I think I've done this thread before, write a short description of how each type comes across to you, including your own.
How you view other types...
I think I've done this thread before, write a short description of how each type comes across to you, including your own.
Years ago, I did this for wikisocion. I should make a new list. A comparison could be interesting.
These are general, there are plenty of exceptions I can think of to all of this...
ILE--initially they are sometimes obnoxious/strange, adventurous, sometimes immediately attractive, sharp/funny/powerful, "i feel safe around you"
LII--awkward, adorable, beautiful minds (yes, I take aesthetic pleasure in an LII's mind), likes to see potential in others, sometimes passive-aggressive/overly rigid
ESE--"I could get along with you!" "where do you get your energy and why the hell are you so neurotic"
SEI--i don't know many
SLE--"i feel comfortable and protected around you," humorous/capable/attractive, outrageous in a good way
LSI--"i want to make you laugh," extremely capable/perfectionist/admirable but also rigid, sometimes lacking in a certain kind of imagination
EIE--very charming, capable, inspiring, go-getter, optimistic; sometimes ludicrous and/or abrasive; sometimes ridiculously dressed
IEI--"let's be friends!!!" smart/interesting/charming/dark-humored/good at having adventures; in need of a forceful presence; beautiful conversationalists; sometimes extremely bitchy
LIE--"you're hot," smart/sharp/together, perfectly oiled minds, sometimes abrasive and/or hurtful to others without realizing
ILI--"i respect you but i want to keep away," "you're not laughing at my jokes," i really am intrigued by the way they think about the world but something about them makes me keep my distance
SEE--there are two types for me. the first, i find manipulative and i want to stay my distance. the other, i find to be really good people, a little bawdy, and though we don't agree on many things i like and respect them.
ESI--perfectionist/rigid/traditional/judgmental, good art/fashion sense, a good person to have "on your side"
LSE--powerful/attractive/capable, quirky and likable but also too quick to condemn people they don't understand, sometimes manipulative in how they get people to do things (why can't they be more straightforward like the SLE?)
SLI--"i can get along with you," good cooking buddy/camping buddy/museum buddy, really calmly capable, really reliable/good to their friends, sometimes oblivious about relationships and emotions and too stringent about morals that they don't fully understand
IEE--"you're hot," adventurous/charming/interesting/imaginative,"nice" but often manipulative, sometimes anti-awkwardness to the point that they side-step important conversations, annoying in how they shut down Fe once their Ne lures it out
EII--attractive, imaginative/brilliant/kind, sometimes too abstract in their thought process, sometimes judgmental, sometimes tries to save entire groups of people who don't want or need to be saved
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ILE - At their best; loads of fun, charming, and unpredictable. At their worst; arrogant, stuffy, senseless, rigid, and chaotic in a manner I just don't get. Played music with a few; worked nice at first, blew apart at the seams violently in one case, and harmlessly and instantly in another.
SEI - Friendly, likeable, also loads of fun at times, and extremely confusing. I can't get them to focus, and they seem completely opposed to the entire notion. Nice to be around, though draining and bewildering if it goes on too long. Generally the loudest IP type, and by a very large margin.
ESE - Friendly, rigid, a bit of a "big brother/sister" vibe at times. My experiences here are limited...
LII - A bit on the goofy side. Often seem nervous around me, and I don't know how to fix it. I'm glad they get to write things so their ideas get out. A friend of mine in elementary school was Ne-LII and had the oddest sense of humor of anyone I know haha...
EIE - Really charismatic. Melodramatic in a way that I like a lot for some reason. Excellent conversations with them, feel like we can talk about everything...
LSI - A bit stiff and distant at first, but once we get to know each other, really fiery, lively, wild sense of humor! I feel a bit dumb around them from time to time...
SLE - We have great times together! Turns into a brofest of perpetually escalating volume and vulgarity if everything goes right, stopped only by "what the hell" moments at what the other person said, time restraints, or exhaustion.
IEI - I could listen to them all day. Incredibly smart. I have a few Ni-IEI buddies, and I'm glad I can hear them out when hardly anyone else does. We light a fire under each others' asses, and seem to be amazed by each other somehow...
SEE - Energetic! We get on great, and we can talk great with each other. We're horrible at keeping in touch though...
ILI - I could listen to them all day as well, and also, incredibly smart. I get more details to work with when we talk than with IEIs. I always end up doing things for/with them for some reason and taking on the projects as if they were my own; things just work when we're around...
LIE - Another brofest here! We usually motivate the shit out of each other, get in really in-depth and detail-heavy discussions and don't give a damn about anyone else in the area's general disinterest. Lots of the time we end up as workout buddies, and they tend to love my cooking.
ESI - Warm and fiery, kinda tend to jab and snap a bit, in a sense, which I find likeable and sometimes funny. Sometimes seem mad at me for reasons I can't quite comprehend, which I usually laugh off or something...
LSE - Friendly, dry, non-committally sarcastic; often seem like vast repositories of purposely disconnected information. Our musical tastes are usually extremely compatible half the way, and extremely incompatible the other half of the way.
EII - Timid, outwardly calm, though I expect them to explode at any given second. Once again, my experiences here are limited...
IEE - Friendly, jittery, nearly impossible to motivate, nearly impossible to comprehend. Burned too many times in relations with them across the board, and I get the impression they're never really happy around me...
SLI - Eccentric, likeable, a bit distant. Totally seem to do their own thing. We're a bit clumsy in conversations, but we like each other just fine...
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ILE: Clever and entertaining but usually difficult to understand or befriend.
LII: Gets lost (in thought), barely speaks until the right topic is mentioned, and has a wild imagination that's usually hiding.
ESE: Enthusiastic and all-inclusive but sometimes annoyingly controlling. Good people, but extended company is tiresome.
SEI: Goofy, pleasure-loving teddy bears that play Barney songs when you press their belly button.
SLE: Evil. They're out to rule the world. Please stop them.
LSI: Robotic. They won't say "Hi" until you do. Smart people.
EIE: Great leaders who like mysticism and aren't good artists. They also tend to have little mustaches.
IEI: Generally attractive but have totally skewed perceptions of reality.
LIE: Ruthless businessmen who don't understand how disgusting tofu is.
ILI: Witty, shrewd procrastinators.
SEE: The kind of people who would make good trainers. Pushy without being rude.
ESI: Sarcastic sense of humor and unpredictable feelings.
LSE: Sensible, very dependable people and easy to understand.
SLI: Sensible but quirky. Not very social but reliable if you're a friend.
IEE: Very friendly, generally wishy-washy, often goofy, and need to stop taking everything personally.
EII: Very nice people. Pleasant company and generally fun. Just easy to get along with.
Originally Posted by lemontrees
This is going to be half-serious but I don't want to have anything in common with them. Except my own stable of course.
Lol some of those r hilarious ^^ more please! I want to come back to this thread when i've got more experience w/ all the types and maybe even subtypes.
ILE: too absorbed with ideas, need to be more affectionate
SEI: gorgeous, outrageously sexy, really be interested in the stuff that interest them and not others, if it doesn't interest them it doesn't interest them, attached to material and finer things, nice clothing and nice house, works hard and feels working hard is a reward, "I worked and bought this with my own money and going to enjoy this; not much overt affection with people, unlike me; maintains more of a friendship looking relations. Not very introspective, don't have a lot of self awareness and don't seem understand themselves well, because they are sensory types, they are not really geared towards life of the mind; are you alright would yield a response "of course I am, I have a nice car, I have a nice house."
ESE: gorgeous, outrageously, arrogant, sense of superiority, intelligent and lords it over people, funny, thinks and knows he's funny, laughs at his own jokes, willing to listen to other's arguments let them talk but isn't willing to be persuaded by others
LII: thinkers
SLE: impulsive, too much about fun, straight forward to the point of being socially improper
IEI: sweet, victims,
EIE: sweet, kind, thoughtful, kinda antisocial, very good at textile arts and decorating.
LSI: antisocial, arrogant, smug, too much about the details
SEE: Inconsistent, not confident, insecure.
Good feels the balance of power. Quickly picks up, who is strong and who is weak, you can put pressure on anyone, and who better not touch it. Feels the weaknesses of people with whom acquainted. While working on weak points, change their behavior in a favorable direction for themselves. Sam attempts to direct pressure does not obey. Deftly dodges. Able to stand up for themselves. Reacts violently when he was limited in choice. Commanded by those who are less decisive and less confident. With a strong partner to communicate on an equal footing. Always find a way to draw attention to themselves.
ILI: critical of everyone and everything.
LIE: fast in motion, always trying to make money out of your ideas
ESI: business minded, can't see the future, make terrible romantic mistakes
IEE: too flighty.
SLI: easily bored, loose patience with things they aren't good at things right away wants to move on too quickly, doesn't demand constant attention, lets others have the focus of attention, quiet, undemonstrative, brusk demeanor that looks or comes across as grumpy, holds a lot of emotion inside, bottles emotions and looks like they are angry or grumpy, willing to let others to do stuff for them but have certain things they are willing to do for themselves.
EII: Serious, ernest, optimist, spiritual, about relationships
LSE: sarcastic, ironic, pessimist, pragmatic, about work
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Dual type(as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
It would take an eternity for you to understand that you are ESI, and that the adventurous and reliable "ILE" you describe is actually LIE, and the vice-versa. So since I'm not immortal: "yes dear, you are indeed right".
Oh dear.
Hahahahaha.
LII- Only dealt with an
EII- Good moral role-models, but get really fucking annoying after the first few sentences.
ILI- Lazy assholes, but I like how they think
SLI- Good company to smoke pot with but seeing them eat is like witnessing a violent rape/homicide
IEI- lazy cry-babies with a false sense of superiority
SEI- Watching tv with them is alright I guess....
LSI- Boring, and further bores me with details. Get's pissy when you call them out on it.
ESI- Weirdos, but constant troll-like humor coupled with solid dependability makes them excellent company.
LSE- Like talking to a brick wall. And no, I don't give a shit about that thing you did 20 years ago. And yes, I've heard this story before.
ESE- Please die
LIE- Never had a problem these. Keep up the good work.
EIE- I avoid them like the plague
IEE- Always lend an ear, but can't stick to anything or do anything right.
SEE- Powerful presence, cutthroat attitude, unyielding loyalty. I have high respect for them.
SLE- Willing to kill in the name of their opinion, too bad their opinions usually suck.
ILE- Annoying, unprincipled, nonsensical fuckfaces. I have no need for these people.
"We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.".
"Oh dear", "Jesus Christ!", "OMG!!!", "OMFG!", "Are you serious?" - typical ESI (and less so other Fi types) stunts for lack of arguments. Is this convincing?
ILE - Witty, awkward, geeky, almost always too distant/intrusive.
SEI - Relaxing, gentle, animal friendly(?!), aesthetic, light-hearted, silly, cute.
ESE - Do you have anything interesting to say or are you just filling an imagined social vacuum you experienced when no one said anything for 2 secs?
LII - People who can put it in a nutshell with fresh insight!
EIE - Things in your head seem rather interesting but shut up and relax.
LSI - Rigid people prone to small-mindedness
SLE - Face me with respect and I shall do the same. Then let's have a drink.
IEI - I'll protect you, you magical creature you.
SEE - Not a lot of experience.
ILI - Intelligent, distant and analytic.
LIE - Nerdy, tact, reasonable, but a bit stiff maybe.
ESI - I might admire your idiotic rage and the compassion it holds for your values but please..
LSE - Dry and awkwardly normal. As fuck. You don't entertain me. Unless you bring food or fix my shit.
EII - I respect your fine nyances but would you please tell me straight up front when you find me stepping on your fragile toes.
Very good to have a meaningful chat if relationships are involved.
IEE - Your gentle wackiness usually delights the world-weary me.
SLI - Oh, I liked you but I didn't know you liked me too? Next time try showing it a bit more.
“I tell you, freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. government will lead the American people in — and the West in general — into an unbearable hell and a choking life. - Osama bin Laden
I haven't really had experience with all of the types, so I'll just describe the ones I know in person.
ILE- Adorable and nerdy, with an off-color yet witty sense of humor. Sometimes completely tactless to hilarious effect. Optimistic and open-minded, full of interesting observations. Juvenile at times. Completely incapacitated by a good back or neck rub.
LII- Intelligent and well-read. Fun to talk with. Ask lots of questions during conversation, sometimes too many. The type of person I'd play Magic: the Gathering or talk about Camus with.
ESE- "Now tell us how you really feel." Exuberant people with good intentions. Can tend to be controlling and overly-dramatic. Chill out, please.
SEI- Mild-mannered and ingratiating. Genuinely desire to help. Collect lots of knick-knacks. Can be subtly manipulative and prone to spurts of passive-aggression and guilt-tripping.
SLE- Determined and strong. Street-smart and wise. Can be stubborn and moody, need to get stuff done RIGHT NOW OR ELSE at inopportune times like Christmas morning or after the death of a relative. Soft and fuzzy inside.
IEI- Creative and friendly, prone to push-pull behavior and disappearing acts with friends and lovers. Undercurrent of anxiety and restlessness; I can't relax around them a lot of the time. Wandering souls.
ILI- The one I met was kind of unstable. Very intelligent with interesting thoughts and insights, but insensitive and somewhat awkward. Good for conversation, not friendship.
SEE- Materialistic, very open about their sexuality. Party party party! Sometimes have difficulty knowing their limits or seeing the inevitable consequences of their actions. Lots of fun now and then, but we'd never be best friends.
IEE- Great style, varied interests similar to mine (obscure bands, philosophy, surrealism etc.). Friendly, knows everyone. Kind of flaky and unreliable but I still want to get to know them better. My concert/zombie movie-fest buddy in college.
EII- Naive and idealistic, very principled and moralistic. Passive-aggressive at times; just say what's on your mind! Repressed nerd. Driven by their passions.
ILE - gay
SEI - gay
ESE - gay
LII - gay
SLE - gay
IEI - gay
EIE - gay
LSI - gay
SEE - gay
ILI - gay
LIE - gay
ESI - gay
IEE - gay
SLI - gay
LSE - gay
EII - gay
May I call you BulletsAndDoves now?
kill yourself
That's actually FDG's line. It is copyrighted. Tell me, Galen, how many Disney films must I watch in order to stand side by side with you, holding hands and being so in love?
you know it is not how many ... it is the twinkle in your eye that counts. Disney is magic!!!
Socionics -
the16types.info
I'm sure Fabio would lend it freely, lol
I have met all kinds of people in all kinds of quandras. And for most people i valued less was because i couldnt understand them or they lacked self awareness that was disturbing. But types that lack self awareness by definition dont annoy me. I accept them as they are and use them as pawns.
Still some truth to them
Estj- Boring average. can be dealt only for breaf moment to borrow money or get food.
istp. kinda boring and dullwhich they are also afraid of because its true
estp. kinda hotheaded, rigidly sexy. someone to charm and fuck before they become annoying my madhoe ex gf was one, and shit they can be insane
istj. they are clueless but funny
infp. good understanding but iei-fe gets boring after awhile after sex been had. Iei.ni good for conversation boring otherwise
EIE- funny in theyr lower forms. Really erotic in theyr more glorious divine authority form
intp- hate people and people hate them when thinkin of niffweed in higher forms intelligently witty
intj-irrevelant to life
esfj-irrevelant to life
enfp. stupid liars
entj- nerdy and wish to be good with people but in lower forms are just annoying
entp-either really annoying or really charming like aqua
isfj-se good for sex
isfp boring in easy way
esfj boring in controlling way
esfp stupid sluts and i like them
eii seem desperate for sex
Last edited by NewBorn STAR; 04-03-2012 at 03:37 AM.
Sure. No doubt about it. It's morally acceptable.
Aw come on, is it so bad to be compared with me?ILE - gay
SEI - gay
ESE - gay
LII - gay
SLE - gay
IEI - gay
EIE - gay
LSI - gay
SEE - gay
ILI - gay
LIE - gay
ESI - gay
IEE - gay
SLI - gay
LSE - gay
EII - gay
May I call you BulletsAndDoves now?
Kill yourself.
ENTp - scattered, nerdy, losers. (die)
ISFp - good people. (:
INTj - <333 generally hilarious
ESFj - the energy is nice but i feel like i'm not giving them much room to build on (or something)
ESTp - everything that's wrong in the world
INFp - generally nice and affable; easy to get along with
ISTj - i wish i could understand them and vice versa
ENFj - basically like me but 10 times louder
ESFp - usually very nice but can occasionally push too far and it's hard to get angry at them because they're so goddamn nice.
INTp - bitter, sarcastic, my judgmental tendencies tuned way up, which is good because they're easy to gossip with.
ISFj - like me but more realistic
ENTj - good company, engaging, funny, knowledgeable about worldly things.
ENFp - um yeah ok.
ISTp - like INTps but less likely to run into walls.
INFj - supreme rulers of planet earth. fuck yeah.
ESTj - everything they do is lol
I thought you thought gay SLIs didn't exist.
And I would hide my face in you and you would hide your face in me, and nobody would ever see us any more.
There are only two traditions in the British Navy, rum and sodomy! (Quote from Winston Churchill ! )I thought you thought gay SLIs didn't exist.
Socionics -
the16types.info
ENTp - typically a very good sense of humour that I enjoy, interesting ideas but can be over the top
ISFp - good-natured and friendly people, but they sometimes lack the necessary assertiveness in conflicts
INTj - usually intelligent, can have balanced personalities, but are sometimes crazy
ESFj - I appreciate their good intentions when in company, but they're often too intrusive
ESTp - they're not afraid to tackle their problems, rather loyal, but can be overly cocky and aggressive
INFp - can be inspiring people, but may as well be too erratic, sometimes too disconnected from reality
ISTj - reasonable people, I like them for their dependablility and honesty, I can imagine them being dogmatic too, though
ENFj - live life to the fullest, emotional rollercoasters, dealing with them irl is usually bothersome and worth avoiding
ESFp - barely know any of those irl, sorry
INTp - passive and calm observers, intelligent and able to see both (or more) sides of an issue, might be paralysingly apathetic
ISFj - rather strict, hate random and senseless fun, serious and purposeful
ENTj - active, smart, focused on careers and getting ahead in life, can be loudmouthed
ENFp - nice and caring people, creative, friendly, can be naive but that's exusable, might never stop talking
ISTp - can be a good blend of rather positive traits, might also vegetate in a state of senseless hedonism
INFj - gentle and friendly, have deep feelings but can be overly puritan, even for my standards
ESTj - very dependable and industrious, usually free from inflated ego-issue but may be awfully pretty-minded
*judgements based on rl experince, can be warped by wrong typings
„Man can do what he wants but he cannot want what he wants.“
– Arthur Schopenhauer
ENTp - Liars, bad to have as enemy, good to have as friend, reliable only in emergencies, do not like attachment
ISFp - Liars, cute, under the radar
ESFj - Liars, fun, explosive, cute
INTj - Bad liars, rigid with a need to plan, steadfast, reliable people
ESTp - Liars, bad to have as enemy, good to have as friend, respect strength and ability but doesn't want to acknowledge their limitations, sometimes associate with ingratiating people who are not worthwhile which lead to problems.
INFp - Liars, can be whiny and sensitive, but are kind
ENFj - Liars, whiny, emotionally manipulative, complains about everything but good at finding fault as well, need someone to put it all together for them
ISTj - Bad liars, anal retentive, overestimate the quality of their plans, have a hard time understanding what they did not take a direct hand in. Can be paranoid and unsure of the relationships, which result in abusive controlling actions.
ESFp - Good liars if not spectacular, unreliable people, like to take advantage of their relationships in life, often capable of that, prone to depression and guilt due to cognitive dissonance. Often sweeps things under the rug to avoid blame.
INTp - Liars, but conscientious and often kind people who are skeptical of everything including themselves, hardworking but don't like to be managed or directed
ENTj - Liars, at their best, positive, enterprising and adventuring, however will often seek revenge for past slights materially, useful as acquaintances but need to watch out for eventual betrayal
ISFj - Liars, but good at deluding themselves and thus can seem honest, their emotional sympathies and antipathies can manifest in abusive, controlling behavior
ENFp - Liars, really good liars, unreliable, do the utmost to avoid responsibility, work, prefers to talk, write and promote
ISTp - Liars, don't talk too much however, very stingy
ESTj - Liars, don't trust them with your money, they will dick you over
INFj - Liars, really good at deluding themselves, can make your life hell for "your own good" but are generally not very forceful,
I wish more of these posts were serious.
And I would hide my face in you and you would hide your face in me, and nobody would ever see us any more.
But I was being serious.I wish more of these posts were serious.
Not everyone is a liar hk.But I was being serious.
And I would hide my face in you and you would hide your face in me, and nobody would ever see us any more.
But.... everybody lies...Not everyone is a liar hk.
But they are not necessarily defined by that characteristic.
And I would hide my face in you and you would hide your face in me, and nobody would ever see us any more.
Oh, that's just how I define them.
lol, wtf @ you all.]
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