@LIIs Ti and/or not and 'distance'

[plasmatorpedo1043]

So this has been getting a little confusing. A lot of people have been saying that Ti is largely about distance, then on the other hand others say it is not and kind of string it with other things namely Te. So under what function is distance measured and used, or is it more than one function. I was going to post this in the alpha quadra thread, as I largely glean information from LIIs the most, but I figured I'd give it a shot instead. I've also heard Si being it.

SO for my more 'learn-ed' explorers, we can attribute it to the largely successful "number" system!

0 - a dot
1 - a line
2 - a plane
3 - a polygon

So it seems like under this, 1, or Te is the most "logical"? solution. But it seems like this is not a geometric thing, oddly enough. Im starting to feel like space is part of everything, so seeing it in any function is not that weird. Well usually... And Ni is the intuition of time, but dimensionality 4 deals with time? in any function. Idk, a lot of this seems to have no practical application because its so fucking hard to figure out and apply to everyday situations. Then I get confused
What are your justifications?
This is getting annyogin and confusing

[Kill4Me]

A lot of people have not been saying that. Those definitions are embarrassingly awful and have no meat or substance to them. Ni equals a rich, unique, highly detailed imagination (call it an inner world, mental landscape, what have you). Ti-lead equals hard-headed data collection. Ti-leads have a cognition for using data to get at the most fundamental truths (axioms) and then building knowledge from the ground up. So Ti is the ultimate in the linear, logical, clear-headed scientific approach. Te-lead equals black and white...."oughts" and "shoulds"....Te-leads have a cognition for imposing their oughts and shoulds onto the environment for the purposes of order, control, management. That's Ni, Ti, and Te in a nutshell.

My justification is Jung. Socionics uses Jung's functions so why wouldn't it be Jung...only a moron would not take into account Jung's definition of each function...socionics adds model A and type relations but socionics doesn't change the fundamental nature of each function as fleshed out by Jung. Gulenko already proved this. Any self-proclaimed socionist denying Jung is automatically a heretic/loon in socionics. No serious socionist denies Jung unless they want a smack. I cracked a group of anti-Jungians in a debate here last year.

"It incorporates Carl Jung's work on Psychological Types with Antoni Kępiński's theory of information metabolism. Socionics is a modification of Jung's personality type theory that uses eight psychic functions, in contrast to Jung's model, which used only four. These functions are supposed to process information at varying levels of competency and interact with the corresponding function in other individuals, giving rise to predictable reactions and impressions—a theory of intertype relations.[1][2]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socionics

Gulenko considers himself an analytical psychologist and a disciple of Carl Gustav Jung. In his work he has sought to bring clarity to Jung's assertions and to show how socionics can justify them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Gulenko

There are only 4 pairs of Jungian dichotomies splitting mankind into 16 types. All socionic schools apply them both in theoretical works and in practice, e.g. type diagnostics.

Most applicable in socionics are 6 groups based on Jungian dimensions (temperaments, attitudes towards certain activities, perception, communicability, stimuli, argumentation),

http://www.socioniko.net/en/articles/gulenko-mbti.html

[Number 9 large]

So this has been getting a little confusing. A lot of people have been saying that Ti is largely about distance, then on the other hand others say it is not and kind of string it with other things namely Te. So under what function is distance measured and used, or is it more than one function. I was going to post this in the alpha quadra thread, as I largely glean information from LIIs the most, but I figured I'd give it a shot instead. I've also heard Si being it.

SO for my more 'learn-ed' explorers, we can attribute it to the largely successful "number" system!

0 - a dot
1 - a line
2 - a plane
3 - a polygon

So it seems like under this, 1, or Te is the most "logical"? solution. But it seems like this is not a geometric thing, oddly enough. Im starting to feel like space is part of everything, so seeing it in any function is not that weird. Well usually... And Ni is the intuition of time, but dimensionality 4 deals with time? in any function. Idk, a lot of this seems to have no practical application because its so fucking hard to figure out and apply to everyday situations. Then I get confused
What are your justifications?
This is getting annyogin and confusing

where the fuck did u get distance from? Ti is about reductive thinking, Te more inductive, thats pretty much it. your whole theory stinks

[Kill4Me]

There's a thread currently at Typologycentral, "What would the world be like without religion?" Now that's a good question for an IEI or ILI...with their highly detailed, unique imaginations/mental landscape they could articulate a highly stylized 3 dimensional portrait of what the world be like without religion. It'll have differences in qualia due to different creative functions, but in a nutshell, that's the type of question Ni-dom cognition would be best suited to answer. Intuition of time as the definition of Ni is flat out horrid and makes no sense whatsoever. It shows an out-of-touchness with reality. I conducted a successful scientific project involving over 2500+ examples and always kept socionics in mind. I know all the different types and subtypes of people out there in the world like the back of my hand and right down to the slightest features of cognition...so much so that I was able to easily expand into socionics. I can tell you that there is no group , no type of individuals for whom you can reasonably infer an "intuition of time" or "intuition of distance" as a core processor/feature of cognition. It's just some made up hokey-pokey that belongs in the pantheon of socionics sci-fi. If you're going to call it "intuition of time", just name it something else and start a different typology so as to avoid confusion with Ni and for people who want to learn socionics. It's important to get the right information out there so new members can make informed decisions about their types. Period.

[Exodus]

So this has been getting a little confusing. A lot of people have been saying that Ti is largely about distance, then on the other hand others say it is not and kind of string it with other things namely Te. So under what function is distance measured and used, or is it more than one function. I was going to post this in the alpha quadra thread, as I largely glean information from LIIs the most, but I figured I'd give it a shot instead. I've also heard Si being it.

SO for my more 'learn-ed' explorers, we can attribute it to the largely successful "number" system!

0 - a dot
1 - a line
2 - a plane
3 - a polygon

So it seems like under this, 1, or Te is the most "logical"? solution. But it seems like this is not a geometric thing, oddly enough. Im starting to feel like space is part of everything, so seeing it in any function is not that weird. Well usually... And Ni is the intuition of time, but dimensionality 4 deals with time? in any function. Idk, a lot of this seems to have no practical application because its so fucking hard to figure out and apply to everyday situations. Then I get confused
What are your justifications?
This is getting annyogin and confusing

Let's try to make the question more precise first.

IM elements (or aspects) are categories of information, or types of questions we can ask about the world. The most basic kind of question we can ask about distance is "How far away is X?" That seems like a Te question - it's specific factual information about the world. If you're judging distance using direct sensory perception then Sensing will also be implicated.

The reason distance was (metaphorically) used to refer to Ti (by Augusta and probably other Soviet socionists which is what you're probably referring to) is that it's an example of an objective relationship between things, and Augusta defined introversion as relationships between things. This is a bit subject to dispute, though.

[Kill4Me]

The bottom line is real socionics uses Jung's definitions of the functions. Ni as intuition of time or Ti as intuition of distance came over on the boat from fake socionics. Some....let's call them traitors/turncoats or just shills....wanted to assimilate/conform the 16types discussions about functions into the definitions being used by the anti-Jungian, anti-VI, anti-Reinin fake "socionists" over at Bullshit socionics society and elsewhere...

[Nortakr]

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