Originally Posted by
Beautiful sky
Oh the argument in this thread.
I had lunch today with my ILE friend. She had just purchased a lottery ticket and was looking at the numbers on it, trying to see if she could read some symbol or meaning in the two numbers that came up. The riddle is the meaning in something beyond it's existence. I teased her for looking beyond the concrete and she said "well, I'm like Einstein in that regard, no?" I said yes.
Look at Ne, and Jung; it's drive and purpose is motivating others. ILE attract a lot of people because they are able to read into the being of the person...."Maritsa, you're a sensitive person and while I see that you can easily obey people, I'm not sure that someone as manipulative and controlling is right for you." She sees that in me and through that vision of me she's able to encourage me, provide the outer me and if you're important enough to them they can push and push you in certain directions to realize your potential.
I can't say anything more...I love her. She and I have a lot in common; we both want independence and space to do our own thing but she says unlike her, I'm a lot more willing to give myself over to someone I love. She's right in that regard; I'm a lot more sensitive, while she's fragile on the inside she's stern on the outside. I'm just fragile all around.
She's very purposeful about what she wears sometimes, but mostly, on a Saturday, she wears jogging outfits; she's particular about how she organizes things, very perfectionist like attitude towards her work.
Here's the Fi PoLR
When she and I first met she was hesitant about our friendship but as time went by she and I are much more comfortable sharing our inner experiences with one another; she can either trust people very easily or make out who they are and contemplate on which category to put them in. So she behaves with a bit of restraint around strangers, keeping a psychological distance, but never does she not allow people to come in and experience her; she just doesn't jump or leap in. I can swing either way too, depending on how I feel.
I can see how she can offend people easily and not see it; she states the perceptions she gets leaning back from Fi to her base function. And in perceptions/possibilities/intuition there are things about people that people are aware of that hurt them about who they are and which people just aren't comfortable about having someone discover that and read that in them, she can read that and say it, again, just because she says "Maritsa, you're a fragile person" and I may be someone who is emotional about me being a fragile person and I start to cry when that's revealed it doesn't mean that the ILE did it on purpose to offend me. In contrast to me. I withhold a lot of what I perceive in others from telling them because I empathize, hence I'm an introvert, aka "not the type to have their thoughts on the tip of my tongue." So, I will not say "hey, you're a selfish human being" instead think "oh, he probably feels his own selfishness and is hurt by it, I shouldn't say it to make it sound like I'm intruding on his feelings of himself and hurt him more" which is subjective as opposed to objective because I could be very very wrong about how the person takes what I say. I, from my own feelings of how I wouldn't want others pointing out the obvious would not say what an ILE would say freely.
She can get really stern and say what she wants, neglecting how they will feel in the name of "truth." I often can not push someone to cry. I back off after reading certain emotional cues; she's done it before.