Information elements and the 8 vices

[mikemex]

Si - Hedonism.
Ni - Escapism.
Ti - Intolerance.
Fi - Indulgence.
Se - Intrusiveness.
Ne - Indecisiveness.
Te - Emotional autism.
Fe - Irrationality.

[UDP]

I'm not sure what kind of response you're looking for.

[ragnar]

Si - Hedonism.
Ni - Escapism.
Ti - Intolerance.
Fi - Indulgence.
Se - Intrusiveness.
Ne - Indecisiveness.
Te - Emotional autism.
Fe - Irrationality.

The general drift of the list seems ok.

But I'm not certain about the Ne indecisiveness - isn't that at least equally Ni-ish?
Also I think of Fe as "intrusive", especially after having to deal irl with certain ESFjs.

Also, isn't "emotional autism" equally Ti-ish as Te-ish?

[Creepy-male]

Ne - Floatitude
Te - Tactlessness

I'd suggest these then.

[Gilly]

How is Fi indulgence? I would say maybe something like Jealousy.

[Creepy-Cyclops]

They aren't too bad I suppose. I think Gul is right, Te as tactlessness is a bit more apt.

[Gilly]

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[Warlord]

Se - Lust/Greed
Si - Gluttony/Sloth
Fi - Wrath (Dante described vengeance as "love of justice perverted to revenge and spite".)
Fe - Envy (characterized by an insatiable desire)

Pride, "the mother of all sins", is none, in principle common to us all.

[UDP]

functional vices varying depending on one's quadra values, hm

[redbaron]

I would guess that the words you'd use would be different depending on who was writing them. For instance, what's "intrusive" to an INTj might not be intrusive to an INFp, etc. I certainly don't see Se as intrusive. I see it as brilliant perfection. No, seriously.

[UDP]

IMO this is bad description

[Mattie]

I would guess that the words you'd use would be different depending on who was writing them. For instance, what's "intrusive" to an INTj might not be intrusive to an INFp, etc. I certainly don't see Se as intrusive. I see it as brilliant perfection. No, seriously.

This is exactly what I was thinking. And that I'm naturally resistant to aligning anything from Socionics with those spiritual-like comparisons.

[mu4]

Se - Lust/Greed
Si - Gluttony/Sloth
Fi - Wrath (Dante described vengeance as "love of justice perverted to revenge and spite".)
Fe - Envy (characterized by an insatiable desire)

Pride, "the mother of all sins", is none, in principle common to us all.

All sins seem to be S and F.

I think this is why NTs like SF, it's kinda of like Paradise lost, for Eve sinned first due to temptation, but Adam sinned knowing it was wrong because he was bound by love.

[Brilliand]

Imo any phrasing of the elements as vices should be done from the perspective of quadras that devalue that element - with some reviewing to catch, say, a Gamma mistaking for . In quadras that value the element, any reference to the element as a vice is really referring to something else entirely - i.e. sometimes kindred types will insult each other's base functions when they really mean the creative function - unless perhaps the person is trying to be objective without really disliking the weakness.

This may result, of course, in every Xe getting the label "intrusiveness" and every Xi getting the label "passiveness"...

[The Exception]

From an LII's point of view:

Ti: superiority
Ne: Coolanzonality
Fi: Mediocrity
Se: PoLRity
Fe: Duality
Si: Inferiority
Te: Productivity
Ni: Predictability

[The Exception]

My turn:
Si - Introverted Sensing.
Ni - Introverted Intuition.
Ti - Introverted Thinking.
Fi - Introverted Feeling.
Se - Extroverted Sensing.
Ne - Extroverted intuition.
Te - Extroverted Thinking.
Fe - Extroverted Feeling.

+ 10

[The Exception]

Ne - Floatitude

[Creepy-male]

Ne: Coolanzonality

*retypes*

[Hot Scalding Gayser]

Si: Throat fuck spittle after the wife talks back to the husband. They're Canadian.
Se: 3 Fists and oil lube for grease in a car mechanic's garage while Miley Cyrus' "Nobody's Perfect" is playing on the radio. They then actually try to surgically transplant Wombs in the man's bloody anuses. The men all have misdemanors and the top has a felonly. He actually killed somebody, so his pits smell delicious.
Ni: Reverse cowgirl. They're both 5 years old. And they GID. (Gender Identity Disorder)
Ne: Smacking a redhead in the face with a treebark, and making her say 'Volarshaka' while spinning backwards while she has 3 man dicks in her throat. They are so rough with her she dies and it's a huge sensational story on TV. Much to everybody's horror, Hitta actually defends the men who did this to her, while Maria and Vero chase him with a cartoony cannonball in the background.
Te: Shithole pounding in the woods with 5 hairy muscular gay men. Woof! This can't be my weakness.
Ti: Donkey punching, ass licking, arm pit sniffing, jockstrap licking frat boys. And also a dog. They don't do anything to do the dog though, it just adds a touch more of homoeroticism.
Fi: Pure vanilla ice cream clear celibacy. A crystal ball of purity. In the middle though you see a spec of shit caked on the glass that's been there since 1865, and you can't rub it off. It smells really funky, and also like wine-y grandma pussy, like those old fancy perfume bottles at antique stores.
Fe: A dragon with volcanos on his face. The volcanos explode gum. Yes, gum not cum. It also smells like Hustler mags from the 80s'. But also on every other Friday they also spew cum. They gargle piss and breathe Metallic Fire that freezes, shatters your heart- and makes you see what you are most afraid of for a split second, before making it corporeal and eating your brains.

You will all die. Get over it.

[Hitta]

Si: Throat fuck spittle after the wife talks back to the husband. They're Canadian.
Se: 3 Fists and oil lube for grease in a car mechanic's garage while Miley Cyrus' "Nobody's Perfect" is playing on the radio. They then actually try to surgically transplant Wombs in the man's bloody anuses. The men all have misdemanors and the top has a felonly. He actually killed somebody, so his pits smell delicious.
Ni: Reverse cowgirl. They're both 5 years old. And they GID. (Gender Identity Disorder)
Ne: Smacking a redhead in the face with a treebark, and making her say 'Volarshaka' while spinning backwards while she has 3 man dicks in her throat. They are so rough with her she dies and it's a huge sensational story on TV. Much to everybody's horror, Hitta actually defends the men who did this to her, while Maria and Vero chase him with a cartoony cannonball in the background.
Te: Shithole pounding in the woods with 5 hairy muscular gay men. Woof! This can't be my weakness.
Ti: Donkey punching, ass licking, arm pit sniffing, jockstrap licking frat boys. And also a dog. They don't do anything to do the dog though, it just adds a touch more of homoeroticism.
Fi: Pure vanilla ice cream clear celibacy. A crystal ball of purity. In the middle though you see a spec of shit caked on the glass that's been there since 1865, and you can't rub it off. It smells really funky, and also like wine-y grandma pussy, like those old fancy perfume bottles at antique stores.
Fe: A dragon with volcanos on his face. The volcanos explode gum. Yes, gum not cum. It also smells like Hustler mags from the 80s'. But also on every other Friday they also spew cum. They gargle piss and breathe Metallic Fire that freezes, shatters your heart- and makes you see what you are most afraid of for a split second, before making it corporeal and eating your brains.

You will all die. Get over it.

There is no wrong or right way to do things. Everyone has a reason for their actions. I try not to judge.

[baittoman]

Si: Throat fuck spittle after the wife talks back to the husband. They're Canadian.
Se: 3 Fists and oil lube for grease in a car mechanic's garage while Miley Cyrus' "Nobody's Perfect" is playing on the radio. They then actually try to surgically transplant Wombs in the man's bloody anuses. The men all have misdemanors and the top has a felonly. He actually killed somebody, so his pits smell delicious.
Ni: Reverse cowgirl. They're both 5 years old. And they GID. (Gender Identity Disorder)
Ne: Smacking a redhead in the face with a treebark, and making her say 'Volarshaka' while spinning backwards while she has 3 man dicks in her throat. They are so rough with her she dies and it's a huge sensational story on TV. Much to everybody's horror, Hitta actually defends the men who did this to her, while Maria and Vero chase him with a cartoony cannonball in the background.
Te: Shithole pounding in the woods with 5 hairy muscular gay men. Woof! This can't be my weakness.
Ti: Donkey punching, ass licking, arm pit sniffing, jockstrap licking frat boys. And also a dog. They don't do anything to do the dog though, it just adds a touch more of homoeroticism.
Fi: Pure vanilla ice cream clear celibacy. A crystal ball of purity. In the middle though you see a spec of shit caked on the glass that's been there since 1865, and you can't rub it off. It smells really funky, and also like wine-y grandma pussy, like those old fancy perfume bottles at antique stores.
Fe: A dragon with volcanos on his face. The volcanos explode gum. Yes, gum not cum. It also smells like Hustler mags from the 80s'. But also on every other Friday they also spew cum. They gargle piss and breathe Metallic Fire that freezes, shatters your heart- and makes you see what you are most afraid of for a split second, before making it corporeal and eating your brains.

You will all die. Get over it.

why Nis can't do Ne. or why Nis shouldn't try Ne.

[Wrong Way Ticket]

Si: Throat fuck spittle after the wife talks back to the husband. They're Canadian.
Se: 3 Fists and oil lube for grease in a car mechanic's garage while Miley Cyrus' "Nobody's Perfect" is playing on the radio. They then actually try to surgically transplant Wombs in the man's bloody anuses. The men all have misdemanors and the top has a felonly. He actually killed somebody, so his pits smell delicious.
Ni: Reverse cowgirl. They're both 5 years old. And they GID. (Gender Identity Disorder)
Ne: Smacking a redhead in the face with a treebark, and making her say 'Volarshaka' while spinning backwards while she has 3 man dicks in her throat. They are so rough with her she dies and it's a huge sensational story on TV. Much to everybody's horror, Hitta actually defends the men who did this to her, while Maria and Vero chase him with a cartoony cannonball in the background.
Te: Shithole pounding in the woods with 5 hairy muscular gay men. Woof! This can't be my weakness.
Ti: Donkey punching, ass licking, arm pit sniffing, jockstrap licking frat boys. And also a dog. They don't do anything to do the dog though, it just adds a touch more of homoeroticism.
Fi: Pure vanilla ice cream clear celibacy. A crystal ball of purity. In the middle though you see a spec of shit caked on the glass that's been there since 1865, and you can't rub it off. It smells really funky, and also like wine-y grandma pussy, like those old fancy perfume bottles at antique stores.
Fe: A dragon with volcanos on his face. The volcanos explode gum. Yes, gum not cum. It also smells like Hustler mags from the 80s'. But also on every other Friday they also spew cum. They gargle piss and breathe Metallic Fire that freezes, shatters your heart- and makes you see what you are most afraid of for a split second, before making it corporeal and eating your brains.

You will all die. Get over it.

Wow, I can't even read that.

[Creepy-Pied Piper]

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[Brilliand]

*retypes*

I just realized... what kind of extrovert is chillaxed?

Why is intuition in Ne not capitalized and in Ni is?

Ne is special. It gets the only all-lowercase word.

[Khola aka Bee]

Fe: Love.

[Logos]

Se - Lust/Greed
Si - Gluttony/Sloth
Fi - Wrath (Dante described vengeance as "love of justice perverted to revenge and spite".)
Fe - Envy (characterized by an insatiable desire)

Pride, "the mother of all sins", is none, in principle common to us all.

I would actually switch Fi and Fe, as envy deals with the relationship between subject and object (Fi) whereas wrath deals more with an emotional efficacy.

[Creepy-male]

I just realized... what kind of extrovert is chillaxed?

The one constantly in their ever-spinning head.

[Creepy-Pied Piper]

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