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Type A Couple
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Last edited by Hays; 05-29-2011 at 11:26 PM.
So some info about this couple. These people have been family friends for ages..
Them raising kids:
The mother says she has the perfect kids and is all impressed by everything they do, only to a few hours later break down and tell us how far off track they are and have a huge drama about it all.
The father is very non-confrontational. his repsonses are like 'whatever' to any situation and shrugs his shoulders.
They follow my folks around the country when we move to wherever we move.
Dude INTj, lady ESTj?
I don't think the guy is INTj... does look XXTj though... ISTj and ESTj seem to make more sense than ENTj to me.
The lady seems F to me, that's the only clear part... she reminds me of my friend Missy... who is also very dramatic, upbeat one sec and crying the next... maybe intuitive? Not sure...
Lol I hate VI. Can you provide more information about them? Besides negative things, like lying about their family (the girl), being passive about decisions (the guy), or stalking following you everywhere you go, can you provide some positive information? What are they good at? What are their unique interests? Sports, hobbies, collections, goals in life, etc.?
Mmm, I'm going to have to go with ISTj for the guy. Ij temperament seems most common, especially with the phlegmatic nature of not caring, being passive.
For the lady, still unsure, but I'm going to have to guess ESFp. Seems most likely Ep temperament. Outward energy but somehow unfocused. ENFp seems like a good guess too... how well do they get along? .... Slight chance of the guy being ISTp, now that I think about it... hmmm..
More info please.
What meds?
Fi-creative for her using the 'closeness' between you and her whenever she wants?Originally Posted by Shayley
She and I have a bit of a hit and miss relationship - sometimes I enjoy catching up with her and other times it's so so and sometimes I think that we don't really like one another. I never know if it's because of her medications or what. We always let one another off things and catch up frequently.
It's like she wants a best friend or sister but I already have a best friend, that's my hubby and I already have 6 sisters and a sister in-law. So there are no real gaps and this ticks her off at times.
The only intuitive that I would consider for her is EIE but since she is so much aboutI rule that out.
She - Dreams of having her own home one day, living the good life, having everything that everyone else has, loves to buy people their favorite foods as a treat, is very open with others about her love life and likes to joke about, she has a depth to her and at times we have good conversations, is somewhat traditional in beliefs, she can usually take playful joking/teasing and give it back, enjoys regularity in her life - like church, clubs and meeting people on a regular basis, can be generous with words/promises but then wishes she hadn't made those promises, is quite skilled at expressing herself through facial expressions, loves Facebook and runs an online group there, enjoys having people over for bbq's.
He - likes reading about historical figures, has no desire to own a home unless it is the best house in the best street, has taught one of my daughters to drive and was very calm with her the whole time, he goes all silly with Monty Python like jokes and makes us smile because he finds it so entertaining, he becomes alive by talking about doom and gloom occurring in the world, he knows how to fix most practical problems but takes the most cost efficient route - not necessarily the best route, he is very calm with his children and very easy going on them which means his wife has to deal with guidance etc, he loves to eat sticky buns and this is an ongoing joke with him - who knows why...he also jokes a lot about his medicines being happy pills and pulls out the silliest biggest grins thinking it's hilarious, dislikes the supernatural.
Maybe they're Gamma SEE-LIE Activity?
He sounds upbeat but laid-back all the time, perhaps like ENTj, and the "cost efficient" route thing sounds very Te, and disliking the supernatural seems very Ne-unvalued.
Completely unsocionics related, I agree they sound a bit crazy.
Of course I'm biased, I know how annoying these people can be to you and your family.
Haha.
Haha Dew! I thought you were fast asleep!
Omg! I'm being stalked on multiple threads!!
Ok, this is my last post, I swear.
G'night Jinxi.
Lady doesn't look ethical, just miserable and fake.
ESFj and INTj. Just like my mom and dad.
I think (I read the descriptions, too) the lady may be ESE and the man SLI. By VI alone I'd have said ESE or LSI for her and ESI for him, so I was close
Though there is very little information to go by imo you might have a supervision chain going with this couple: IEI->ESE->SLI. These comments indicate that you may be her supervisor:
Guys... she's not ESFj. I don't see it. Don't be swayed by the 'EVERY MOM IN THE WORLD IS AN ESFj LIKE OMGGGG!!!!!111!!!' bias.I think (I read the descriptions, too) the lady may be ESE and the man SLI. By VI alone I'd have said ESE or LSI for her and ESI for him, so I was close
ESFjs are MUCH more outwardly focused than her, and much more varied in emotion. She actually seems emotionally subdued...
I really think that lady is the same type as my friend Missy. Here are some pics: (please don't quote, or I'll have a moderator remove, thanks)
*pictures removed on 5/28/2011*
Last edited by Snaps; 05-28-2011 at 10:02 PM.
I know. I kept this in mind. Emotionality in itself is actually not type related. She just doesn't seem to interact with people the same way I'd expect an ESE to.
Again, she reminds me through VI a LOT like my friend Missy, what do you think? Missy is also very dramatic, everything you described about your friend could describe her too. She's also very hands-on, likes caring for animals, and wants to help others. And just enjoys relaxing.
I'd even throw out a guess of either ISFp or ISTp at this point. Was never sure what type Missy was, maybe this thread will mutually help us both.
That's not the case, where did you get that? I based my reasoning on that description and also the overall appearance. And btw, I recalled some things and I would include LSE for her, too. But nothing else, say what you want
(and also your Missy looks more SEI than ESE, get over it)
On the description which included a lot of mom-related activities, which tends to make people think ESE.
Get over what? I didn't say she was ESE. Thanks for the vote for SEI though. Maybe the lady is SEI too.And btw, I recalled some things and I would include LSE for her, too. But nothing else, say what you want
(and also your Missy looks more SEI than ESE, get over it)
So mutually, I guess we both agree that the lady is either Alpha SF or Delta ST. Basically Si Ego.
Please tell me a website where I can upload a picture and be able to delete it, which actually works (not Photobucket). I got one who looks very much like your girl, confirmed SEI by the guy who sent me the picture for test purposes.
Oh, I get it, but I actually analzyed her reactions and it was also that fact that once praises her children and the other time she blames them (or whatever) which doesn't appear too gentle
I guess so, yeah. The idea is that I kinda exclude her being Ip - so I stay at XSE as much as I exclude your girl to be Ej - as much as I can tell, of course.
(and don't get mad on me, but I don't see them similar, maybe I don't know what to look at)
Try out Flickr, Zooomr, or Picasa Web Albums.
Ah, gotcha. Well they don't seem *quite* the same visually, but I wonder if that's related to age, different country (Australia versus US), and health, ok versus on meds.Oh, I get it, but I actually analzyed her reactions and it was also that fact that once praises her children and the other time she blames them (or whatever) which doesn't appear too gentle
I guess so, yeah. The idea is that I kinda exclude her being Ip - so I stay at XSE as much as I exclude your girl to be Ej - as much as I can tell, of course.
(and don't get mad on me, but I don't see them similar, maybe I don't know what to look at)
Just from the pictures, she reminded me of the same way Missy would interact with people. Especially with the hugging, facial expressions, etc. So I stick by what I said. Agree to disagree.
Here's that SEI.
Edit: I can't see the image, if you can't too quote the post and copy the link in your browser.
No problem, I'll just post it for ya via photobucket.Gimme a sec.
*picture removed on 5/28/2011*
Last edited by Snaps; 05-28-2011 at 10:02 PM.
... that girl actually reminds me more of my friend Amber.... DAMMIT, now I'm going to have to post more pictures.
NOT ENOUGH TIME TO WASTE ON 16TYPES!!!
Thanks for uploadind that. Post a link when you make that thread.... that girl actually reminds me more of my friend Amber.... DAMMIT, now I'm going to have to post more pictures.
FTR: my friend said that guy is ILI (I VI'ed him Alpha NT IIRC).
No problem! VI these girls
Okay, now I'm convinced the OP woman is ESE.
Everything she is interested about is joy, passion, thrill, exaltation - especially that God stuff. I know ESEs similarly obsessed by an idea (ideal), doing everything with that in mind - eg one is with stuff like "The Secret" & wolfberries to live forever
"You dont need to spend big to look your best" - did you interviewed my mom?
I agree with an ExFj typing for the woman, but ENFj seems to be more probable than ESFj on the basis of VI. Given your description, it seems fairly certain that she is an extrovert with Fe in her ego block, and I would be inclined to believe that she is an ESFj. However, she does not look like any ESFjs that I've seen; indeed, in the first picture of her alone, she seems very Ni/Se-valuing. Of course, I could easily be mistaken; I can't even discern any clear Fe in any of the pictures, even though she is ostensibly Fe-dominant. Nonetheless, laziness is not the sole preserve of Si-valuers, and I've observed religious fanaticism in Ni-valuers more often than Ne-valuers, so nothing in the description precludes ENFj from being a possibility.
Socionics intertype relations aren't that strict (if they were, socionics would be have been employed every place where human relations come into play and somebody would be making big $$ off it). I've met super-egos and supervisees with whom I've gotten along, even a few conflictors who I thought were pleasant people in conversation. This is reason why I don't use my own sentiments towards a person when determining their type, there are just too many outside factors interfering that can turn attractive relations into repulsive relations and vice versa.
Last edited by silke; 05-22-2011 at 08:05 AM. Reason: typo
just wanted to add into the thread that this lady who i had coffee with this morning and talked socionics with, (i am shayley's daughter by the way, not just a random who dodesnt know these ppl lol) self-typed her hidden agenda as ESFj/ESTj to be perfect. She chose for her husband in regards to hidden agenda, ISTp/INTp to love. In the past, she sat a socionics test and came out ESFx.
She tries to compete with shayley over things she views in shayleys life as perfect and has trouble with jealousy in this area, which for the first time she actually admitted it to shayley and myself this morning. She said that she thinks shayley has the perfect life, which she wants for herself, but admitted that shayley does not value this, and think it as important like she does. I think she is ESFj. Not sure on her husband. In my mind he is ISTx. Could see the to believe hidden agenda play out in him regarding church etc, but can also see ISTp's to love.
This Frog runs on Sugar!
Thank you! I'm sure she'd appreciate that. And yes, I think SEI may make a lot of sense for her.
Maybe she is ESFj, albeit a very unhealthy one! Admitting her jealous is a huge step though. And that's excellent that she's interested in socionics!
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