VI/Type me?

**Errant** · 11-23-2008, 02:40 PM

Erm. Not exactly sure what I'm supposed to say about myself to make this easier on you all, so I guess I'll take questions instead?

**munenori2** · 11-23-2008, 02:43 PM

You do the raised eyebrow thing too? Holy shit let's be identicals.

In other news, sorry, I'm V-tarded. No type suggestions.

**Errant** · 11-23-2008, 02:45 PM

I seriously can't help it. Camera goes anywhere near my face, BAM, eyebrow.

**Jarno** · 11-23-2008, 03:15 PM

My guess would be ISFP based on VI.

**Khola aka Bee** · 11-24-2008, 11:21 AM

Knowing you I'd say delta>alpha most likely EII.

**JuJu** · 11-24-2008, 06:35 PM

bee would prob know best, but based on that pic, I would rule out alpha...

**redbaron** · 11-24-2008, 07:36 PM

not sure that raised eyebrow thing is type related. My ESE husband does it too.
and, it would be easier with more than one photo.

**Jarno** · 11-24-2008, 07:52 PM

Originally Posted by JuJu

bee would prob know best, but based on that pic, I would rule out alpha...

What I don't understand is how you can rule out a quadra.

Do you use VI criteria, or does he seem to not have an alpha pose or something like that?

**JuJu** · 11-24-2008, 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by Jarno

What I don't understand is how you can rule out a quadra.

Do you use VI criteria, or does he seem to not have an alpha pose or something like that?

Yeah, Vi criteria.

As to how to rule out a quadra w/ VI... After you've seen enough of a type, (and then a quadra,) you'll notice similar looks emanating from peoples' eyes. These looks denote their psychological disposition and Socionics type.

Maybe it'd be good to start another thread about this so as not to derail this dude's.

For good examples of 'Alpha' looks:
ESFj: Tom Cruise; Paula Abdul
ISFp: Mariah Carey; Adam Sandler
INTj: Ruth B. Ginsberg; Larry King
ENTp: Nicholas Cage; Natalie Portman

**jessica129** · 11-24-2008, 08:42 PM

You think Tom Cruise is ESFJ? I might have to agree with that as I've seen him typed SLI before and that's just...comical.

**JuJu** · 11-24-2008, 09:45 PM

LOL@an SLI jumping on Oprah's couch screaming, "I am in LOVE! I am in LOVE with this WOMAN!"

**Park** · 11-24-2008, 10:17 PM

Originally Posted by Allie

Yeah... not SLI. lol

He's more like... EIE.

**Ms. Kensington** · 11-24-2008, 11:14 PM

Originally Posted by Winterpark

He's more like... EIE.

tom cruise? ENFj was actually what came to mind for this guy (Errant)

**Park** · 11-24-2008, 11:20 PM

Originally Posted by Ms. Kensington

tom cruise?

Yes.

Originally Posted by Ms. Kensington

ENFj was actually what came to mind for this guy (Errant)

Yeah... my initial impression was Beta NF. INFp > ENFj.

**Khola aka Bee** · 11-25-2008, 09:22 AM

Dunno about beta? But then we get along....but then I have no idea.

**Errant** · 11-25-2008, 09:54 AM

Beta seems... highly unlikely, given the description on wikisocion. I do know that I act a bit different online than I do in person, mostly since it gives me a bit more time to think about the things I say and/or think up a good response to a joke or vice versa. Makes me act out a bit more than I do in early encounters with people offline, I think. Also, Random corroborative photo! I hate getting my photo taken. I never look natural in 'em.

**Ms. Kensington** · 11-25-2008, 05:20 PM

you still look to me to be an Ni type, ENFj over Ni dominant. If not, maybe gamma NT.

**Exodus** · 11-25-2008, 08:34 PM

I'm thinking LSI, maybe SLE. Why not Beta?

**Errant** · 11-25-2008, 11:57 PM

The quadra as a whole just doesn't seem like me. Definitely not extroverted, and only a couple of the features for the introverts seem anything similar to how I act.

**Khola aka Bee** · 11-26-2008, 12:26 AM

This is true. Plus, I always beat him in an argument.

**Errant** · 11-27-2008, 10:05 AM

Not always! Sometimes I let you win.

Um. More personal details for which to be getting on with the profiling of me:
I seem to spend most of my time focused on helping other people with their problems, and have trouble expressing the issues I have in my own life. I'm happy to talk about my problems, but I find that it requires the other person being willing to ask leading questions. Despite this, I'm told that my face is rather open; if I'm feeling depressed it seems to spill out and affect the rest of the group.

**hellothere** · 11-27-2008, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by Errant

Not always! Sometimes I let you win.

Um. More personal details for which to be getting on with the profiling of me:
I seem to spend most of my time focused on helping other people with their problems, and have trouble expressing the issues I have in my own life. I'm happy to talk about my problems, but I find that it requires the other person being willing to ask leading questions. Despite this, I'm told that my face is rather open; if I'm feeling depressed it seems to spill out and affect the rest of the group.

hey Errant, just from VI I would have guessed SLI, though that last part there reminds me of my SEI friend, so maybe Si-SEI. Though this is all over the place if other people are guessing Ni-EJ for you... sorry to add more confusion

btw, you look completely different in your second photo!

**Errant** · 11-27-2008, 12:48 PM

Second photo was about.. three years later than the first, which was taken while I was renovating a house with my grandfather in New Zealand. I got lazy and put on a bunch of weight after I got back. Plus, you know, the beard.

**Gilly** · 11-27-2008, 02:45 PM

Photo suggests IP temperament IMO. The facial expression in the candid photo sort of reminds me of myself so I'll go with IEI>SEI for now.

**redbaron** · 11-27-2008, 03:11 PM

oh wow, the second photo is so different from the first. Oh, I think totally SEI.

**Errant** · 01-02-2009, 07:17 AM

Huzzah, a lack of consensus! Still curious to see whether I am what I think I am, so in the absence of more pictures, here's a recent blog. The method of writing is half-intentional, in that I don't bother to alter itonce it's been written. Feels easier to get ideas and thoughts out when I'm not worrying about syntax.

Went to see a counsellor up at Gisborne this week. Nothing major, just wanted to confirm some things about whether or not I had a case of depression. Never did get a straight answer about it; spent most of the time trying to describe why I can't disconnect myself from people easily, why I feel the need to always play the white knight, fix things for the people I'm close to. Nice conversation. Don't often talk to people who understand it easily. Maybe I'm just not good at explaining it most of the time. Not surprising. Have a hard enough time making sense of it all at the best of times.

Spent most of my time since then thinking. Good things in life, suggested by counsellor. Didn't help much; diamond in a coal vein still obscured by blackness. Regrets piling up, as usual. Worry about future, trying to find something important to do. Don't even get rejection letters, just nothingness. No money for certifications, no experience, would burn out in university, assuming even got in. Just want to help. Fell apart at work, stabbed in back. Trying to keep up, tired of flinching away from whipcracks that don't fall. So tired. Almost prefer being yelled at, can hate then at least. Not good enough, letting people down. Letting me down. Too many god damned obvious patterns. Why can't the rest see? Stop the dance and just be HAPPY, fuck. Can hardly talk, I guess. Wallowing in misery. Need to raise baseline emotion, but how? Surrounded by happy people? Have enough trouble talking to people as it is, couldn't bear being reminded of lack. Fight through mud, drag self up by bootstraps. Odd phrase. Rocket-activation pulley, perhaps. Got no fuel, though. Hate this. Too many damned secrets, too much honour (Self-delusion? Easier to cling to, at least) to make it all right. Prettiest mosaics do start out as broken pottery though. Ha. "Give me a big enough hammer and I can fix the world!" Aristotle would laugh. Must find more... elegant solution though.

But, have to be happy. Too much to lose. Can't make that mistake again. Made the boss laugh til she cried today. Made it worse when she had to tell me I wasn't up to scratch later, but was nice while it lasted. Head seems to be getting back in order, now. Hardly mixing up words at all. Just have to think before speaking. Perhaps record exceeding playback buffer? Ha. Too much credit. Smart person would not be in current situation.

Need to get out. House is stifling me, tired of being yelled at. Expected to pay for new tires on falcon. Apparently wheelspin on gravel = instant baldness. Seem fine to me. Suspicion that is merely another attempt at hooks. Will tear out flesh if have to. Weights, anchors. Stuck in one place. Almost afraid of what would happen, though. high-pressure fish explodes when leaving depths, so used to crushing weight. Float like a butterfly, sting like a fugu. Still, point is moot. Can't get out of house until have somewhere to move to. Love grandmother, but would drive me insane. rent only option, but proving troublesome. Would rent to me if I were not me, but not to know I guess. Just need patience, endurance. In enduring, grow strong. Ha. Fragile. Could die for a hug, touch, contact. not right to expect it, but still craving. Would think I'd learned by now. Easier this way, I guess. Not fair to get jealous.

Still, happy. Silver linings. Have friends. Some more removed than others, disappearing into nowhere and making me worry, but still. Treasure. Have first week of January off. Have to work new year's eve to cover it, but finish at eight so not that big a deal really. Still get out in time for party, with any luck. Ha. Can't end any worse than the last one. Fun, being sober. Still can't trust being drunk. Lose control, lose... everything. Important.

Can't have been for nothing. God, too Quixotic by far to lose that way. Appropriate, though.

Time will tell.

**munenori2** · 01-02-2009, 03:48 PM

We have similar writing styles it looks like. I'm pretty sure if I flipped through everything I've written I'd find something almost exactly like that blog. I'm game for us being identicals.

**Khola aka Bee** · 01-02-2009, 10:46 PM

Nice blog- seriously why don't you write more? That's not the writings of an SEI I don't think, but perhaps LII? I dunno? EII/LII?

There is certainly an understanding of different points between us but we are not the same, we're too different.

(hugs)

At least you're moving out soon man!

**Errant** · 01-05-2009, 05:16 AM

There are a couple of reasons. The main one is really that I don't have much to talk about most of the time. That was .. something like 3 or 4 months of pent-up happenings and emotion. The other part is that I feel too open afterwards. There's always this temptation to ctrl-a del the whole lot when I'm done. *shrug*

**Khola aka Bee** · 01-05-2009, 07:18 AM

So it's like.......popping a cherry, and you're left wide open and vulnerable?

**Errant** · 01-05-2009, 07:29 AM

A rather more... visceral metaphor than I would have gone with, but I guess it works.

**Khola aka Bee** · 01-05-2009, 07:30 AM

Lol u lost ur V-plates. Kekeke.

**Errant** · 01-05-2009, 07:32 AM

Pfft, those disappeared years ago.

**Errant** · 01-20-2009, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by munenori2

We have similar writing styles it looks like. I'm pretty sure if I flipped through everything I've written I'd find something almost exactly like that blog. I'm game for us being identicals.

So what type are you then? :/

**Errant** · 05-14-2009, 03:51 PM

Bump for curiousity as to other people's ideas of my type. Feel somewhat 50/50 between IEI and EII.

**JuJu** · 05-14-2009, 04:01 PM

IEI

**redbaron** · 05-14-2009, 04:34 PM

EII

**Park** · 05-14-2009, 06:07 PM

IIE

**redbaron** · 05-14-2009, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by Winterpark

IIE

:tongue:

**Errant** · 05-17-2009, 11:48 PM

Hoho, I see what you did there.

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