Beebe Model: combining Transactional Analysis and MBTI

[Ali]

It uses transactional analysis and mbti to create a system of interrelations, so to speak

http://www.infj.com/BeebeOnINFJs.htm

..a modified version
http://www.infj.com/BerensOnBeebe.htm


Any thoughts?

[Phaedrus]

It uses transactional analysis and mbti to create a system of interrelations, so to speak

http://www.infj.com/BeebeOnINFJs.htm

..a modified version
http://www.infj.com/BerensOnBeebe.htm


Any thoughts?

Basically, the theory is total crap, because it is based on the false assumption that the leading functions of the introverted rational (judging) types are Ni or Si when the real truth is that they are Fi or Ti. The ESTP really is the opposite of the INFJ, and the leading function of the INFJ is not Ni but Fi -- in both Socionics and MBTT. The ordering of the functions in MBTT must be changed to correspond to Jung's original type descriptions and the Socionics model. That requires some modifications of how the functions are described too, but that can be done -- and it should be done.

The INFJ is not an introverted intuitive type in Jung's sense, and neither is the INTJ such a type. The introverted intuitive types are the INFP and the INTP. This truth must be understood and accepted by all parts before any further progress can be made.

[Ali]

because it is based on the false assumption that the leading functions of the introverted rational (judging) types are Ni or Si

what do you think of the General idea of assigning functions to the transactional model ? Infact, although i may not have quite read or understood the crosstype(dualtype?) theory, but perhaps, that could be considered in relation to the transactional model ego states and a comparison be made.

http://www.businessballs.com/transactionalanalysis.htm

as a hypotheses, unlike the two types in the master-slave model, we could have the type, its dual, and its contrary..hmm.
(yes im hypothising? blindly)

[redbaron]

Basically, the theory is total crap, because it is based on the false assumption that the leading functions of the introverted rational (judging) types are Ni or Si when the real truth is that they are Fi or Ti. The ESTP really is the opposite of the INFJ, and the leading function of the INFJ is not Ni but Fi -- in both Socionics and MBTT. The ordering of the functions in MBTT must be changed to correspond to Jung's original type descriptions and the Socionics model. That requires some modifications of how the functions are described too, but that can be done -- and it should be done.

The INFJ is not an introverted intuitive type in Jung's sense, and neither is the INTJ such a type. The introverted intuitive types are the INFP and the INTP. This truth must be understood and accepted by all parts before any further progress can be made.

yeah, that's what I was thinking too.