Soccer managers

[1981slater]

My typings

Johan Cruyff ENTj Ni



Pep Guardiola ENTj Ni



Louis Van Gaal ENTp Ti



Frank Rijkaard INFp Fe



José Antonio Camacho ESTp Ti



Luis Aragonés ENFj



Sir Alex Ferguson ISTj Se



Arsene Wenger INTj



Guus Hiddink ENTp



Jose Mourinho ENTj



Fabio Capello ISTj



Bernd Schuster ISTp



Sir Bobby Robson ENTp

[Not A Communist Shill]

Sam Allardyce, manager of Blackburn Rovers - ISFj



Martin O'Neil, manager of Aston Villa - INTj or maybe INTp



I've been persuaded that Arsene Wenger is ENTj and Mourinho is ISTj, and Alex Ferguson could be ISTj but I think ESTp is also possible.

[tereg]

I'm shocked this thread is entitled "soccer" managers.

[ArchonAlarion]

those typings look pretty legit, slater.

[1981slater]

I've been persuaded that Arsene Wenger is ENTj and Mourinho is ISTj, and Alex Ferguson could be ISTj but I think ESTp is also possible.

I wasn't sure about Mourinho and Wenger. You could be right
I'm pretty sure Ferguson is an ISTj (conflicting relationship with David Beckham, ENFp)

[goggles]

Jose Mourinho, "The Special One":

He knows how to get the best out of his players and has achieved success with every team he has been to within a short amount of time. He is meticulous in preparation and planning which would suggest very strong or maybe even but his real strength as a manager lies in his ability to motivate his players, improve confidence and morale and foster belief in themselves and their abilities. He is typically revered by his players which to me would suggest an ethical type over a logical one and he can and does show aggression to players who he thinks are underachieving or not playing well eg. Mario Balotelli, Joe Cole, Robben, Karim Benzema and a once talented and then lazy and clumsy Adriano who was reduced to tears (I think he was - I remember a look of utter despair after Mourinho had taken him off and said several things to him) and forced out of Inter Milan and into a Brazilian club.

His tactics are mainly to stop the other team from playing football through physical pressure, numbers and hard work. He favors a pragmatic and sometimes boring style of attack over innovative or elaborate and attractive attacking football. He scores many of his goals through counter-attacks.

He looks like a isfj dominant subtype in his pictures and videos to me. His outspokenness and the way he keeps creating ripples everywhere he goes (don't isfj's hate doing that?) may suggest a different type as is his tactical and strategic superiority in world football.









Well at least he has the volitional pressure thing down. He looks a bit like Richard Hammond.

[1981slater]

He seems to get along well with players. But before becoming friends, he drives his players mad. I guess this implies creative Ni for Mou or sth?

I think that his pragmatic approach to football indicates he's Se/Ni. For him, winning -and not "playing"-is what matters. Result>Process

He has a bad relationship with Jorge Valdano (LIE).

His bad boy image tends to unsettle serious people. I guess that he's either EIE or LSI, but I don't know.

[1981slater]

I can see the young Mou as EIE-Ni







He worked as translator before becoming a coach, BTW

[MisterNi]

José Mourinho en 1988 - YouTube

I can see the young Mou as EIE-Ni

Mourinho VS Tito Vilanova! - YouTube

Mourinho - Mejores Momentos (Marca.com) - YouTube



He worked as translator before becoming a coach, BTW

I don't like VIing people, but in his case, he's a clearcut EIE.

[Trevor]

T>F seems like a good bet, imo

[Trevor]

click to 0:00 in the videos for a comparison with a real clearcut ENFj(Ni)

it's Kruno Jurčić (i think he deserves his five minutes of glory, overhere at the 16types.info, given his last night's glorious victory)

[Absurd]

[MisterNi]

T>F seems like a good bet, imo

So LIE moreso than EIE?

[Trevor]

So LIE moreso than EIE?

i don't know, we'll find out. yes

[MisterNi]

So LIE moreso than EIE?

i don't know, we'll find out. yes

I think slater's right. EIE.

[mu4]

EIE

Pep is delta or alpha, not sure if SLI or LII or EII or SEI, but some sort of introverted Si type.

Go Barca

[goggles]

I see a lot of happening wherever he goes and not that much (other than the as a direct result of his actions).

Did anyone watch the supercoppa between Real Madrid and Barca? Does anyone read his comments in the press?

His players back him wherever he goes and why? Did you see Materazzi (of all people) hugging Mourinho tearfully after his success at Inter Milan? Didier Drogba, Frank Lampard, Terry, Jose Mourinho is much more than just a great manager.

Many people on this forum equate with love and good/evil (as in, the ability to tell the difference between). But it also has to do with hate, envy, jealousy, greed etc. Why are SLE's described as "severe but just" (rarley motivated by hate etc. - because of their polr, can't be bothered by them/is confused by them and hidden agenda: wants everyone to love them) and ILE's as "benevolent" (same)?

Everywhere Jose Mourinho goes he stirs up some serious and as a consequence of it . Even the players change when they are around him - Casillas who has been described as prudent is now called "crazy" (that was from a news article I read so maybe not). Samuel Eto during Mourinho's tenure at Inter Milan was seen running back and helping out the defense (!!).

Most ISFJ's however tend to do what everyone else does so Jose Mourinho is unique in that respect.

EII: and . How I feel about it (hate it, love it) and then reflect on it (could be this, could be that...)

IEE: , . What could it be, maybe it is this, maybe it is that... followed by how I feel about it.

ESI: , - How I feel about it (good/bad, love/hate etc) and then doing something about it.

SEE: - Doing something (anything, just go out, start something, make something happen) followed by how I feel about it.

That's basically it but it gets much more complicated when the other functions come into play like Role and polr especially.

can be seen as superficial because it changes quickly (part of the reason why leading types are dynamic and are static). Basically, can be seen (crying, smiling etc.) and it has a lot to do with creating a pleasant or joyful mood (or an unpleasant one by whinging or whatever). Jose Mourinho controls the "mood" or "atmosphere" but still you rarely see him show too much ( ignoring, is good at it but can't really be bothered too much by it). types are usually perceived by others, initially anyway, as "friendly" or nice unless your polr is because their emotions are so visible and we can quickly identify with them. How many people think Mourinho is friendly or nice?

And Jose Mourinho is known for many things and one of them is his sense of fashion and style. polr's can be attractive (entj and enfj girls can be seriously sexy) but come on... if you're a guy and your polr is then you can't look that good without trying too hard. It's more normal for a guy to not try at all or to wear weird looking clothes to try and cover his deficiency in that area eg. David Bowie or a visitor I've had come over to my house - weird hair, funny clothes, snakeskin boots (!).

: Messing with the mood, atmosphere, right now, Laughter, crying, smiling.

: Messing with peoples wants, desires, love/hate (what they), over a period of time.

[mu4]

Fashion and style has to do with Fe more then Si, and more so because Si is a introverted function and fashion and style is most definitely a extroverted topic.

Mourhino is someone that wants to cause a reaction in his enemies and get them off their game, he doesn't really care if they like him or not. (Fi ignoring)

He however is good at keeping his own side loyal to him and this is a trait that he shares with other EIE's.

ISFjs are much more traditional and less wanting of attention. I don't really think Mourhino is a good Fi type.

[1981slater]

He's rather slim, although aggressive. Doesn't it sound EIEish?

[goggles]

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