i know what you meanOriginally Posted by Timeless
also weird timing, i was just listening to them as i was revisiting my azn girl bands thread on socionix.
After concentrating real hard trying to stay focused, looking at other clips and after a few reads, this is what I think:
Taeyeon:-ILE/ENTp
EP + Infantile.
Comes across as more-HA as in wanting a reaction vs. producing one.
More random.
Playfulremarks.
Democratic leadership style.
Sunny:
EJ + Caregiver.
More outspoken.
Blunt, yet playful.
Yoona:
IP + Caregiver.
She has that characteristic "swallow air like a fish" look in a lot of pictures.
Sooyoung:-SEI/ISFp
IP + Caregiver.
Describes a lot of physical experiences in detail.
Does voice impressions.
Tiffany:
IP + Caregiver.
A Jessica clone.
Jessica:
IP + Caregiver.
A Tiffany clone.
Also has the "swallow air like a fish" look in a lot of pictures.
Yuri:
IP + Caregiver.
Does voice modulations.
Sleeping habit.
Plays pranks and jokes on others.
Hyoyeon:
EJ + Caregiver.
Playful displays of.
Similar to Sunny.
Seohyun:
IP + Caregiver.
Very similar to Yuri.
"Slow in conversation, and they can slightly stretch out their words" is obvious.
Shys away from the spotlight.
Soft spoken.
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What do you think?
They all look the same.
Wow. Didn't expect to see a thread exclusively on SNSD to be here.So when's Super Junior's thread is coming up?
Just a personal observation in real life, quite a number of Alpha and Delta types I have known irl tend to be interested in male / female idol singers or groups, probably because those who are selected for these groups tend to belong to these two quadras.
The songs they have made tend to be cheesy to some of my friends, but I can't help listening to it.
She's my favorite. Second in line would be Hyo Yeon.I vote Sooyoung.
I tend to agree with your typings so far, just that I have a different opinion for the following:After concentrating real hard trying to stay focused, looking at other clips and after a few reads, this is what I think:
Taeyeon:
EP + Infantile.
Comes across as more
More random.
Playful
Democratic leadership style.
Sunny:
EJ + Caregiver.
More outspoken.
Blunt, yet playful.
Yoona:
IP + Caregiver.
She has that characteristic "swallow air like a fish" look in a lot of pictures.
Sooyoung:
IP + Caregiver.
Describes a lot of physical experiences in detail.
Does voice impressions.
Tiffany:
IP + Caregiver.
A Jessica clone.
Jessica:
IP + Caregiver.
A Tiffany clone.
Also has the "swallow air like a fish" look in a lot of pictures.
Yuri:
IP + Caregiver.
Does voice modulations.
Sleeping habit.
Plays pranks and jokes on others.
Hyoyeon:
EJ + Caregiver.
Playful displays of
Similar to Sunny.
Seohyun:
IP + Caregiver.
Very similar to Yuri.
"Slow in conversation, and they can slightly stretch out their words" is obvious.
Shys away from the spotlight.
Soft spoken.
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What do you think?
Yoona: Si-ISFp
She tends to give others a calming effect and doesn't seem as emotionally effusive as the Fe subtypes I have known irl. In my opinion (not type related btw), she seems like a rather political person to a certain extent. She can be rather adept in showing the best of herself and does not reveal her true sentiments that easily. In addition, she appears to be rather capable in getting the exact response which she wants from others, which I find Alpha SFs to be quite capable of doing.
Soo Young: Delta NF
She doesn't seem like a competitive person imo, and she tends to do enough to get by. Unlike the other members, she doesn't go beyond her normal duties in SNSD. She could have engaged in other gigs such as having a solo single, appearing in variety shows on her own, act in dramas, but she didn't. She appears rather contented to get by as long as she has performed her main duties and seems to care more about work-life balance. In her TV appearances, she strikes as someone who is rather innocent, sophisticated, kind and gentle. She has shown attributes of an Alpha or Delta type, but she appears to value Fi more than Fe imo.
As for Seo Hyun been an Si-ISFp, it reminded me of how an Ne-ENFp guy friend of mine had a major crush on her. lol.
it's sooyoung ,eunice.
she could be LSE (not ESE), imo.
i noticed her humor in that video made fun of others' lack of ability and competence - i think this shows a Te focus on her part.
she is essentially saying to Yuri: "Do a better job!"Hyoyeon: Yuri! Yuri!
Yuri: Yeah?
Hyoyeon: These days, you sing a lot in the car. Yeah?
Yuri: *nods*
Hyoyeon: You call that singing?! You're a singer! You always go off-tune!
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yawn
seriously ,i can't even (bother) tell(ing) them apart .They seem as if they are totally directed through the same remote control.yeah this is the case with a shitload of female popgroups but it's easier to digest when they are not azns.
I find them much easier to digest when they are asians. I can enjoy the poppy goodness of the music without having to understand to the girlie lyrics. Their chattering asian voices just become the main instrument.
Are you referring to the last paragraph of my previous post:
I was referring to another member, Seo Hyun, in the last paragraph of my previous post
She seems rather Alpha SF imo. At times, she reminded me of Song Hye Gyo, who's an Si-ISFp. Nevertheless, having seen the interviews of both ladies, it is rather obvious to me that Hyo Yeon is an extravert and Song Hye Gyo's an introvert. Just a side note, Ashton used to create a thread on Song Hye Gyo in Socionix and thought that she seems INFj.
Anyway, here's a comparision between the two ladies and their similarities:
I have a hard time seeing
Looks like total
I agree on the calming effect, andYoona: Si-ISFp
She tends to give others a calming effect and doesn't seem as emotionally effusive as the Fe subtypes I have known irl. In my opinion (not type related btw), she seems like a rather political person to a certain extent. She can be rather adept in showing the best of herself and does not reveal her true sentiments that easily.
That still sounds likeIn addition, she appears to be rather capable in getting the exact response which she wants from others, which I find Alpha SFs to be quite capable of doing.
Whatever subtype she is, even though I think
When I typed them, I spent a bit more time with her because she does comes across a bit differently then everybody else. I know she is an irrational XXXp for sure also. Temperament-wise she gives off an IP vibe; unhurried (so visible on the first video) almost sluggish, relaxed. If she was an EP (considering if she was ENFp), she'd be more antsy like Taeyeon. Her movements are characteristically gentle like an SEI/ISFp, or to be more precise, just like Seohyun.Soo Young: Delta NF
She doesn't seem like a competitive person imo, and she tends to do enough to get by. Unlike the other members, she doesn't go beyond her normal duties in SNSD. She could have engaged in other gigs such as having a solo single, appearing in variety shows on her own, act in dramas, but she didn't. She appears rather contented to get by as long as she has performed her main duties and seems to care more about work-life balance. In her TV appearances, she strikes as someone who is rather innocent, sophisticated, kind and gentle. She has shown attributes of an Alpha or Delta type, but she appears to value Fi more than Fe imo.
That all looks like
Irrationality can be seen a mile away here:
Just for the fun of it:
0:30 made me crack the fuck up. It's adorable.
I think she is the epitome of anAs for Seo Hyun been an Si-ISFp, it reminded me of how an Ne-ENFp guy friend of mine had a major crush on her. lol.
Just to add on, I feel that Hyo Yeon's remark seems more like a playful banter with Yuri. If it's an ESTj who mentioned that, I guess it will sound more "offensive".
@ timeless: Good videos on Soo Young. To a certain extent, I am now convinced on how she could be Si-ISFp. I definitely agree that she seems XXXp, that's why I suggested that she seems ?-ENFp to me during our PM exchange. As for why Delta > Alpha, she seems to lack Fe as compared to the ISFps I have known irl. In addition, she appeared rather straightforward during her interactions with others and did not try too hard to please people, as compared to the ISFps I have known irl. She has this "live and let live" attitude which I identify with the Delta types I have known so far.
that's the thing, to me, it *did* sound offensive and not really all that playful. it kind of scared me, tbqh
also, i am familiar with Song Hyegyo but i don't have an opinion on her type. though i will say that she does remind me somewhat of my sister, whom i type SLI (for a long while i typed my sister SEI, up until recently)
if we're talking about VI, i was most struck by this picture. i think it's a very typical expression for an LSE: http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/7...10asia1do6.jpg
in this video, her main thing is showing off her skill, her knowledge, her abilities. she also did this in the first video you posted. i don't think she displays enthusiasm so much as she displays active energy, being in motion, wanting to be doing something. when she's showing off her dancing skills, i get the impression that her main purpose is to show her methods and how well she can do it, not as much to entertain (though of course i realize entertainment is the purpose of those variety shows.) i think cares about Te before Fe.I have a hard time seeing
YouTube - Why i love SNSD's HyoYeon part 2
Looks like total
also, it is her job to be a cute pop idolher laughing and smiling doesn't automatically mean she's Fe ego.
and even though i'm thinking she's my Conflictor, i don't dislike Hyoyeon or anything like that. while one or a couple of the SNSD members seem fake-ish to me, there is something "real" and down-to-earth about Hyoyeon.
Last edited by glam; 02-11-2011 at 11:53 PM.
I like her too and she seems different as compared to most members. Anyway, I find celebrities in the East rather hard to type at times because they tend to be less upfront with their true feelings and opinions, as compared to their western counterparts. Maybe it's due to the East Asian culture.that's the thing, to me, it *did* sound offensive and not really all that playful. it kind of scared me, tbqh
also, i am familiar with Song Hyegyo but i don't have an opinion on her type. though i will say that she does remind me somewhat of my sister, whom i type SLI (for a long while i typed my sister SEI, up until recently)
if we're talking about VI, i was most struck by this picture. i think it's a very typical expression for an LSE: http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/7...10asia1do6.jpg
in this video, her main thing is showing off her skill, her knowledge, her abilities. she also did this in the first video you posted. i don't think she displays enthusiasm so much as she displays active energy, being in motion, wanting to be doing something. when she's showing off her dancing skills, i get the impression that her main purpose is to show her methods and how well she can do it, not as much to entertain (though of course i realize entertainment is the purpose of those variety shows.) i think cares about Te before Fe.
also, it is her job to be a cute pop idol
and even though i'm thinking she's my Conflictor, i don't dislike Hyoyeon or anything like that. while one or a couple of the SNSD members seem fake-ish to me, there is something "real" and down-to-earth about Hyoyeon.
Dear Sir CILi,Dear Mr. Timeless,
Do you have the glasses?
I have no the glasses.
~ CILi
Kind regards,
Timeless
If what you're looking for is similarity (presents a level of consistency) then yes they do look all the same, but if you're looking for differences, then no they don't.They all look the same.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
And what types do you think they are mister sister?If what you're looking for is similarity (presents a level of consistency) then yes they do look all the same, but if you're looking for differences, then no they don't.
I think LSI look for similarity/consistency. Mister...I think that differences are better perceived by LII.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I mean for the OP.
I can't type based on those pictures.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
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