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Last edited by Dee; 02-26-2009 at 02:13 AM.
what are L & M?
6w5 sx
model Φ: -+0
sloan - rcuei
within the results section.
6w5 sx
model Φ: -+0
sloan - rcuei
I really don't understand these tests at all.
Anyhow, here's a screendump. Perhaps you can decipher it for me.
Is there a non excel version of this test?
In any case, the test gives me delta ST.
Also for your statistic purposes here are my results.
0 1
0 1
2 2
2 1
0 0
0 0
0 2
0 1
2 2
2 1
1 0
2 1
0 0
0 0
0 2
0 1
Apparently I'm a delta with a tie between NF/NT.
Moonlight will fall
Winter will end
Harvest will come
Your heart will mend
If the higher number means more likely, then we're getting somewhere!
SF 2
ST 6
NF 6
NT 4
gamma 4
delta 13
alpha 5
beta 7
INFj
9w1 sp/sx
Test says I'm NT, Gamma.
Gamma: 9
Delta: 7
Alpha: 6
Beta: 4
Anyway, some questions were too vague.
"do work to ensure comfort"
Sounds Si on the surface but doesn't everyone work to maintain a certain lifestyle for themselves? Some might relate that to comfort.
And I have to ask something:
"use forceful behavior to ensure traditions are preserved, people situations are solved, behavior is corrected, a morality violator is punished. being an achiever and forceful to make sure social norms and relationships are as wanted"
Do Gamma SFs really use forceful behavior to follow social norms?
Looking around and cleaning your stuff so you could have better access to your recourses, heating up the place if it's too cold, eating something before a long session of work and so on. You know, so that while you are doing something you can do it with relative ease, comfort.
SF 8 gamma 6
ST 8 delta 3
NF 8 alpha 5
NT 14 beta 4
...the human race will disappear. Other races will appear and disappear in turn. The sky will become icy and void, pierced by the feeble light of half-dead stars. Which will also disappear. Everything will disappear. And what human beings do is just as free of sense as the free motion of elementary particles. Good, evil, morality, feelings? Pure 'Victorian fictions'.
INTp
oh, let me post the full scores -
SF 6
ST 6
NF 6
NT 9
gamma 6
delta 5
alpha 5
beta 3
and for stats -
1 0
1 1
0 1
2 2
0 1
1 1
0 0
0 1
1 1
1 1
1 0
0 0
2 2
1 1
1 0
1 1
6w5 sx
model Φ: -+0
sloan - rcuei
SF 6
ST 6
NF 7
NT 4
gamma 8
delta 12
alpha 14
beta 8
alpha sf- gamma nt 5 x alpha sf ISFP
alpha nt-gamma sf #REF!
beta nf-delta st -6
beta st-delta nf -2 x delta nf INFJ
I cant answer this test. I think to much in some question and i don't get the perfect self from this test.
Fuck!
Using the same answers I gave before:
INFj
9w1 sp/sx
hey dee, in the graph in the new file, what are the different series?
hey I think you have some of the formulas the wrong way around
- like you INTj row refers to the ENTp question and vice versa, your INFp row refers to the ENFj question etc
but anyway, the quadra/club sums are right, and they give me:
Gamma NT (11)
Delta NF, Alpha NT (8)
...
Gamma SF, Alpha SF (-1)
Beta ST (-4)
(though I answered 'not sure' to most questions)
Edit: actually your equations aren't the wrong way around, I was mistaken. The idea of each question is "using creative function in order to fulfill need of base function", right?
Last edited by hellothere; 01-13-2008 at 05:14 AM. Reason: I was wrong
isfp -4
esfj -4
intj 5
entp 7
enfj -2
infp -1
estp 2
istj -1
istp 4
estj 2
infj 2
enfp 5
entj 8
intp 8
esfp -1
isfj -2
alpha 4
beta -2
delta 13
gamma 13
isfp 2
esfj 0
intj 4
entp 3
enfj -2
infp -3
estp 2
istj 1
istp 4
estj 6
infj 2
enfp 1
entj -1
intp 0
esfp 1
isfj 0
alpha 9
beta -2
delta 13
gamma 0
Is this fixed already? It might be the defining difference in my case.
Anyways, this test puts me clearly as Alpha NT. In my typing threads I have been singled out as being ENTp, ENFp, INFp and definately irrational. It seems these things together point strongly to ENTp.
However looking only at the result of this test and my likely enneagram type of 5w6 I cannot rule out INTj either. (INTj and ENTp have equal score but INFj scores way way higher than ESTp)
Actually, dee, I have been quite suspicious of your interpretation of socionics for quite some time but perhaps things have recently "clicked" in your head as this test looks extremely promising to me. The aspects of this test are very good. It is simple, consistent and differentiates types and quadras exceptionally well. Hard to say about the aspects i.e. does it really match with reality but if you look at the answers of some people also aspects seem promising. Perhaps differentiating mirrors is one potential achilles heel. There are some people, me and tereg included, who might get mirror types mixed up. Or not, cant say yet. Perhaps we are INTj and INFj instead of ENTp and ENFp as the common concensus goes.
I guess I have to finally admit that I'm not Gamma or INTp and ESFp is not my dual
isfp 3
esfj 3
intj 8
entp 8
enfj 7
infp 4
estp -3
istj 4
istp -2
estj 1
infj 6
enfp -2
entj 3
intp 3
esfp -4
isfj -4
alpha 22
beta 12
delta 3
gamma -2
Funnily, my wife ended up testing has her mirror (too?). Quadra went right, club went right, but wrong mirror type. I remember Hugo and perhaps some others too having problems with getting the mirrors right. I think in the end Hugo gave up on that and just made his test give both mirror types as an answer (as it is generally not that hard to separate between mirror types using other means. Just in tests it is difficult.)
which types are supposed to "use forceful behavior to ensure traditions are preserved"? And that bit later in the same question about "social norms"?
I agree with Joy that the exact wording of the questions should be improved. E.g. questions 2 and 3 do not properly differentiate ISFp and ESFj. Many of the questions 12+ are way too long and hard to grasp.
But I really like the framework. It is just that the wording of the questions need to be refined.
Dee, if ESI's were anything like your question makes them sound, they would not be the dual of LIE's.