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    The Chick and the beardy guy. Try to ignore their disgusting romantic bliss.

    She's definitely an introvert, IJ most likely. Not sure on him.

    Oh, and don't quote.

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    You are the guy, aren't you?

    The guy: ENTp

    The girl: Irish ancestry? SEE?
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    Enneagram: 7w6 "Enthusiast"
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1981slater View Post
    You are the guy, aren't you?
    wow, I wish :frown:

    eye/eyebrow region does look freakishly like me though.

    Quote Originally Posted by 1981slater View Post
    The guy: ENTp

    The girl: Irish ancestry? SEE?
    guy: maybe
    girl: yes irish, no way on SEE, she's IJ
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    I'm not really sure about my VI abilities, but my first impression was the guy being INFp and the girl being ISTj. I get mostly IxFp vibes from him and IxTj vibes from her.

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    whoa, pretty eyes!

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    Damn, that chick is super hot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banana Pancakes View Post
    She's definitely an introvert, IJ most likely.
    My first impression was Fe IP; ISFp > INFp.

    If IJ, then INFj.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

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    Girl is obvious INFj, no idea about the guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord View Post
    Girl is obvious INFj
    That'd be my best guess, too, actually. And yeah, the guy is hard to VI for some reason.
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    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Wow, that girl is absolutely gorgeous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by calenwen View Post
    Wow, that girl is absolutely gorgeous.
    really? I mean not that she is ugly but I do not see her standing out, like she would be above average, My ISFj mom always have certain kind of taste in people that is different from mine, and she thinks that I don't know how to "look" at people.
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    My reply: Oh I'm really romantic etc, I just will never take you out to dinner.

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    i doubt the girl is INFJ. I'd say INFP over that actually.
    The guy is maybe Alpha SF?
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    I say she is ISFj, She has the same style as calenwen!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    1)
    A girl who I want to date, asks me: well first tell me how tall you are?
    My reply: well I will answer that, if you first tell me how much you weigh!

    2)
    A girl I was dating said she was oh so great at sex etc, but she didn't do blowjobs.
    My reply: Oh I'm really romantic etc, I just will never take you out to dinner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 07490 View Post
    really? I mean not that she is ugly but I do not see her standing out, like she would be above average, My ISFj mom always have certain kind of taste in people that is different from mine, and she thinks that I don't know how to "look" at people.
    i know what you mean, actually.
    on the one hand i think she's GORGEOUS, on the other hand i don't think she has any particularly striking features.
    she's essentially like SUPER GOOD LOOKING girl next door, which most guys love.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritella View Post
    GOOD LOOKING girl next door,
    yea, one reason why I V.I her as an ISFj.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    1)
    A girl who I want to date, asks me: well first tell me how tall you are?
    My reply: well I will answer that, if you first tell me how much you weigh!

    2)
    A girl I was dating said she was oh so great at sex etc, but she didn't do blowjobs.
    My reply: Oh I'm really romantic etc, I just will never take you out to dinner.

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    I think the girl is Fi ego. I'm not sure on ISFj though.

    Still, she's very pretty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 07490 View Post
    really? I mean not that she is ugly but I do not see her standing out, like she would be above average, My ISFj mom always have certain kind of taste in people that is different from mine, and she thinks that I don't know how to "look" at people.
    Really? That's funny. I know that everyone has different tastes when it comes to looks, but it's still odd to me that everyone doesn't find this girl extremely beautiful.

    Diljs - not to sound super creepy, but were these pictures taken in Michigan? I think I recognize some stuff in the background in the pictures that were taken outdoors, lol.
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    I think the guy has top notch facial hair tho...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 07490 View Post
    I think the guy has top notch facial hair tho...
    on an excess of facial hair, haha.
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    heh heh Yeah, I'm in agreement on the beard thing. 'Bleh' to beards in general. He looks nice with a beard, though. It fits him. Some guys look really skanky in a beard.
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    To answer some questions:

    Yes, she is one of the most beautiful women I've ever met. It's natural too, she rarely wears makeup. If you don't think she's attractive I question your concept of beauty.

    They're from Texas, but I dunno they might be in Michigan in some of those.

    Beards make her horny, although she's a strict "saving it for marriage" type (soon to marry that guy). Pretty much her whole life has been plotting out her marriage and preparing to be the perfect wife. "If I don't get married in college I don't know what I'm going to do" - direct quote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banana Pancakes View Post
    Beards make her horny, although she's a strict "saving it for marriage" type (soon to marry that guy). Pretty much her whole life has been plotting out her marriage and preparing to be the perfect wife. "If I don't get married in college I don't know what I'm going to do" - direct quote.
    everything here made me cringe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banana Pancakes View Post
    To answer some questions:

    Yes, she is one of the most beautiful women I've ever met. It's natural too, she rarely wears makeup. If you don't think she's attractive I question your concept of beauty.

    They're from Texas, but I dunno they might be in Michigan in some of those.

    Beards make her horny, although she's a strict "saving it for marriage" type (soon to marry that guy). Pretty much her whole life has been plotting out her marriage and preparing to be the perfect wife. "If I don't get married in college I don't know what I'm going to do" - direct quote.
    Yeah, that's one of the reasons I was struck by how beautiful she is - you can tell that she is wearing hardly any, if any, makeup in those pictures.

    My IEI sister is the same way about wanting to get married. We have lots of arguments about it and I don't understand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimosa Pudica View Post
    Hmm... I agree with you numbers. The vibes I get are not the ones I'd get from someone "interesting". She feels very boring, and very ordinary, somehow. I'd not have noticed her in a room, I think. My guess is that means Delta, especially since so many of the Si/Fi-quadra guys seem to find her interesting, and she looks introverted, ethical and rational, so EII.

    The guy is difficult... He looks irrational, though, and I think he's intuitive.
    Probably Fe-valuing. ILE is a good guess.

    If so, she's his supervisor...
    I agree with all of this.

    So, type-wise....pretty eyed dude- ILE, girl- EII or ESI (yikes!)

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    The girl is NOT EII.
    I mean....she could be, but I'd be very very surprised.
    EIIs rarely have that flirty, subdued sexual look. If anything, they look mischevious.
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    No offense to any of you because I used to do it too before I learned this stuff, but just throwing out looney tune guesses at VI makes Socionics look stupid and impossible.

    That guy's a blatant ENFj and she's ISXj.

    (Part of the reason I'm doing the new type naming thingy is to help this forum out with this... I mean, there should be ZERO 'delta' guesses ITT... That there is says something about the state of affairs here, you know?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 07490 View Post
    My ISFj mom always have certain kind of taste in people that is different from mine, and she thinks that I don't know how to "look" at people.
    I might be inclined to agree with her. On the other hand though, I know how much you like me and how much you adore my sexy voice, so I"m not really sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by Banana Pancakes View Post
    Beards make her horny, although she's a strict "saving it for marriage" type (soon to marry that guy). Pretty much her whole life has been plotting out her marriage and preparing to be the perfect wife. "If I don't get married in college I don't know what I'm going to do" - direct quote.
    Ouch!
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    Quote Originally Posted by calenwen View Post
    Wow, that girl is absolutely gorgeous.


    Quote Originally Posted by calenwen View Post
    on an excess of facial hair, haha.
    +1

    Quote Originally Posted by calenwen View Post
    Yeah, that's one of the reasons I was struck by how beautiful she is - you can tell that she is wearing hardly any, if any, makeup in those pictures.
    +1

    Quote Originally Posted by calenwen View Post
    My IEI sister is the same way about wanting to get married. We have lots of arguments about it and I don't understand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimosa Pudica View Post
    Hmm... I agree with you numbers. The vibes I get are not the ones I'd get from someone "interesting". She feels very boring, and very ordinary, somehow. I'd not have noticed her in a room, I think. My guess is that means Delta, especially since so many of the Si/Fi-quadra guys seem to find her interesting, and she looks introverted, ethical and rational, so EII.

    The guy is difficult... He looks irrational, though, and I think he's intuitive.
    Probably Fe-valuing. ILE is a good guess.

    If so, she's his supervisor...
    lol, that's weird because I think she's absolutely gorgeous. I don't (or more like can't) make judgement on how interesting someone is until I talk to them. It is interesting how you and the other beta NFs I know talk about noticing some people and just 'not seeing' others in a room - I don't think I feel that, everyone is just there, you know?

    There's just something about how this girl photographs though - something that draws my attention to her immediately in each shot. Which is something of an achievement given her boy has the most gorgeous eyes! (On a side note: stubble is hot. Beard, not so much.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimosa Pudica View Post
    I thought everybody had this "feel" for people? Very interesting if it's an NF thing? For me, it's as if some people have more "gravity" in relation to me, somehow. At times, I don't even have to see a person, I just "feel" that he/she is in the room. People without this gravity can't be beautiful, lol.... (I know my views on "beauty" differ from the norm, yes.)
    Unefille talks about this all the time, and I'm just left going mrowr? O.o Because, um, no, I really don't perceive things that way. But it sounds cool, so hey. NF brain land is always a fun place to visit!
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    I do find her interesting, and more interesting than he is. It's the sultry look she creates, but it does seem like a "look," like beneath the sultry exterior I'm not sure what is inside. But the sort of "far off" feel of it seems to change what the world is (she would probably do well as a model). She somehow makes all the pictures look intriguing as if it's some forbidden love affair in Paris in a novel or something. And when I look at the rest of the picture, it's like the guy and the surroundings weren't clued in that they're supposed to transform into a scene in Vogue. It's almost amusing, what she does in the pictures, especially the fifth one. They don't seem to be in the same world, and she seems to be in her own world, a strange, indifferent, "I'm outside of all of it" world. Is this how she really is, just naturally? Or is she reflecting an element of culture that she is trying to emulate or re-create?

    I thought about maybe SEI for her. ? If not, Beta NF? LSI? Bla.

    For him I don't know... ILE? EIE? ESE?

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    His eyes are gorgeous. and he looks like a fun, Fe guy. I have no idea about her. She's attractive, they make a very nice-looking couple. and I like the facial hair.
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    he's an intp, just so everyone is clear, and she is incredibly obviously an isfj. badaching, next thread.
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    I never understood how people could be so confident in completely understanding a person's type through VI. While I agree some people look the part, something tells me "the part" is formed from subjective data from their own life experiences and the people they know that they think are a certain type. Something tells me we'd all type people in each other's lives completely different than what we ourselves have guessed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimosa Pudica View Post
    Well, your way is obviously the healthier and less opinionated way in this...

    I thought everybody had this "feel" for people? Very interesting if it's an NF thing? For me, it's as if some people have more "gravity" in relation to me, somehow. At times, I don't even have to see a person, I just "feel" that he/she is in the room. People without this gravity can't be beautiful, lol.... (I know my views on "beauty" differ from the norm, yes.)
    Interesting, an ENFj friend was trying to explain this to me a couple of days ago, and making 0 sense to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by look.to.the.sky View Post
    I never understood how people could be so confident in completely understanding a person's type through VI. While I agree some people look the part, something tells me "the part" is formed from subjective data from their own life experiences and the people they know that they think are a certain type. Something tells me we'd all type people in each other's lives completely different than what we ourselves have guessed.
    Oh I put little faith in VI skills, I'm pretty sure of her type and I was just curious to see who could get it close, and what the people with good guesses thought the guy was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banana Pancakes View Post
    Oh I put little faith in VI skills, I'm pretty sure of her type and I was just curious to see who could get it close, and what the people with good guesses thought the guy was.
    There is something to VI ... And it becomes easier to use/apply with practice. (That said, it took me literally years to learn it... And I still get it wrong sometimes, as there are red herrings.)

    I hope that VI will become easy for people to learn as we go through re-naming the types... I.e. that the process will teach people what to look for w/ VI, and typing people... Because if you see enough people of a certain type/subtype, it really starts to become clear. The eyes, facial features, carriage, etc.

    VI is what will make a lot of people here finally understand Socionics, and be able to use it in a meaningful, practical way.

    When one is good at it, one can ALMOST ALWAYS narrow down the VI subject's quadra--and from there it's relatively easy.

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    Maybe relating to what was mentioned before, I at first gave Vi some credit because I myself just read "vibes" from people and I can usually type them from said feelings, even if I'm not talking to them. I tend to immediately "type" (not socionics per se, but logging qualities of the person subconsciously) and then leave their type open and flexible for change. In actual practice, I'm not too far off from my "VI" offline, but when it comes to pictures, people tend to be so certain about types different from what I've perceived, and the only conclusion I've come to is that VI has little merit, and extremely little when it comes to pictures. I feel like in need to observe the person in the flesh to really get anything, I typically can tell if someone is Exxp/Exxj/Ixxp/Ixxj almost instantaneously, and then fill in from there. Sorry for the rant, I'm sure this has been said multiple times

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