LIE (Nate) ESI (Elena) from the uncharted series.
the clips of elena and nate end once he gets on the train, so don't waste your time.
There's tons of videos, just youtube "nate and elena" from the uncharted series. Nate is LIE, Elena is ESI, I think Chloe might be his semidual or something. Idunno.
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Yeah, they have the same facial expression as me.
behold:
yeeaaaaahhhh.... just ignore my posts in this topic please.
Ahna O'Reilly and James Franco were a pair. Though they're not together anymore.
She's ENTJ and he's ISFJ, I think.
A short clip with them both:
An interview with her:
An interview with him:
Ohhhhh and from reality TV, Vienna Girardi and Jake Pavelka. She's ENTJ he's ISFJ.
None of these couples ended up staying together though :(
I'm guessing part of why there isn't a lot of media of this pair is because they tend to be relatively conservative/private about their personal lives.
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Ill be posting some pictures of me and my LIE soon.
Jean Luc Godard (ESI) and Anne Marie Mieville (LIE?)
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Are you a godard fan? I tried to watch a couple of his movies last year. Quite liked A Woman is a Woman :) Though I admit that my enthusiasm waned after Two or Three Things I Know About Her.
Yeah. I watched a lot of his filmography out of habit though. I wouldn't say I enjoy them that much although there are some interesting aspects to a lot of them. I think he picks up bit during the 80s (Prenom Carmen, Hail Mary,mand I've heard 'Sauve Qui Peut' is good).Are you a godard fan? I tried to watch a couple of his movies last year. Quite liked A Woman is a Woman
Interesting, thanks
Wikisocion is mistaken. Woodward is LIE. Newman is obviously ESI. Just take a look at some of their pictures together. She's extroverted and there is one where she's holding him on a couch, with a look that says, "Touch him and I'll kill you." You won't find ILI's doing that, because the SEE is making the relationship decisions there.
I agree with Adam. Woodward is not introverted.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phrenology
An optimist - does not get discouraged under any circumstances. Life upheavals and stressful events only toughen him and make more confident. He likes to laugh and entertain people. Enters contact with someone by involving him with a humorous remark. His humor is often sly and contain hints and double meanings. Easily enters into arguments and bets, especially if he is challenged. When arguing his points is often ironic, ridicules the views of his opponent. His irritability and hot temper may be unpleasant to others. However, he himself is not perceptive of this and believes that he is simply exchanging opinions.
http://www.wikisocion.net/en/index.php?title=LIE_Profile_by_Gulenko
Fe is noticeably more uncomfortable for ILI types
None of the couples that I have seen in this thread particularly strikes me as a LIE-ESI dual pair. I think this is one of the rarest dualities to ever occur naturally IRL.
Well, there aren't that many LIE's to begin with. And most ESI's seem to prefer ILI's.
They usually first go for SLE's (they seem to find them attractive) but after realize that they are not good for them, and settle for an SLI or an LSE.
SLI-ESI couple:
(Josh Brolin and Diane Lane)
This is actually a good question. I know a lot of LIE’s IRL and only one of them is married to an ESI. Actually, another one might be, but he is fond of drinking while his pregnant wife stays home, so the effective number might still be one.
I’ve read it might be that “results” types (as opposed to “process” types) have a hard time staying together, but IDK.
Since I discovered socionics, I’ve been interacting more with ESI’s, with an eye toward dating them. So far, I’ve had mixed luck, but that is to be expected for any dating pair.
Maybe Talanov will take up this question.
I keep reading in wikisocion articles that LIE don't know how people feel about them and are sensitive to it. If Expat gets a lot of signals that his ISFj coworker appreciates him, he doesn't have to worry about but can feel safe in the relationship and merely reminded and understood, not judged. I have been in both situations. Also, if a LIE hasn't had ESI support in a while but been around a lot of SLIs or EII, they might feel more worried about what the ESI says because of echoes in their own mind.
I think they're drawn to ILIs but I've always seen them respond to me as though we fit better than they do with the ILIs they seem comfortable with. The activity partnership seems less scary to start. There's more reassurance, and it seems like there is less to lose.
I think I’ve seen this myself.
I have a good ILI friend who is married to an ESI-Se. We visit each other and go on trips together, and she and I get along very easily. I sometimes catch her just watching me quietly.
I also sometimes stay at a hotel which is run by a male ILI and his ESI wife, and she does the same thing.
I am friends with an ILI department chairman who has an ESI-Fi secretary, and I’ve caught her glancing my way in that Fi way they have. Actually, it is not so much “glancing” as it is tracking you deadly while not speaking and trying not to be obvious about it.
But note; every one of these women is first and primarily with an ILI.
I find that ESIs are attracted to people who have lifestyles and behaviour that closely pattern their preconceived internal ideals; these ideals are very diverse among ESIs but they're usually set in concrete but often kept hidden. They may settle for less but seem to keep searching for their ideals; and if found, they may stay loyal their current partner but their expressions of dissatisfaction and unhappiness seem to grow - as if they're trying to give their partners a reason to leave.
a.k.a. I/O
Very interesting, @Rebelondeck.
If everyone’s strategy in life is oriented to most effectively influence their duals, then I’d say that “expressing dissatisfaction and unhappiness” to “give their partners a reason to leave” works for me.
In fact, I think this would work on any of the LIE’s whom I know. Assuming, of course, that they valued that person’s opinion. An LIE can initially value someone’s opinion, but that is not guaranteed to last forever.
The way I’ve seen LIE’s work is they will initially give a person nearly unlimited credit and will then sit back and see what that person does with it. If they build on it, then they get even more. If they piss it away, well, there are lots of other opportunities out there. No need to pour money down a rat hole.
Finally a standard LIE ESI video, congratulations SOL
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
That ESI seems as some more than average emotionally expressive and impulsive. Not a common phlegmatic and traditionalist. I suspect an inclinication to ADHD at her.
Must be put in Lager Siberia for 4 months
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
Ye, may to help. No one knows what anti-freeze grasses they add to borsch in Siberia.
about Newman and woodward: "Newman, on the other hand, was charmed by the beautiful blonde from Thomasville, Georgia. "She was modern and independent, whereas I was shy and a bit conservative. It took me a long time to persuade her that I wasn't as dull as I looked," Shawn Levy quotes him in Paul Newman: A Life."
https://www.countryliving.com/life/i...rd-love-story/
they sound very much LIE+ESI to me
WHY IS THIS NO LONGER AVAILABLE?!
the clips work still
they parted. had no serious/long relations, as I understand. the girl is some uncommon for ESI
he has moved to Kiev to live (from the town near Saint Petersburg). she seems has prefered a dude with higher income, besides possible other reasons
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I still couldn't view
But thanks for being responsive
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