Coping With Manipulation

[Desert Financial]

Do you have any proven ways of coping with manipulation, manipulative people, or influence?

Everyone is susceptible to manipulation. Every individual can be motivated to carry out the will of a manipulator because everyone has a desire of some kind. Some people prioritize money, while others prioritize relationships, and even ideologies can serve as tools for manipulation. Even highly intelligent people may fall prey to the grooming of manipulative cults. In my field, a common form of manipulation goes by the name "social engineering." Social engineers often exploit the good will of their victims. The task of training people to combat social engineering tactics comes as a challenge because people have inherent psychological blind-spots.

So, have you learned any ways to deal with manipulation or avoid it all together?

[hatchback176]

How can you stop wise, magnetic, and sexy people like me from winning the masses over to my side? You can't. Maybe if you ask really nicely I'll let you work for me. Until then you can read up on the gamma quadra and marvel at the evolution of human intelligence. I'm actually grateful that LII's haven't managed to connect in the slightest with their dual ESE and want to personally thank you guys for providing us with so many sheep.

[squark]

Well, even knowing one's own blind spots and vulnerabilities doesn't always stop them from being exploited unless you completely cease trusting anyone. I suppose you could take the approach to not give more than you're willing to lose. Then even if someone manipulates or backstabs you, it wasn't any more than you would give up freely anyway.

[Bertrand]

How can you stop wise, magnetic, and sexy people like me from winning the masses over to my side? You can't. Maybe if you ask really nicely I'll let you work for me. Until then you can read up on the gamma quadra and marvel at the evolution of human intelligence. I'm actually grateful that LII's haven't managed to connect in the slightest with their dual ESE and want to personally thank you guys for providing us with so many sheep.

lol the problem with ESE is they bring chaos to anything, the cost in corralling them is likely to offset any benefit. its almost like God gave them intrinsic protection from being enslaved like Jar Jar binks. or like how nature imbues prey with natural defenses, like a poison frog. I feel like on some level there's some deep truth to that, its just imperceptible at times and its easy to be cynical about, when there is something good and necessary and its not just in manipulating them, but something to be learned and even admired. Otherwise you go the way of Nietzsche and Schopenhauer or worse, Weininger. It is some sense the devil's due, or perhaps you could say the great mother, or chaos. it really is the yin without which there would be no yang

of course, here, as elsewhere, they're totally out of control

[Desert Financial]

Well, even knowing one's own blind spots and vulnerabilities doesn't always stop them from being exploited unless you completely cease trusting anyone.I suppose you could take the approach to not give more than you're willing to lose. Then even if someone manipulates or backstabs you, it wasn't any more than you would give up freely anyway.

The bold is true. Vulnerabilities remain, regardless. Moreover, most human interaction consists of manipulative elements. So, to prevent manipulation all together requires total isolation.

The underlined works. IME, it also requires a general plan to reach personal objectives, so you have a yardstick to measure what you can reasonably lose.

[Pallas]

Socionics is social engineering

How to avoid manipulation: don't give any fucks. Basically Buddhism. whatever type idontgiveaf is is the most enlightened type to exist

[Desert Financial]

Socionics is social engineering

How to avoid manipulation: don't give any fucks. Basically Buddhism. whatever type idontgiveaf is is the most enlightened type to exist

@idontgiveaf

[Bertrand]

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[Exodus]

Do you have any proven ways of coping with manipulation, manipulative people, or influence?

Everyone is susceptible to manipulation. Every individual can be motivated to carry out the will of a manipulator because everyone has a desire of some kind. Some people prioritize money, while others prioritize relationships, and even ideologies can serve as tools for manipulation. Even highly intelligent people may fall prey to the grooming of manipulative cults. In my field, a common form of manipulation goes by the name "social engineering." Social engineers often exploit the good will of their victims. The task of training people to combat social engineering tactics comes as a challenge because people have inherent psychological blind-spots.

So, have you learned any ways to deal with manipulation or avoid it all together?

Yes I have devoted quite a bit of thought to this topic.

Basically you need to first recognize what kinds of things people typically want (in particular from you, which depends on what resources you possess). Then you consider what ways they might achieve it using you.

Maybe the most obvious example is money: someone wants you to buy something for them, buy their product, give them money directly. Or sex: again it is pretty obvious when somebody is looking for it (but seeing as you are male, this one is typically not a problem).

There are more subtle examples though, like control, attention, status, or vindication/confirmation of their being in the right.

People might recruit you into some kind of conflict with others, using you as a pawn. Solution: don't commit to either side.
A girl might fish for compliments by putting herself down. Solution: don't take the bait.
A person might try to convince you to give up some control under the guise of "wanting to help". Solution: maintain control while dismissing the need for help.
Someone might twist your words to make you look bad (you're unreliable, you're malicious, or you're simply a poor fool). Solution: don't divulge more personal information than you have to, or to people you don't trust, because it can easily be used against you.
Someone might try to shift blame from themselves, possibly onto you. Solution: maintain a clear view on the situation and don't fall for gaslighting. A big part of this has to do with trusting your own judgment and looking at what people do while ignoring what they say.

Etc.

[Desert Financial]

[Aramas]

Do you have any proven ways of coping with manipulation, manipulative people, or influence?

Everyone is susceptible to manipulation. Every individual can be motivated to carry out the will of a manipulator because everyone has a desire of some kind. Some people prioritize money, while others prioritize relationships, and even ideologies can serve as tools for manipulation. Even highly intelligent people may fall prey to the grooming of manipulative cults. In my field, a common form of manipulation goes by the name "social engineering." Social engineers often exploit the good will of their victims. The task of training people to combat social engineering tactics comes as a challenge because people have inherent psychological blind-spots.

So, have you learned any ways to deal with manipulation or avoid it all together?

Coping makes it sound like you just put up with it. Try fighting back against it.

[hatchback176]

Drug and sex trafficking, military-industrial complex, consumerism and pop culture, cookie-cutter homes, diploma mills, multi-level marketing, standardized curriculums, call center farms, megachurches, etc.

I'm not seeing much chaos from ESE's. I am seeing very easy to manipulate sheep for the gamma quadra to delegate and exploit.

[Desert Financial]

Coping makes it sound like you just put up with it. Try fighting back against it.

You're misinterpreting.

[Bertrand]

I'm not seeing much chaos from ESE's. I am seeing very easy to manipulate sheep for the gamma quadra to delegate and exploit.

lol yeah, but what's it all for. meanwhile theyre fucking up the call center and for what

[hatchback176]

ILI's are the contingency planners https://www.keirsey.com/4temps/mastermind.asp
They can fuck up whatever they want in their tiny sheep corner because we naturally apply systems thinking to whatever little coupon-using, window shopper, home-shopping network, knitting club, tupperware and mary kay cosmetics, candy crush saga and farmville playing, Jerry Springer Oprah TMZ watching gossip circle social approval bullshit they use for meaning in their life towards our own gamma quadra supremacy.

[Bertrand]

yeah I get what you've been conveying I'm just saying you can't really hand wave the chaos they introduce by some abstract notion of accounting for it when in practice its like this x factor that's essentially impossible to isolate... its sort of a hubristic claim to make, that doesn't really hold up unless you ignore a lot. for example the sub prime mortgage loan crisis etc and then you've got them over in the other thread claiming victory by being moms cuvieninny "siring children" and its like they're either bullying their own children or raising their children to bully or attempt to bully ILI etc. one would have to ignore the social manifestation almost entirely in order to not see them "winning" in some perverse sense at least across some fronts... the point is this talk of having the upper hand from both sides seems wrong on some level

[hatchback176]

That's nothing, we already won. ILI's are the ones that read and study. Social dynamics, personality typologies, marketing psychology, decentralized currencies, air travel, consult/coaching services, Science/Technology/Engineering/Mathematics job markets, online curriculums, smart phone apps, social network data mining, the rise of VR and AI, drone technology, wikileaks reality-breaking secrets, work from home online business, mixed martial arts brazilian jiu-jitsu gyms, etc. It's all there for us to learn and implement for the cushy, insulated from danger, upper-class lifestyle that inoculates us from whatever hamster wheel an ESE wants to burn themselves out on.

[Bertrand]

so that's winning? having a cushy life? also that stuff you listed is just as much a hamster wheel in its own way. perhaps it is more fair to say each prefers their own hamster wheel, to achieve their own version of the good life. which is something of a trivial statement, "my way to my goals" but at the same time perhaps you can see it all sort of drowns in relativism unless you can attach yourself to something greater.. and I don't think a self satisfied myopia, i.e.: egoism is necessarily the solution either, since in its own way thats precisely what ESE falls into and what precipitates mutual conflict.. if we could dissolve that conflict or dialectically resolve it all this jockeying and "ESE management" could perhaps finally come to an end rather than both sides declaring victory and continuing on as always, with God knows how many people caught in between

[hatchback176]

You're not factoring in any mental transformation that attends each rise in the knowledge base.

[Bertrand]

are you saying spiritual enlightenment is in that checklist somewhere.. honestly I don't disagree but ESE has their own version, usually in the form of having children

[hatchback176]

You mean can ILI's manage to learn about EIE/ENFJ?
https://static.oprah.com/images/o2/2...e-list-01a.pdf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Course_in_Miracles
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00149ZWT0...ng=UTF8&btkr=1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tao_Te_Ching
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0076XRD1S...ng=UTF8&btkr=1

The answer is yes, didn't take me more than 3 weeks to power through.

[wacey]

You mean can ILI's manage to learn about EIE/ENFJ?
https://static.oprah.com/images/o2/2...e-list-01a.pdf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Course_in_Miracles
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00149ZWT0...ng=UTF8&btkr=1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tao_Te_Ching
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0076XRD1S...ng=UTF8&btkr=1

The answer is yes, didn't take me more than 3 weeks to power through.

Har har.

[Bertrand]

what I mean is mental transformations as a byproduct of experience and learning are really a product of what Jung calls the transcendent function.. its the function that perceives the underlying meaning beyond the lens of type, in other words its the universal meaning that underlies all experience that everyone has access to regardless of their chosen hamster wheel, because it inheres under every hamster wheel and behind every goal. it is what makes unification possible because it is the movement toward unification, but it expresses itself manifestly different than your tone here, which is highly differentiated... my point is everyone can express a highly differentiated perspective quite easily, but it is psychologically unconvincing to anyone but those who already agree. its the transcendent function that bridges the gap and I dont think anyone has a claim on enlightenment apart from it and it should be able to express itself as such "ye shall know them by their fruits" etc. So when I see normies have kids I see them go through something similar as when you read an article on oprah. you may say, well I achieved that understanding in less time (3 weeks), but ESEs no less have their domains of expedient mastery, etc

for what its worth I totally agree with your base perspective (at least inasmuch as I can understand it), but it feels lacking in some respect too to me. so I just wanted to add to it where possible, not denigrate it

[hatchback176]

Once again you aren't factoring in any mental transformation that attends a rise in your knowledge base. Pretending like your paragraph means more than the 3 weeks I spent learning all the concepts EIE could throw at me is insulting.

[Bertrand]

im just saying at some point it cant be completely isomorphic with arrogance to have anything more than private meaning.. perhaps that mental transformation will better the world, in fact it probably will, but I suppose it will go unnoticed... my only point is imperceptibility of good is something you may share with ESE and vice versa.. you might call it the human condition.. I wouldn't be so quick to separate yourself from the pack via the contents of your intellect because there is a trick being played there... sort of how lucifer was the bringer of light and pride is the first sin. and then its a short jump to cain and abel. of course I'm no better, I'm just conveying my perception of some of the stuff you said and how it strikes me. if its not valid then don't be insulted; in fact don't be insulted in any case, there's nothing really meriting that

[hatchback176]

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It isn't hard maturing you just gotta make sure not to prey on people's weaknesses.
1. Insecurities/Blindspots
2. Lust/Impulse/Addiction Cues
3. Upbringing/Traditions/Habits/Homelife and Life-Experience
4. Self-Esteem/Confidence/Worth and Morale/Distress
5. Support networks of friends, counselors, communities, mentors, associates, investors, and family
6. Identity/Morality/Plans/Property/Dependents
7. Imbalances/Biases/Presuppositions/Sanity
*
Aim for long-term objectives like contracts, mutual consent, joint accounting, communal property, shared investments, emergency insurance, progeny, and cooperative legacies.
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Am I missing something significant? I win debates all the time, that's not me bragging arrogantly it's just a fact of the matter.

[Hope]

whatever type idontgiveaf is is the most enlightened type to exist

You must be ILI for saying such
Everyone is susceptible to manipulation, even her (SEE).
Plus, its not like its hard, all ethical types can be manipulated via feels.

[Bertrand]

=========
It isn't hard maturing you just gotta make sure not to prey on people's weaknesses.
1. Insecurities/Blindspots
2. Lust/Impulse/Addiction Cues
3. Upbringing/Traditions/Habits/Homelife and Life-Experience
4. Self-Esteem/Confidence/Worth and Morale/Distress
5. Support networks of friends, counselors, communities, mentors, associates, investors, and family
6. Identity/Morality/Plans/Property/Dependents
7. Imbalances/Biases/Presuppositions/Sanity
*
Aim for long-term objectives like contracts, mutual consent, joint accounting, communal property, shared investments, emergency insurance, progeny, and cooperative legacies.
========

Am I missing something significant? I win debates all the time, that's not me bragging arrogantly it's just a fact of the matter.

Its a good list but it captures morality in terms that are fundamentally normative so its sort of blind to the beyond in time and collective unconscious, except as a forward reaching policy, which is kind of dead. this list lurches forward like a conceptual mummy. thats what you have to appreciate I think about ethical types is they are living embodiments of the spirit of these sorts of lists.. its not the kind of thing you can program yourself with. its sort of like how there is as yet no true AI

im not saying everyone is obligated to go beyond normative ethics, such a thing would be impossible, but the overall picture is something to keep in mind when characterizing other people. it feels weird to so emphatically emphasize differences without at the same time realizing it all points back to ones own weaknesses... i feel like that should be the basis for a higher consideration

[hatchback176]

1) Maturity and Objectives are forward-reaching, that's the definition.
2) Morality is 1 item in group 6, yet you're interpreting the entire list in the light of it. That's blindness.
3) The inability to organize your thoughts when you're making reference to Carl Jung is insulting my intelligence.

[Spermatozoa]

You must be ILI for saying such
Everyone is susceptible to manipulation, even her (SEE).

No way in hell is idontgiveaf an SEE. Or any Se-ego for that matter.

Look at the thread she started here: http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...ose-when-i-die

Lots of "what if?" type brainstorming. That is Ne - zany, bizarre, chaotic and scattered. There is no passion and no purpose to it. It would be like me asking, oh, what if unicorns are real? Hahah wouldn't that be soooo cooooollll!!!!!

Losers...

Shit, I'll explain it to you in pictures.

Her:



VS

Me:



Who would you rather be?

Plus, its not like its hard, all ethical types can be manipulated via feels.

Ethical types can be manipulated through logic. Logical types can be manipulated through ethics. Pick your poison.

[Hope]

@Cuivienen, lol

[hatchback176]

it feels weird to so emphatically emphasize differences without at the same time realizing it all points back to ones own weaknesses... i feel like that should be the basis for a higher consideration

What weaknesses? Oh you mean that whole list I took the time to write out!

[hatchback176]

EIE's like to believe there is a hidden truth in everything. That the end game is mysterious rather than clear cut and talked about constantly:
A. Here are some famous sins...

7 Deadly Sins
1) Lust
2) Gluttony
3) Greed
4) Sloth
5) Wrath
6) Envy
7) Pride

B. Here is an EIE with his idea of life improvement...

7 Keys to improve your life by Joel Osteen
1) Enlarge your vision;
2) Develop a healthy self-image;
3) Discover the power of your thoughts and words;
4) Let go of the past;
5) Find strength through adversity;
6) Live to give;
7) Choose to be happy.

C. Here he is again trying to motivate us to be our best...

7 Keys to living your full potential by Joel Osteen
1. Keep pressing forward.
2. Be positive toward yourself.
3. Develop better relationships.
4. Form better habits.
5. Embrace the place where you are.
6. Develop your inner life.
7. Stay passionate about life.

I think I got it.

[Pallas]

For comparison, here are some famous virtues, listed along with the famous sins:

Virtue	Latin	Gloss	(Sin)	(Latin)
Chastity	Castitas	Purity, abstinence	Lust	Luxuria
Temperance	Temperantia	Humanity, equanimity	Gluttony	Gula
Charity	Caritas	Will, benevolence, generosity, sacrifice	Greed	Avaritia
Diligence	Industria	Persistence, Effort[disambiguation needed], ethics	Sloth	Acedia
Patience	Patientia	Forgiveness, mercy	Wrath	Ira
Kindness	Humanitas	Satisfaction, compassion	Envy	Invidia
Humility	Humilitas	Bravery, modesty, reverence	Pride	Superbia

Joel Osteen is dumb and pretty much a Jesus-themed self-help guru, but your post is just conspiracism.

[hatchback176]

You're dumb compared to me

[Bertrand]

I love Joel Osteen!

[Pallas]

You're dumb compared to me

I think you might have that backwards.

And anyways, I meant the whole Joel Osteen, Jesus-Themed Self-Help Guru brand is kind of goofy. I have no idea how smart the guy is and that's not my point, and how smart you are or I am is even less relevant. I'm not as obsessive about intelligence as you are.

[hatchback176]

I used your word

[Desert Financial]

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...p-manipulators

“There are those whose primary ability is to spin wheels of manipulation. It is their second skin and without these spinning wheels, they simply do not know how to function.”― C. JoyBell C.
Psychological manipulation can be defined as the exercise of undue influence through mental distortion and emotional exploitation, with the intention to seize power, control, benefits, and privileges at the victim’s expense.
It is important to distinguish healthy social influence from psychological manipulation. Healthy social influence occurs between most people, and is part of the give and take of constructive relationships. In psychological manipulation, one person is used for the benefit of another. The manipulator deliberately creates an imbalance of power, and exploits the victim to serve his or her agenda.
Most manipulative individuals have four common characteristics:

1. They know how to detect your weaknesses.
2. Once found, they use your weaknesses against you.
3. Through their shrewd machinations, they convince you to give up something of yourself in order to serve their self-centered interests.
4. In work, social, and family situations, once a manipulator succeeds in taking advantage of you, he or she will likely repeat the violation until you put a stop to the exploitation.

Root causes for chronic manipulation are complex and deep-seated. But whatever drives an individual to be psychologically manipulative, it’s not easy when you’re on the receiving end of such aggression. How can one successfully manage these situations? Here are eight keys to handling manipulative people. Not all of the tips below may apply to your particular situation. Simply utilize what works and leave the rest.
For more in-depth tools on how to effectively handle difficult individuals, download free excerpts of my publications (click on titles) "How to Successfully Handle Manipulative People," "How to Successfully Handle Narcissists," and "How to Successfully Handle Passive-Aggressive People."
1. Know Your Fundamental Human Rights*
The single most important guideline when you’re dealing with a psychologically manipulative person is to know your rights, and recognize when they’re being violated. As long as you do not harm others, you have the right to stand up for yourself and defend your rights. On the other hand, if you bring harm to others, you may forfeit these rights. Following are some of our fundamental human rights:

• You have the right to be treated with respect.
• You have the right to express your feelings, opinions and wants.
• You have the right to set your own priorities.
• You have the right to say “no” without feeling guilty.
• You have the right to get what you pay for.
• You have the right to have opinions different than others.
• You have the right to take care of and protect yourself from being threatened physically, mentally or emotionally.
• You have the right to create your own happy and healthy life.

These fundamental human rights represent your boundaries.
Of course, our society is full of people who do not respect these rights. Psychological manipulators, in particular, want to deprive you of your rights so they can control and take advantage of you. But you have the power and moral authority to declare that it is you, not the manipulator, who’s in charge of your life.
2. Keep Your Distance
One way to detect a manipulator is to see if a person acts with different faces in front of different people and in different situations. While all of us have a degree of this type of social differentiation, some psychological manipulators tend to habitually dwell in extremes, being highly polite to one individual and completely rude to another—or totally helpless one moment and fiercely aggressive the next. When you observe this type of behavior from an individual on a regular basis, keep a healthy distance, and avoid engaging with the person unless you absolutely have to. As mentioned earlier, reasons for chronic psychological manipulation are complex and deep-seated. It is not your job to change or save them.
3. Avoid Personalization and Self-Blame
Since the manipulator’s agenda is to look for and exploit your weaknesses, it is understandable that you may feel inadequate, or even blame yourself for not satisfying the manipulator. In these situations, it’s important to remember that you are not the problem; you’re simply being manipulated to feel bad about yourself, so that you’re more likely to surrender your power and rights. Consider your relationship with the manipulator, and ask the following questions:

• Am I being treated with genuine respect?
• Are this person’s expectations and demands of me reasonable?
• Is the giving in this relationship primarily one way or two ways?
• Ultimately, do I feel good about myself in this relationship?

Your answers to these questions give you important clues about whether the “problem” in the relationship is with you or the other person.
For more in-depth information on reducing or eliminating over fifteen types of negative attitudes and feelings, see my book (click on title): "How to Let Go of Negative Thoughts and Emotions.”
4. Put the Focus on Them by Asking Probing Questions
Inevitably, psychological manipulators will make requests (or demands) of you. These “offers” often make you go out of your way to meet their needs. When you hear an unreasonable solicitation, it’s sometimes useful to put the focus back on the manipulator by asking a few probing questions, to see if she or he has enough self-awareness to recognize the inequity of their scheme. For example:

• “Does this seem reasonable to you?”
• “Does what you want from me sound fair?”
• “Do I have a say in this?”
• “Are you asking me or telling me?”
• “So, what do I get out of this?”
• “Are you really expecting me to [restate the inequitable request]?"

When you ask such questions, you’re putting up a mirror, so the manipulator can see the true nature of his or her ploy. If the manipulator has a degree of self-awareness, he or she will likely withdraw the demand and back down.
On the other hand, truly pathological manipulators (such as a narcissist) will dismiss your questions and insist on getting their way. If this occurs, apply ideas from the following tips to keep your power, and halt the manipulation.
To learn more specifically about how to deal with narcissists, see my book (click on title): "How to Successfully Handle Narcissists.”
5. Use Time to Your Advantage
In addition to unreasonable requests, the manipulator will often also expect an answer from you right away, to maximize their pressure and control over you in the situation. (Sales people call this “closing the deal.") During these moments, instead of responding to the manipulator’s request right away, consider leveraging time to your advantage, and distancing yourself from his or her immediate influence. You can exercise leadership over the situation simply by saying:
“I’ll think about it.”
Consider how powerful these few words are from a customer to a salesperson, or from a romantic prospect to an eager pursuer, or from you to a manipulator. Take the time you need to evaluate the pros and cons of a situation, and consider whether you want to negotiate a more equitable arrangement, or if you’re better off by saying “no,” which leads us to our next point:
6. Know How To Say “No”―Diplomatically But Firmly
To be able to say “no” diplomatically but firmly is to practice the art of communication. Effectively articulated, it allows you to stand your ground while maintaining a workable relationship. Remember that your fundamental human rights include the right to set your own priorities, the right to say “no” without feeling guilty, and the right to choose your own happy and healthy life. In (click on title) “How to Successfully Handle Manipulative People,” I review seven different ways you can say “no,” to help lower resistance and keep the peace.
7. Confront Bullies, Safely
A psychological manipulator also becomes a bully when he or she intimidates or harms another person.
The most important thing to keep in mind about bullies is that they pick on those whom they perceive as weaker, so as long as you remain passive and compliant, you make yourself a target. But many bullies are also cowards on the inside. When their targets begin to show backbone and stand up for their rights, the bully will often back down. This is true in schoolyards, as well as in domestic and office environments.
On an empathetic note, studies show that many bullies are victims of violence themselves. This in no way excuses bullying behavior, but may help you consider the bully in a more equanimous light:

• "When people don't like themselves very much, they have to make up for it. The classic bully was actually a victim first.”—Tom Hiddleston
• “Some people try to be tall by cutting off the heads of others.”—Paramhansa Yogananda
• “I realized that bullying never has to do with you. It's the bully who's insecure.” —Shay Mitchell

When confronting bullies, be sure to place yourself in a position where you can safely protect yourself, whether it’s standing tall on your own, having other people present to witness and support, or keeping a paper trail of the bully’s inappropriate behavior. In cases of physical, verbal, or emotional abuse, consult with counseling, legal, law enforcement, or administrative professionals. It’s important to stand up to bullies, and you don’t have to do it alone.
8. Set Consequences
When a psychological manipulator insists on violating your boundaries, and won’t take “no” for an answer, deploy consequence.
The ability to identify and assert consequence(s) is one of the most important skills you can use to "stand down" a difficult person. Effectively articulated, consequence gives pause to the manipulative individual, and compels her or him to shift from violation to respect. In my reference guide (click on title) “How to Successfully Handle Manipulative People,” consequence is presented as seven different types of power you can utilize to affect positive change.

[xerx]

One technique they may use is to constantly disagree with you and diminish your ideas / contributions. This could be done in a seemingly reasonable manner behind a façade of magnanimousness. The goal is to make you think that you're always wrong and that they're always right. The intent is to manufacture dependency and learned helplessness, which they can exploit.

Stay away from toxic environments where your contributions are always rejected.