing music probably.

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    I have ideas about the type of your husband (5, 6 photos). You may also give him a dichotomy test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    I have ideas about the type of your husband (5, 6 photos). You may also give him a dichotomy test.
    What kinds of ideas?

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    @Sol, I believe pictures 5 and 6 are of her father.

    (He looks ILI to me, but MrsTortilla said SLI.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    @Sol, I believe pictures 5 and 6 are of her father.

    (He looks ILI to me, but MrsTortilla said SLI.)
    No he’s LSE actually. I’ll post a couple younger shots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrsTortilla View Post
    What kinds of ideas?
    LSI
    like my father

    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    He looks ILI to me, but MrsTortilla said SLI.
    He seems LSI or 2nd version SLE, what is close to her opinion if to type by dichotomies primarily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    LSI
    like my father

    He seems LSI or 2nd version SLE, what is close to her opinion if to type by dichotomies primarily.
    Interesting.

    So, I don't think LSI. My brother is LSI and this brother and my dad most likely have extinguishment relations. SLE is POSSIBLE but LSE is more likely since my mom is SLI...

    Some photos of my dad. EDIT: He has a bit of a Tommy Lee Jones vibe in person sometimes, sometimes Tom Selleck-ish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrsTortilla View Post
    So, I don't think LSI.
    he mb offered tests, types descriptions for additional arguments for LSI or LSE
    mb to show EII and EIE women among my bloggers to decide women (as a group) of which type makes him to feel more emotionally comfortable

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    he mb offered tests, types descriptions for additional arguments for LSI or LSE
    mb to show EII and EIE women among my bloggers to decide women (as a group) of which type makes him to feel more emotionally comfortable
    My dad isn't really aware of my interest in personality studies and he dislikes when he hears my mom and I analyzing people's physical traits, so I don't know that I'd want to approach this with him. Sorry! But my mom is a pretty clear SLI... I know my mom also teases him about thinking Tammy Wynette, the country singer, was really pretty years ago...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrsTortilla View Post
    My dad isn't really aware of my interest in personality studies and he dislikes when he hears my mom and I analyzing people's physical traits, so I don't know that I'd want to approach this with him. Sorry! But my mom is a pretty clear SLI... I know my mom also teases him about thinking Tammy Wynette, the country singer, was really pretty years ago...
    So I looked up a video of Tammy Wynette and found that she's running the same software as an EII woman I work with. Their similarity is unmistakable (despite radically different hair styles - Lol), and I've seen how she affects the married LSE we both work with. Which is to say, she's able to focus his attention on her like no other person I've ever seen before. His robotic and bluff nature refuses to allow him to say that he likes her, but it's pretty obvious that, had he met her before meeting his present wife, things might have turned out differently.

    Your mother is right to be a bit concerned.

    Regarding your father's dislike of psychological discussions, this seems to be very common among LSE's. I'm sure that, if asked, he'd attribute his attraction to the EII not to any psychological type matching, but rather to her extreme properness, her (perceived, to him) compliance, her traditional femininity, and her respect for and admiration of his intelligence.

    (Full disclosure: I like and admire her too, and we've gone out to lunch and dinner many times, but I'm not romantically interested in her. But to an LSE, she'd be deadly. I can tell that he wants to kill me when I ask her if she wants to go get lunch together. But dude, it's Just Lunch.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrsTortilla View Post
    My dad isn't really aware of my interest in personality studies and he dislikes when he hears my mom and I analyzing people's physical traits
    In case it's a misprint and you wanted to say "psychical" - that would be more expected from LSI but not from Ne valued types.
    Psychology is much about inner, hiden world of people - relates to Ne.
    He may to make a dichotomy test if you'll ask him, as this takes a few efforts and he see is important for you. My LSI father has made Gulenko's test, for example. To look briefly at 2 groups of bloggers to choose between also would not take many time, as it's duals/superego for LSE/LSI choice, close to opposite impressions. In this situation is mostly your decision. Our opinions are close about his type, but I feel in him other values than mine.

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