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    I'm getting the impression that ISTps aren't very forgiving. Is this true?
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    I'm the most forgiving person you could possibly meet. Life is too short to hold grudges, I figure.

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    Cool. I wonder if all ISTps are just as forgiving. The ISTps on this forum are disappearing.
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    I myself don't exactly like all the changes around here. Everytime I come here, it's different. And not too many new topics...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mea
    Cool. I wonder if all ISTps are just as forgiving. The ISTps on this forum are disappearing.
    On a side note, that's how I felt about the number of INFjs here.

    Anyway, I feel that ISTps are more likely to be interested in tools and something hands-on. So I wasn't surprised that not many of them posted here regularly.

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    When you're stuck with an office job that you absolutely despise, you have to pass the time somehow I guess. Hence the reason I'M here.

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    I had an argument with an ISTp girl over the net about 5 months ago. I sent her a nice email apologising and say that i still like her but she told me to fuck myself. LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mea
    I'm getting the impression that ISTps aren't very forgiving. Is this true?
    I think an ITp may hold a grudge, but will tend to get over it quickly because of the Fi HA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eunice
    Quote Originally Posted by Mea
    Cool. I wonder if all ISTps are just as forgiving. The ISTps on this forum are disappearing.
    On a side note, that's how I felt about the number of INFjs here.

    Anyway, I feel that ISTps are more likely to be interested in tools and something hands-on. So I wasn't surprised that not many of them posted here regularly.

    Hmm, I suppose. Some of these topics can be really abstract and such. I'm interested in the practical applications of all this, like how to spot ENFps and manipulate them.


    Besides, there's been a lot of drama and hand-wringing here lately, and I'm just not into that.
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    You seem like a cute person, and SLIs don´t keep grudges like that. I bet they´d rather just forgive you than have to read a long apology letter.

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    Is that solomon quote from Proverbs? where in it?
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    It's impossible for me to hold grudges..even when I want to. They're stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lobo View Post
    You seem like a cute person, and SLIs don´t keep grudges like that. I bet they´d rather just forgive you than have to read a long apology letter.
    Exactly what I was thinking. I forgave her by the end of the first paragraph, drifted off around paragraph three.

    I think it's over by now. The SLI will be touched by her concern.
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    I forgave her by the end of the first paragraph, drifted off around paragraph three.
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    Aw, don't be embarrassed by it. Everybody needs to vent sometimes. Nothing wrong with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aixelsyd View Post
    My initial letter had maybe under 50 words with two short paragraphs which I would never put up online. I like to keep things brief on a professional level. Online I tend to ramble so I don't have to do it in my offline situations as I tend not to have much to say apart from my really close friends. I was frantically trying to piece my thoughts together here in hopes to vent out my feelings but it never came out right and I was in no mood to revise for conciseness. In any case. I am satisfied.
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    ILI's have feelings?
    <Crispy> what subt doesnt understand is that a healthy reaction to "FUCK YOU" is and not

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    Well if it isn't thePirate... I'm shocked to find out that you are not IEE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lobo View Post
    Well if it isn't thePirate... I'm shocked to find out that you are not IEE.
    sarcasm?

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    <Crispy> what subt doesnt understand is that a healthy reaction to "FUCK YOU" is and not

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    Quote Originally Posted by thePirate View Post
    sarcasm?

    o.O
    yeah, it's a bad habit.

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    I think Fi/Te introverts tend to act passive-aggressive when hurt.

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    [QUOTE=aixelsyd;605946]QUOTE]

    aixelsyd,

    How did this turn out?
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    Default do SLI's hold grudges??

    I do sometimes, do others?
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    yes

    Depends upon which one they are...as in what state of mind they are in; they will hold a grudge with someone who broke their heart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SenoritaC View Post
    in relationship of romance if an SLI believes something has been done wrong to him, does he hold a grudge??

    how to make up with an SLI, is it just explain what happened and SLI forgives? or does SLI hold a grudge??
    I'd say SLIs are going to be forgiving. We can forgive mistakes, accidents of the heart too, just not very forgiving of maliciousness. Maybe just a little time needs to pass, but SLIs are not prone to strong value judgements.
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    There are people my husband does hold grudges against. There's this guy he knows who had someone fired on false pretenses to make room for a friend of his to be hired. He holds a really big grudge against both of them for that. There is nothing they could do to get on his good side at this point. That's just an example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mariella View Post
    There are people my husband does hold grudges against. There's this guy he knows who had someone fired on false pretenses to make room for a friend of his to be hired. He holds a really big grudge against both of them for that. There is nothing they could do to get on his good side at this point. That's just an example.
    Well that's true. I have a short list of those too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrano View Post
    Well that's true. I have a short list of those too.
    lol just conveniently happen to forget that did you?

    yes, they hold grudges. they are actually pretty judgmental despite their live and let lie attitude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mariella View Post
    There are people my husband does hold grudges against. There's this guy he knows who had someone fired on false pretenses to make room for a friend of his to be hired. He holds a really big grudge against both of them for that. There is nothing they could do to get on his good side at this point. That's just an example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thePirate View Post
    lol just conveniently happen to forget that did you?

    yes, they hold grudges. they are actually pretty judgmental despite their live and let lie attitude.
    :grr:

    Btw, I dig the "live and let lie" attitude you're talking about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parkster View Post
    :grr:

    Btw, I dig the "live and let lie" attitude you're talking about.
    lol whoops live and let live =X

    I hope that didnt come out too harsh, I like SLIs. They may be my favorite type from delta. I just emphasized the judgemental thing because thats was one crucial factor that was kind of an 'oh shit' moment for me. I expected something else or misunderstood the descriptions or something. Also Im going to add in that while to ME its judgemental, it may not seem that way to other types. But, I do tend to see a correlation with judgementalism and grudges which generally tend to be a trend of Fi valuing types. Granted, some Fe types are guilty of this aswell but I dont perceive Fe types to generally hold grudges as much as the Fi's. I do agree that SLIs are forgiving.
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    I think they're pretty forgiving. In certain circumstances, too forgiving.

    There are people my husband does hold grudges against. There's this guy he knows who had someone fired on false pretenses to make room for a friend of his to be hired. He holds a really big grudge against both of them for that. There is nothing they could do to get on his good side at this point. That's just an example.
    Holy crap, I hate that kind of politics. There were a couple of people in my last firm who were like that. There is nothing I hate worse than someone who flat-out lies about someone for their own personal gain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SenoritaC View Post
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    I know some SLIs who do hold grudges and could really us a diplomatic IEE to help them out. 9w8 Sp dominant SLI, for what its worth. She creates problems without knowing it.

    Unusually, I seem to have come across an IEE that holds grudges, in a very vibrant way. But I don't quite understand it, yet.

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    I definitely hold grudges on the grounds of immorality and disingenuity.
    If I feel someone has done wrong, I cease communication with them and regard them icily.

    My opinions of these people are only really liable to change if there was some sort of circumstance behind the behavior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Default View Post
    I definitely hold grudges on the grounds of immorality and disingenuity.
    If I feel someone has done wrong, I cease communication with them and regard them icily.

    My opinions of these people are only really liable to change if there was some sort of circumstance behind the behavior.
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    By that, I mean insincere, conniving people who do things at the expense of other people.

    Does that help?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Default View Post
    By that, I mean insincere, conniving people who do things at the expense of other people.

    Does that help?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thePirate View Post
    lol just conveniently happen to forget that did you?

    yes, they hold grudges. they are actually pretty judgmental despite their live and let live attitude.
    YES! I hereby judge you and hold you in contempt...FOREVER!!! nah. You're cool. Live a long and happy life. See.
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