Allie as ESFp

[strrrng]

She conveyed her Ni dual seeking to me (without saying that it was Ni dual seeking), in the following words, more or less: "I don't reflect on things, I just do them. I like it when someone can help me reflect and look at the future outcomes of my actions; I like it when people bring that aspect out of me. Most explanations/ideas I come up with on the spot."

As for Ti polr: "I dislike having systems thrown at me. I feel uncertain about how to deal with them and trust what I see more than some explanation. It is as if once one piece doesn't fit, I feel that the whole system isn't going to work."

As per the "incessant Fe" she displays, see Fe demonstrative.

[Expat]

She conveyed her Ni dual seeking to me (without saying that it was Ni dual seeking), in the following words, more or less: "I don't reflect on things, I just do them. I like it when someone can help me reflect and look at the future outcomes of my actions; I like it when people bring that aspect out of me. Most explanations/ideas I come up with on the spot."

Ok, makes sense.

As for Ti polr: "I dislike having systems thrown at me. I feel uncertain about how to deal with them and trust what I see more than some explanation.

About the systems; yes, but SEEs do appreciate explanations. It could be weak without being truly a PoLR.

It is as if once one piece doesn't fit, I feel that the whole system isn't going to work."

If Ti PoLR, it's a, uh, "counter-phobic" one. SEEs are typically not concerned with the idea of "systems". They're really about sheer, raw +: "what works to increase my power, wealth, and influence, and standing among those close to me?" Of course, one possible manifestation of Ti PoLR is precisely a "blind" adherence to some system or ideas, but usually not consciously.

As per the "incessant Fe" she displays, see Fe demonstrative.

True. I have made the mistake in the past of underestimating how "Fe" SEEs can be, which is one reason why I did not agree with Rick's typing of FDR as SEE, but it is my tentative typing now.

My conclusion from all this? No idea. I have no clear opinion on her type. I would say that quadra is very likely.

[strrrng]

If Ti PoLR, it's a, uh, "counter-phobic" one. SEEs are typically not concerned with the idea of "systems". They're really about sheer, raw +: "what works to increase my power, wealth, and influence, and standing among those close to me?" Of course, one possible manifestation of Ti PoLR is precisely a "blind" adherence to some system or ideas, but usually not consciously.

Right, and this is how her position on Ti seems. She doesn't treat it in the same way I would expect an ESI to (attempting to engage in it, albeit minimally, to compensate for deficiencies); instead, she seems fairly blind to it.

My conclusion from all this? No idea. I have no clear opinion on her type. I would say that quadra is very likely.

I agree that Se/Ni quadra is very likely.

[Ezra]

I think it's more likely than ESI.

[FDG]

It's a possibility, but it's up to her to evaluate how likely it is to be truer than her current self-typing.

[Ezra]

It's up to her to make the right decision about her type, you mean.

[Lotus]

If knowing my Socionics type came down to me making a "decision" I would have had one over a year ago. I like making decisions. Unfortunately, this has nothing to do with decision-making.

[Gilly]

SEE certainly makes more sense than ESI.

[Khamelion]

SEE certainly makes more sense than ESI.

lol i forgot about the sig quote


i dunnoo...allie is whatever she is...>_>


im good at saying things to people to make them come to conclusions like strrrng did....im not sure if this could be the case....if allie is as talented at manipulation as i

i dont really do it anymore, cuz it doesn't actually get me anywheres

[crazedrat]

I also used to think ISFj-Se was SEE-Se . I was wrong

[Robot]

Question: Couldn't that also be introvert-seeking? Isn't it a charicteristic of all introverts to want to reflect on things?

[Lotus]

Okay, temporary photo: VI Me.

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*I honestly hate posting photos. Please don't make me regret it. It's cropped because there's other people in it. If it's not good enough to go off of, PM me because I already feel uneasy enough posting this one here.

[strrrng]

You seem too focused on the immediate reality to be an Ni dominant. You just seem too aware, lol. Gamma SF seems like a good option. It's hard to tell much beyond that, but the sx is there!

[FDG]

It's up to her to make the right decision about her type, you mean.

It's not a decision, it's an evaluation - you can evaluate reality, but you cannot decide if something is true or false when you have no influence on it.

[Lotus]

So what do I VI as?

[Robot]

So what do I VI as?

You VI as someone who's pretty, Fish Girl!!

[discojoe]

You VI as someone who's pretty, Fish Girl!!

*slaps Robot*

[Robot]

*slaps Robot*

Hey what did I say?

[discojoe]

Hey what did I say?

Complimenting women on their looks over the internet is lame and creepy.

[FDG]

Complimenting women on their looks over the internet is lame and creepy.

Why would that be? O _ O

[discojoe]

Why would that be? O _ O

I don't have a rational explanation. I just think it makes you sound like an idiot.

[Mediator Kam]

i agree with robot.

anyway, she has that fierce look about her.

[Khamelion]

I don't have a rational explanation. I just think it makes you sound like an idiot.

it can be kind of creepy....but some people find a way of complimenting without coming on strong or trying to insinuate something.

im sensitive about compliments on my looks in general. if it has to do with my style or hair, im ok with it it because i actually had a hand in creating that effect...maybe even weight since i control that too for the most part...but anything else i can't take credit for and don't know what to say.

compliments on beauty are things i would prefer to happen in private...and not in a casual "oh your so beautiful" kind of way....sometimes you an feel the compliment just from the way someone looks at you or....well other variations of that sort of thing. >_>


anyway....im not good at VI....so....i'm going to refrain from commenting on that.

[strrrng]

intuitive, probably logical. it's interesting that strrrng is saying that you look focused on the immediate reality; I don't really get that impression from you. you look like you look beyond it. IME intuitive types' eyes look like they're looking at something past what's immediately visible. with sensors, it's more that they're looking straight at you and actually seeing you; with intuitives it's not so much that they're seeing you as they are seeing something else beyond; they don't tend to look as "focused" as sensor's eyes do.

I don't know. Her eye movements seem to reflect an Se preference - discrete, static jumps, moving from object to object. I highly doubt she's Ne/Si valuing.

Complimenting women on their looks over the internet is lame and creepy.

Especially if you don't know them.

[Rubicon]

Bah ... Allie, you look lovely.

[crazedrat]

she looks exactly the same as other ISFj-Ses ive met. she also acts the same. she is also probably tweaked out in that picture so im sure that has some effect on her current state of awareness which you are seeing through her picture

[strrrng]

she looks exactly the same as other ISFp-Ses ive met. she also acts the same. she is also probably tweaked out in that picture so im sure that has some effect on her current state of awareness which you are seeing through her picture

You mean Se-ISFj's?

[crazedrat]

ya

[Expat]

I tried hard to think of which types would come to my mind from that picture if I did not know who it was.

My thoughts were:

- Se/Ni quadra
- probably not LSI, SLE

Which leaves 6 types: EIE, IEI, ESI, LIE, ILI, SEE

Obs: I am not typing "Allie" -- those are "my VI impressions from the person in that picture".

[betterthandead]

Allie is a homo.

[strrrng]

Allie is a homo.

Who are you, lol?

[Lotus]

Well, thanks for that. Any more VI impressions?

[Ezra]

Hot.

But you know that already.

[strrrng]

Hot.

But you know that already.

ugh lol...she gets too much attention here.

[discojoe]

Hot.

But you know that already.

YOU BRITISH FUCK

[Gilly]

Looks like an IEI I used to work with whose type I am absolutely certain of; the only other remote possibility for her would be ILI.

[strrrng]

Looks like an IEI I used to work with whose type I am absolutely certain of; the only other remote possibility for her would be ILI.

Could you elaborate on some of the similarities you see between them? Even if it is just a subjective vibe (lol), it could help illuminate what you mean.

And lol @ Allie being INTp.

[Gilly]

I didnt mean Allie as ILI; I meant the girl I worked with.

It's the "doe eyes," the shape of the face, the general demeanor of demureness combined with withheld tension and occasional "bursts" of assertiveness/emotionality.

[Creepy-Diana]

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[FDG]

My first thought was that she reminded me of Garmonbozia, and then I looked again and couldn't figure out why, because they don't look alike at all. My next thought was that she has a bit of an Angelina Jolie look to her - her eyes and the shape of her chin + the dark hair, she just doesn't have the huge lips. Younger pictures of Jolie they look more similar. Type "young angelina jolie" into google image search. But I really don't do VI much or well, so putting a type to a photo. . . eh.

Yeah, they really look a lot alike, I noticed that too