Male ISFj looking for information on female ENTjs

[ozone]

I have just realized that I am ESI without a doubt.

Here's the problem I'm male and my dual will be female.
It might be cool if it was the other way around but it's not.

It doesn't help that there is virtually no information on LIE's other than written sociotype descriptions and from what I have read LIE women are not very feminine at all.

This scares the crap out of me I don't want no freakin' man with girly parts.

I need a picture in my head of them I don't have any. This must change.

[mfckr]

Elisabetta Canalis is quite likely LIE and she's not incredibly manly.

[ozone]

Not girly enough.

[mfckr]

Not girly enough.

Doesn't look very manly to me.

 

[ozone]

You made your point now remove your dirty photo.

[ozone]

Eliza Dushku seems a bit for Feminine.

[Sir Knight]

I have just realized that I am ESI without a doubt.

Here's the problem I'm male and my dual will be female.
It might be cool if it was the other way around but it's not.

It doesn't help that there is virtually no information on LIE's other than written sociotype descriptions and from what I have read LIE women are not very feminine at all.

This scares the crap out of me I don't want no freakin' man with girly parts.

I need a picture in my head of them I don't have any. This must change.

What was wrong with SLI? For what little it's worth you seem very Ip.

[FDG]

This thread is lame, except the Canalis pic of course.

[ozone]

I don't identify as a caregiver.

I don't see the point and benefits of

[ozone]

Why is the nude photo still here get rid of it or at least hyperlink it so we aren't not forced to see it.

[ozone]

Shes got a nice body her face is a little square if you ask me.

I am a strong christian. Not homosexual at all. I had a cousin who came out I haven't spoken to him in years I cut him off.

[mfckr]

Shes got a nice body her face is a little square if you ask me.

A bit.

I am a strong christian. Not homosexual at all. I had a cousin who came out I haven't spoken to him in years I cut him off.

You cut your cousin off just because he's gay? That's fucked up. What made you feel justified to do that?

[ozone]

Religious reasons.

[Crispy]

If God revealed himself to you and promised you eternity in heaven in exchange for killing your family, would you submit yourself? If so, please stay far away from me. If not, congratulations, you are an atheist!

[Korpsy Knievel]

Crispy, if it's good enough for Abraham, the father of judaism, xianity, and islam...

[Bardia]

I have just realized that I am ESI without a doubt.

Here's the problem I'm male and my dual will be female.
It might be cool if it was the other way around but it's not.

It doesn't help that there is virtually no information on LIE's other than written sociotype descriptions and from what I have read LIE women are not very feminine at all.

This scares the crap out of me I don't want no freakin' man with girly parts.

I need a picture in my head of them I don't have any. This must change.

There's nothing wrong with being ESI. I will admit I haven't had an easy time finding female or even male LIEs. Duality isn't everything though.

Shes got a nice body her face is a little square if you ask me.

I am a strong christian. Not homosexual at all. I had a cousin who came out I haven't spoken to him in years I cut him off.

Did you cut him off simply because he was homosexual or for other reasons?

[pianosinger]

I am a strong christian. Not homosexual at all. I had a cousin who came out I haven't spoken to him in years I cut him off.

You're ESI; you've convinced me. FWIW, I don't exactly agree with the homosexual lifestyle, either. That said, I do think you're being way too extreme about it. You seem to see this one negative characteristic about your cousin, and it blinds you to everything potentially good about him, so much so that you can no longer even see yourself having any sort of relation with him. Fi-Base with Ne-PoLR makes a lot of sense for you.

As for having trouble finding a female LIE...Who said your girlfriend/wife has to be your Dual? Maybe you could find yourself a good Dual best friend instead...

[Galen]

Oh god it's gonna be one of these threads isn't it

I am a strong christian. Not homosexual at all.

I don't get it, is one supposed to contradict the other?

[pianosinger]

You are a moron.

You are entitled to that opinion.

[Lobo]

Oh god it's gonna be one of these threads isn't it


I don't get it, is one supposed to contradict the other?

I bet this will go nowhere... Once people are able to blindly believe in something without questioning it or having actual proof, I'd say it's close to impossible to try and reason with them about it to change their minds. It's up to them to experience something that will shake their beliefs in such a way that they actually start to question them and apply reason.

[ashlesha]

this thread is vicariously embarassing.

[FDG]

You're ESI; you've convinced me.

That's fucked up. You've been convinced just because in your mind you equate being ESI with excessive close mindedness. Extremely stereotypical, and mostly just...bad reasoning.

[marooned]

I personally don't believe LIE is a manly type. But oh well, maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm alone.

[Creepy-male]

That's fucked up. You've been convinced just because in your mind you equate being ESI with excessive close mindedness. Extremely stereotypical, and mostly just...bad reasoning.

This. Ne PoLR isn't closedmindedness, just like Te PoLR doesn't make you a lazy social non-participant. The PoLR is not some kind of lame-ass stereotype that makes you undesirable scum, or else everybody would be undesirable scum and that's just not the case, now is it?

Put it another way, Pianosinger, if your reasoning had any kind of weight at all, 1 in 8 people would be ridiculous conservatives. That is simply not the case.

[krieger]

1 in 8 people would be ridiculous conservatives. That is simply not the case.

i agree with all the rest of your post, but you're deplorably wrong about this.

[woofwoofl]

And this is why I have gone from devout Christian to pretty much anti-religion when it means acting unethically in the name of acting ethically. No offense, but what you did is a horrible thing to do to a person and is immoral. Most of the ESIs I came out to who are very religious don't treat me any different. Mother didn't like it, but understand that you don't do that shit to people. You realize how many people sink into depression and kill themselves because of that treatment (I will only love you and treat you like you're a human if you go into the closet and suffer in silence in there because that's what a God with no fucking common sense with a warped sense of justice wants)? But if following the Bible means doing what you did, then fuck the Bible!! It's worth shit if it advocates shit.

No book is more holy or more sacred than treating other human beings and humanity with respect.

This world doesn't need religion...it needs respect. I can respect if you believe it's a sin because I once did, but I cannot respect treating people like shit on account of it...if that's what Mr. St. Paul advocates, then he can kiss mine because he's an idiot. That's just bull-fucking-shit.

Maybe you should listen to some of your own brethren on this matter who can be more compassionate (because it just disgusts me): http://www.createdgay.com/

Be good to people and have their back is what I'm all for - I never had to read a book to figure that one out

[Bardia]

You're ESI; you've convinced me. FWIW, I don't exactly agree with the homosexual lifestyle, either. That said, I do think you're being way too extreme about it. You seem to see this one negative characteristic about your cousin, and it blinds you to everything potentially good about him, so much so that you can no longer even see yourself having any sort of relation with him. Fi-Base with Ne-PoLR makes a lot of sense for you.

As for having trouble finding a female LIE...Who said your girlfriend/wife has to be your Dual? Maybe you could find yourself a good Dual best friend instead...

I hope you don't think this is what ESIs are supposed to be like

[Creepy-Snaps]

Lol. This article ranks LIE and SLE as the two manliest types.

Lol... if reading old Russian articles helps you sleep better at night, go for it.

[Galen]

You're ESI; you've convinced me. FWIW, I don't exactly agree with the homosexual lifestyle, either.

Pray tell, what is the homosexual lifestyle?

[FDG]

I personally don't believe LIE is a manly type. But oh well, maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm alone.

Well, it's not very feminine either. Although actually the LIE women I know don't come across as manly at all. Just very extraverted.

[pianosinger]

I hope you don't think this is what ESIs are supposed to be like

I'm prepared to stand corrected.

Pray tell, what is the homosexual lifestyle?

You're baiting me.

[Bardia]

I'm prepared to stand corrected.

It just seemed to me like you were agreeing with ESI because he is being incredibly closed minded about his cousin and I don't like to perpetuate the idea that ESIs are like that. If you've typed him ESI for other reasons (I've only read what is in this thread so idk if you've talked about his type elsewhere) I would be glad to hear why.

[Simon Ssmall]

I'm prepared to stand corrected.



You're baiting me.

Do you have a heterosexual lifestyle?

[Slacker]

ok so just as I understand, being a Christian means you are so judgmental that you cut family members out of his life? Really?

The term Homosexual Lifestyle makes me think of this quote my cousin had on her Facebook page:

"It's very dear to me, the issue of Gay Marriage, or as I like to call it, 'Marriage.' You know, because I had lunch this afternoon, not gay lunch, and I parked my car, not gay parked it."

The homosexual lifestyle is just like everyone else's lifestyle. Get up, shower, eat breakfast, go to work, etc. They fall in love with someone else, but they have the same lifestyle.

[rat1]

I am a strong christian. Not homosexual at all. I had a cousin who came out I haven't spoken to him in years I cut him off.

Lol, you don't understand Christianity. Cutting off a family member because he's gay is contradictory to Jesus's whole message. You realize we are all sinners in Gods eyes, right? Why doesn't your family cut you off?

Christians in the USA are the most ignorant, non-spiritual 'religious group' in history. Modern Christianity as it's practiced by controlling upper class parents and sheltered children is a justification for their personal hangups, not a religion. I think it's actually driven by a fear of the lower class.

And keep your "religion" to yourself, because I don't give a damn about your hangups and I'm not going to accommodate them either. I like the nude photograph and I want it to stay.

This is America, ******. We're free to express ourselves by posting nude women in forums.

[Simon Ssmall]

Where is B&D when you actually need him

[rat1]

Manly women will manhandle your cock. And that's not gay at all.

[pianosinger]

It just seemed to me like you were agreeing with ESI because he is being incredibly closed minded about his cousin and I don't like to perpetuate the idea that ESIs are like that. If you've typed him ESI for other reasons (I've only read what is in this thread so idk if you've talked about his type elsewhere) I would be glad to hear why.

No, I haven't typed him elsewhere.

Anyway, you all are right, that what ozone said/did about his homosexual cousin is not proof in itself that he is ESI; though, it does seem to lend weight to his self-typing. That's all I was trying to say. Or if not ESI particularly, some kind of Gamma seems likely.

If I (very unlikely scenario) were to announce to my family tomorrow that I was an active lesbian, my ESI mom would not disown me or refuse to speak to me (though my dad might). She would, however, have a very hard time dealing with it, and would probably have to fight the urge every time she saw me, to say something like "I just wish you could see what you're doing to yourself."

Slacker-- You are entirely right.

Do you have a heterosexual lifestyle?

Erg, I'm just no good at semantics. Pardon my Ti-PoLR (you have it, too, can't you be a little more understanding?).

Okay, I'll try saying it less vaguely. I don't agree with the act of same-sex intercourse in any form. That's all. I believe it's not what God intended for His children and is a perversion of the sacredness of procreation. Will I ever refuse to acknowledge the existence of someone who is an active homosexual, or offhandedly reject them in other aspects of life wholly unrelated to sexuality? Not at all.

[Crispy]

EDIT:

I believe it's not what God intended for His children and is a perversion of the sacredness of procreation.

[Slacker]

Why is procreation so sacred? I really find love, support, acceptance, family, all those things more sacred than procreation. Sex is given way too much of a center stage as far as moralizing goes.