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    David Beckham (LSI) and Prince William (ESI). Picked these two bc 1) they have the same expression in this photo, so you can compare other things, 2) they're the same race, gender, etc. 3) they're both considered very good looking by a lot of people.
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    Oh no, poor LSIs are getting a bad name.

    Here's one beta Se creative, Eugenia Khirivskaya.
    She's even set as the exemplar on the Beskova profile. (If that means anything).


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    Lance Armstrong is ENFp. No idea what you mean by often displays Se-creative.

    Damn is VI controversial, I almost regret starting this.

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    VI is not controversial at all. You're just doing it wrong. #zing #hashtagsman #yolocatonthestairsgoingup #lol

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    Prince William is LSE. You can figure that out by the way that his wife responds to him and by the ebes and eves of her reaction in their relationship. It's very obvious that they are having a benefit relations and she's the benefactor. Using Jadae's perception of E/I of hands you can also see that he's an extravert in this picture of his hand:

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    Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
    Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
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    Quote Originally Posted by William View Post
    I know some people like to put Rihanna and Lady Gaga as ESI, but those are more controversial/debatable ESIs, so any pictures of them that get added to this thread should be viewed as examples of Se-creative with a grain of salt.
    Rihanna's clear-cut FiSe if there ever was one, although I don't feel like arguing about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by William View Post
    I thought Prince William was LSE.
    Y'know, I could actually see that.


    Quote Originally Posted by William View Post
    To add to the topic at least, I believe Lance Armstrong is LSI and often displays his Se-creative:
    By golly, I could see that, too!

    For the sake of comparison, here's Novak Djokovic (LSE):




    And here's Phil Robertson (LSI):


    The following text might be appropriate:
    Short descriptions of Hidden Agendas by Ganin

    ENTp, ESTp - to be loved
    INTj, INFj - to be healthy
    ESFj, ESTj - to be perfect
    ISFp, INFp - to understand
    ENFj, ENTj - to be wealthy
    ISTj, ISFj - to believe
    ESFp, ENFp - to know
    INTp, ISTp - to love

    Better yet, here's Willie Robertson (LSE):



    If I had to venture a guess, I'd say Novak is Te-LSE and Willie is Si-LSE.

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    Slightly less certain on this one, but I think Gareth Bale is also LSI:



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    Quote Originally Posted by blood moon View Post
    Damn is VI controversial, I almost regret starting this.
    it's controversial.

    b/c it's more subjective than the regular stuff (kinda hard to top, i know)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Clearly View Post
    Slightly less certain on this one, but I think Gareth Bale is also LSI:


    seems Se creative can give one monkey vibes

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    Are you fucking kidding me, Novak is LSE?? I'm sorry but I'm one of the few people on this forum who has followed tennis for years, not just googled him and made a half-assed guess on 2 3 images, and wait to see if any other self confident morons want to agree with me. And he is DEFINITELY FE. SO FE. FE EVERYWHERE. He even TOTALLY VIs LIKE AN EIE, EVEN THOUGH YOU JUST NEED TO WATCH ONE INTERVIEW TO BE DROWNED IN FE, EVEN IF YOU COULDN'T SEE HIS FACE.

    chatting up a ball boy, making the crowd love him.



    mimics other players, talk about a personality cult



    @ fucking @ChrisClearly

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    And stfu about duck dynasty, go jerk off to them in another forum.

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    lol@the typings in this thread........

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    Quote Originally Posted by blood moon View Post
    I'm sorry but I'm one of the few people on this forum who has followed tennis for years
    So have I.


    Quote Originally Posted by blood moon View Post
    And he is DEFINITELY FE. SO FE. FE EVERYWHERE.
    Apparently you don't know what Fe is.


    Quote Originally Posted by blood moon View Post
    He even TOTALLY VIs LIKE AN EIE
    lol, how fucking so?


    Quote Originally Posted by blood moon View Post
    chatting up a ball boy, making the crowd love him.
    That was his intention?


    Quote Originally Posted by blood moon View Post
    mimics other players, talk about a personality cult
    How does mimicking other players have anything to do with Fe? Please provide textual evidence, not your own warped interpretation.


    Quote Originally Posted by blood moon View Post
    And stfu about duck dynasty, go jerk off to them in another forum.
    This thread is about Se-creatives, and Phil Robertson is the quintessential LSI. I'm trying to contribute.

    Anyway, if we're talking about EIE tennis players, you needn't look further than Maria Sharapova. I might as well mention Rafael Nadal and Dominika Cibulkova as examples of SEE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Clearly
    anything to do with Fe? Please provide textual evidence, not your own warped interpretation.




    This thread is about Se-creatives, and Phil Robertson is the quintessential LSI. I'm trying to contribute.

    Anyway, if we're talking about EIE tennis players, you needn't look further than Maria Sharapova. I might as well mention Rafael Nadal and Dominika Cibulkova as examples of SEE.
    Novac seems LIE
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    Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
    Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa View Post
    Novac seems LIE
    How does he seem intuitive to you?

    This might be a bit of a stretch, but I think I can make a case for Djokovic being Si-ego. He made the following comments after his record-breaking match against Rafael Nadal in the 2012 Australian Open final:
    It was obvious on the court for everybody who has watched the match that both of us, physically, we took the last drop of energy that we had from our bodies.
    It's just incredible effort. You're in pain, you're suffer(ing). You're trying to activate your legs. You're going through so much suffering your toes are bleeding. Everything is just outrageous, but you're still enjoying that pain.
    Now, here is sociotype.com on Introverted Sensing:
    Introverted sensing is an irrational, introverted, and dynamic information element. It is also referred to as Si, S, experiential sensing, or white sensing. Si is associated with the ability to internalize sensations and to experience them in full detail. Si focuses on tangible, direct (external) connections (introverted) between processes (dynamic) happening in one time, i.e. the physical, sensual experience of interactions between objects. This leads to an awareness of internal tangible physical states and how various physical fluctuations or substances are directly transferred between objects, such as motion, temperature, or dirtiness. The awareness of these tangible physical processes consequently leads to an awareness of health, or an optimum balance with one's environment. The individual physical reaction to concrete surroundings is main way we perceive and define aesthetics, comfort, convenience, and pleasure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Clearly View Post
    How does he seem intuitive to you?

    This might be a bit of a stretch, but I think I can make a case for Djokovic being Si-ego. He made the following comments after his record-breaking match against Rafael Nadal in the 2012 Australian Open final:


    Now, here is sociotype.com on Introverted Sensing:
    What he seems to be doing is expressing the quality or state of his phyaical condition rather than how he feels about that pain or ia experiencing about that pain.
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    Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
    Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa View Post
    What he seems to be doing is expressing the quality or state of his phyaical condition rather than how he feels about that pain or ia experiencing about that pain.
    I disagree, I'm pretty sure he's talking about what's happening rather than what simply is. I don't want to derail this thread any further, though.

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    I'm Ni-dom and I'd probably say what Novac said if I'd put my body through that much punishment! I mean, that was a LONG tennis match.

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    Bale´s playing style seems EJ to me, but idk
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    Quote Originally Posted by blood moon View Post
    And stfu about duck dynasty, go jerk off to them in another forum.
    Get the booze and the shot-glasses ready, there is now an actual use for Chris-Chan's posts.

    ONE SHOT FOR:
    "apparently you don't know what _____ is"
    using "PoLR" as an excuse to suck at life
    referencing DUCK COMMANDER (one more shot if cast members are used as type exemplars)
    content-devoid ass kissing
    "_____ has/have no idea what the types look like"
    content-devoid butthurt
    copy-and-paste from Wikisocion

    TWO SHOTS FOR:
    flip-flopping on a once-fanatically held position
    plugging words into another poster's format in an attempt to turn the tables (one more shot when this misfires completely)
    poorly-formatted table for functional dimensionality
    usage of the royal "we"

    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Clearly View Post
    Apparently you don't know what Fe is.
    *glug*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suedehead View Post
    Se creative? She's certainly dressed for it.

    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    Bale´s playing style seems EJ to me, but idk
    Everything that I've heard about him suggests introversion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woofwoofl View Post
    "apparently you don't know what _____ is"
    If blood moon thinks Novak "exudes Fe", then blood moon doesn't know what Fe is.


    Quote Originally Posted by woofwoofl View Post
    using "PoLR" as an excuse to suck at life
    It explains why I have trouble establishing and maintaining structure in my life:
    Represents “working activity” and always supposes a definite organization. By this is meant punctuality, the function of responsibilities, instruction, regulation, the hierarchy of subordination, accountability… And these are all which serve to drive the IEE away – any weighty framework that dictates to her “to fulfill responsibilities.” Her creativity sees nothing as predetermined. Therefore it is especially important that she find work in which her gifts are revealed.

    Quote Originally Posted by woofwoofl View Post
    referencing DUCK COMMANDER (one more shot if cast members are used as type exemplars)
    Dude, just watch the goddamn show. I'm telling you, it's a lesson in Beta.


    Quote Originally Posted by woofwoofl View Post
    content-devoid ass kissing
    haha, fair enough. Call it "politicking".


    Quote Originally Posted by woofwoofl View Post
    "_____ has/have no idea what the types look like"
    If woofwoofl thinks he's SEE, then woofwoofl has no idea what SEE looks like.


    Quote Originally Posted by woofwoofl View Post
    content-devoid butthurt
    I think you're the butthurt one, actually. You really dislike being criticized, and I think that's why you've been so zealous in your maneuvers against me. I call you out (whether successfully or unsuccessfully is another story) and you don't like that, so you get all mad and come up with mean and hurtful nicknames and make threads wherein you draw-and-quarter me.


    Quote Originally Posted by woofwoofl View Post
    copy-and-paste from Wikisocion
    It's called "referencing the text". How is that bad?


    Quote Originally Posted by woofwoofl View Post
    flip-flopping on a once-fanatically held position
    I'll admit, I didn't understand Aushra's definitions well enough. I should've read more about them before I decided to reformulate them. However, I'm not sure I would've understood them had I not taken the course I did, as it was arguments with other forum members that ultimately led to my better understanding. I'm still a bit leery of them, though, because I think some people around here justify their incorrect self-typings at least in part using the definitions of the information elements.


    Quote Originally Posted by woofwoofl View Post
    plugging words into another poster's format in an attempt to turn the tables (one more shot when this misfires completely)
    I think the only person this would misfire against is you, you crafty fucking D-ILE:
    In a group he is also the most (bright, strong, intelligent -- depending on the base type). The logical is "the most intelligent", the ethical is the most excitable, the sensor occupies the most space. That is, the sphere of his "achievements" and the specific way in which he attracts attention to himself and becomes the leader depends on his type. Dominants take the leadership explicitly, especially if they are ethical, sensing, or extraverted. Logical-intuitives do not always deliberately seek to lead, but must: "so that no idiots can order me around".

    Quote Originally Posted by woofwoofl View Post
    poorly-formatted table for functional dimensionality
    Poorly-formatted my ass, it's the simplest and most compact way to do it!


    Quote Originally Posted by woofwoofl View Post
    *glug*
    *the sound woof makes when he swallows spunk*
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