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    is this how ILEs and SEIs commence the coupling?


    Intro: this is a conversation verbatim from plenty of fish, to my phone…I lie alot in it but eh, i got laid. Even though this is through text, I can’t stress enough that this is basically how I talk to all girls I’m trying to get with and MANY of the conversation literally go just like this. I just don’t happen to have them in text. And yes…this girl was hot

    (open with something different)

    Me: Hi

    According to your profile

    You have all your limbs attatched
    You speak english
    You kill plants
    You swear alot
    You want to be shot with lasers

    These are 5 o the 8 things i look for in a girl so i propose we go on a date to discuss possible mating

    Please respond within 3 business days or I will commence in eating my weight in ice cream

    (chevelle….reallly…)

    Her:
    According to your profile:

    You quite possibly have been in jail
    Like to destroy things in and around your neighborhood
    You are secure enough with your masculinity to wear a Twilight shirt
    Say fart, and hopefully do, fart
    Live in ______, where I was born

    Maybe I could acquire the other three characteristics I need to acquire Goddess Status.

    Did you eat your own weight in ice cream anyways…? I vote Banana Split.

    (Fart….really?)

    Me: If you had the other 3 characteristics I’d probably come to CS right now and attempt to make love to you on a mountain top

    But since you don’t we are gonna have to go on a date or something and flirt. Or maybe just meet up on Northgate like normal people

    Im so sorry you were born in _____ it must of scarred you for life

    Her:
    Are you from BCS or something?

    Good luck finding a mountain top close to here in which to have sex with me on. (small shit test)

    And yes, it did scar me for life. Raised on Dyess and everything.

    Me:
    haha alright maybe we could just have sex under a waterfall or something (blow off shit test)

    Im in CS alot and about to move there for work n school

    Your poor girl, I used to be air force, its makes people weird….like plenty of fish weird =P

    Her:
    We could go to Austin, there’s a waterfall there! I’m ready! (shit test pass = amped up sexuality)

    You’re going back to school? What did you get your BS in?

    And I agree, you are pretty ****ing weird. Air Force did a number on you.

    Me:
    haha DTFUW (down to **** under a waterfall) i love it =P

    Random Information about me

    I think we are both kinda weird lol…so is this site lol. Shoot me your number so we can work out this waterfall agreement =P

    Her:
    Good idea with the waterfall, will mask my loud moaning which is apparently what I’m really good at.

    I was going to call you an idiot for coming to CS simply to have fun…and then I remembered where you’re from and I thought better of it. What are you going to go to school for?

    Yes, I think we’re both very strange and this site is pretty close. I’ll be graduating in May so I won’t be here past June or so (hopefully.) Wouldn’t want you to fall in love with me or anything.

    Me:
    okay see your mean because thinking about moaning turns me on, and since you live in cs makes me very sexually frustrated

    rude

    haha i travel all over texas and I always have the most fun on northgate..cs kinda sucks for other stuff though

    okay no more being pof pen pals whats your number

    Her:
    Ugh. You’re weird and that intrigues me so…

    55555 number


    TO TEXTING

    1(me) : Im not sure how it got to this but im totally picturing fucking you under a waterfall right now

    2: So i did some fb stalking and you do not live in austrailian. Thats sad because i doubt it will ever happen (shit test)

    1: Haha i did 2 monthes ago, ha ya we will prob have to fuck in bed or something….laaaame (shit test destroyed)

    2: I want to live in austraila….!! would get so turned on by the accent wherever Id go. Wet at the grocery store, wet at the theater, Id be screwed (but never literally which sucks (look what happens when you pass shit test)

    1:Haha i can do a pretty sweet one. Thank for letting me know how to get into your pants (her name)

    2: Well fuck. You dont ride bikes to do ya? Cause id be done

    1.Ive always wanted to do a girl on a motorcycle porno style if that counts

    2.THAT does NOT count. You fail. And thats fun by the way (shit test for lack of better words)

    1.Haha, maybe if your cool ill let you show me how…Ride a motorcycle that is (shit test her right back)

    2.Im not cool your screwed (still fucking with me)

    1.Guess someones not getting laid by a austrailian guy now (im the prize)

    2.Your not austrailian i want the real thing (still fucking with me)

    And i want a cool girl. Wed never work and we just have cold emotionless sex all day, you fail (im the prize)

    I dont think my vag could handle sex all day especially if your big. Send me a pic ( I win)

    I then link her to my website Ehowtobuy___ (not public yet). And changed the text on it to say IM GONNA FUCK YOU ON A MOTORCYCLE, with a picture of me flipping her off
    2: HAHA you win, the guy at the top though looks like he has a mullet

    1: Lol i like you (her name)

    2: Haha, i know lets have babies (game point. Match alex)

    1: Cool ill see you on this day
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    It's close to how i flirt. Still not convinced it's type related though, id just say it was good flirting....

    (hmm. on second thoughts, gamma's would hate it...it's probably alpha yeah)

    Edit: oh god... you just said "shit test"... get those pua's out of your head..yes it works, yes it'll backfire in the long run, yes i know what i'm talking about......

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    I don't flirt like that

    Actually tbh...I pretty much suck at flirting but it does sound Ne/Fe.

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    It sounds kinda dry.... too straight-forward (not vocabulary- or assertivness-wise)- it lacks the sexy flavour, mistique, build-up and ....wetness, for the lack of the better world. But that's just my taste, everybody flirts differently. Probably Ne something.

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    The grammar.
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    Lol I can be kinda straightforward and dry too (that's a part of the appeal! Ne people love the really "dry" Si b/c it's funny to them that someone can be so... stuck to the ground) but honestly where this flirting falls short is that it's too overtly sexual, lacks the distance and charm of dancing around something for at least a tiny bit. That being said I can *totally* see alpha being like this... lots of Fi-PoLR men lack a bit of... finesse...

    ^ but actually one true thing is that I don't find the courtship phase to be that interesting, I'd rather just see someone, evaluate if it's right or not, and then be together with them within hours if it is, forgoing the whole "process" (and flirt with someone after that already happens)

    Addendum:

    I didn't mean like, "be with them be with them" but rather more like... I don't find the hunting/flirting/drawing out process to be that exciting in and of itself, it's more so the emotions that matter and if it feels right I don't see why we can't just jump into being really open with each other right away haha. (alphaz...) But I can see how some people need to be lured out into expressing their true selves, etc, etc...

    Addendum two:

    but this way of talking about sex is still annoying though. hard to explain. ugh.

    *needs more sleep today*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scapegrace View Post
    The grammar.
    See? Gamma's hate it!

    Quote Originally Posted by lemontrees View Post
    Lol I can be kinda straightforward and dry too (that's a part of the appeal! Ne people love the really "dry" Si b/c it's funny to them that someone can be so... stuck to the ground) but honestly where this flirting falls short is that it's too overtly sexual, lacks the distance and charm of dancing around something for at least a tiny bit. That being said I can *totally* see alpha being like this... lots of Fi-PoLR men lack a bit of... finesse...

    ^ but actually one true thing is that I don't find the courtship phase to be that interesting, I'd rather just see someone, evaluate if it's right or not, and then be together with them within hours if it is, forgoing the whole "process" (and flirt with someone after that already happens)
    Agreed, it lacks finesse and is a bit too strong for my taste too... I almost never really "sext" unless i've slept with them already and even then i like innuendo over "i want to fuck you in a waterfall" <- huh?

    It's alpha with learned methods from PUA. Pua is more beta like... I think that's where the overtness comes from. Still, dude got layed so can't argue with results

    Still, he probably netted a IEI and she'll get disappointment in his lack of Rape/Pillage/Burn beta behaviour and dump him.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reficulris View Post
    See? Gamma's hate it!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Reficulris View Post
    See? Gamma's hate it!



    Agreed, it lacks finesse and is a bit too strong for my taste too... I almost never really "sext" unless i've slept with them already and even then i like innuendo over "i want to fuck you in a waterfall" <- huh?

    It's alpha with learned methods from PUA. Pua is more beta like... I think that's where the overtness comes from. Still, dude got layed so can't argue with results

    Still, he probably netted a IEI and she'll get disappointment in his lack of Rape/Pillage/Burn beta behaviour and dump him.....

    ILE ex talked about PUA sometimes...

    *shudders*

    I think once I got really upset and said, "why can't these men just relate to someone else like another human being and be attentive to them in the same room rather than using stupid techniques" and he exploded and was like YOU HAVE NO EMPATHY YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE TOTALLY UNABLE TO RELATE TO ANOTHER HUMAN BEING.

    we're not together anymore

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    Quote Originally Posted by lemontrees View Post
    ILE ex talked about PUA sometimes...

    *shudders*

    I think once I got really upset and said, "why can't these men just relate to someone else like another human being and be attentive to them in the same room rather than using stupid techniques" and he exploded and was like YOU HAVE NO EMPATHY YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE TOTALLY UNABLE TO RELATE TO ANOTHER HUMAN BEING.

    we're not together anymore
    Huh? why did you break up?? That's what SEI's want right?


    PUA's are commendible and sad... It's commendable that they're trying to improve their people skills. The way most go about it is horribly sad though...


    Edit: The first rule of PUA is YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT PUA!!!! (especially not with gfs, idiot)

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    Quote Originally Posted by lemontrees View Post
    YOU HAVE NO EMPATHY YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE TOTALLY UNABLE TO RELATE TO ANOTHER HUMAN BEING.
    Hahaha this cracks me up actually....


    There was a comic in holland who had this scene where the guy was like "Why are you always trying to change me? Can't you accept me like I am??!?!" and than the girl responded with "You don't accept me for who I am either, if you did you'd accept that I was someone who does not accept you for who you are"

    ^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reficulris View Post


    Agreed, it lacks finesse and is a bit too strong for my taste too... I almost never really "sext" unless i've slept with them already and even then i like innuendo over "i want to fuck you in a waterfall" <- huh?

    It's alpha with learned methods from PUA. Pua is more beta like... I think that's where the overtness comes from. Still, dude got layed so can't argue with results

    Still, he probably netted a IEI and she'll get disappointment in his lack of Rape/Pillage/Burn beta behaviour and dump him.....
    Quote Originally Posted by lemontrees View Post
    Lol I can be kinda straightforward and dry too (that's a part of the appeal! Ne people love the really "dry" Si b/c it's funny to them that someone can be so... stuck to the ground) but honestly where this flirting falls short is that it's too overtly sexual, lacks the distance and charm of dancing around something for at least a tiny bit. That being said I can *totally* see alpha being like this... lots of Fi-PoLR men lack a bit of... finesse...

    ^ but actually one true thing is that I don't find the courtship phase to be that interesting, I'd rather just see someone, evaluate if it's right or not, and then be together with them within hours if it is, forgoing the whole "process" (and flirt with someone after that already happens)
    Nooo, you didn't get my point I love bluntness, crude language and rapey topics, but I like to flirt more intelligently. Much, much more explicit conversations can be conveyed in way more erotic and stylish fashion. I don't understand why would you even bother to sext if it's so...boring. Why not just get together and fuck ?

    Good luck finding a mountain top close to here in which to have sex with me on.
    I dont think my vag could handle sex all day especially if your big.
    Good idea with the waterfall, will mask my loud moaning which is apparently what I’m really good at.

    I.just.can't. So not sexy. Oh well, I guess not everybody can have a way with words

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    Quote Originally Posted by darya View Post
    Nooo, you didn't get my point I love bluntness, crude language and rapey topics, but I like to flirt more intelligently. Much, much more explicit conversations can be conveyed in way more erotic and stylish fashion. I don't understand why would you even bother to sext if it's so...boring. Why not just get together and fuck ?

    Good luck finding a mountain top close to here in which to have sex with me on.
    I dont think my vag could handle sex all day especially if your big.
    Good idea with the waterfall, will mask my loud moaning which is apparently what I’m really good at.

    I.just.can't. So not sexy. Oh well, I guess not everybody can have a way with words
    Which part of my post merited quoting you dirty beta-flirt?

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    EDIT- decided to pm it lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lemontrees View Post
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    Sounds like a great decision.

    I hope you realised that my comment was meant in gest?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reficulris View Post
    Sounds like a great decision.

    I hope you realised that my comment was meant in gest?
    I think I'm just really sleepy today lol.... *wants to roll on my stomach, tuck my tail, and be fed, taken care of, etc, for the next few hours / days*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reficulris View Post
    Huh? why did you break up?? That's what SEI's want right?


    PUA's are commendible and sad... It's commendable that they're trying to improve their people skills. The way most go about it is horribly sad though...


    Edit: The first rule of PUA is YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT PUA!!!! (especially not with gfs, idiot)
    I've had so many guys (usually Americans ) talk to me about their PUA approach, after their technique didn't work on me or even simultaniously. I can see right through it.

    The thing is, some guys are just naturally earth shatteringly charismatic and others can't really fake it. In case you're not like that (most people are not, me included ), your best approach is to just be genuinely friendly and try not to appear needy/desperate. The worst is when someone who isn't cocky & funny tries to "learn" it. Just be you on your best day and someone will like you as you are.

    On second thought, PUA approach probably works on not so bright girls. I've just never found flirting/sleeping with stupid people arousing, but it's probably different for guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lemontrees View Post
    I think I'm just really sleepy today lol.... *wants to roll on my stomach, tuck my tail, and be fed, taken care of, etc, for the next few hours / days*
    You must be ILE!


    *tucks lemontrees in, makes a hot cup of tea and turns on the telemarketeer channel on low volume* (/onedimensionalSi)

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    Quote Originally Posted by darya View Post
    I've had so many guys (usually Americans ) talk to me about their PUA approach, after their technique didn't work on me or even simultaniously. I can see right through it.

    The thing is, some guys are just naturally earth shatteringly charismatic and others can't really fake it. In case you're not like that (most people are not, me included ), your best approach is to just be genuinely friendly and try not to appear needy/desperate. The worst is when someone who isn't cocky & funny tries to "learn" it. Just be you on your best day and someone will like you as you are.

    On second thought, PUA approach probably works on not so bright girls. I've just never found flirting/sleeping with stupid people arousing, but it's probably different for guys.
    I disagree.... when you meet one of the few great ones they'll be able to charm their way into your pants, no matter how intelligent you are. Actually, intelligent beautifull women are usually easier targets than the less intelligent and or less attractive ones. PUA is build around the presuppositions of that kind of opposition. Intelligenent woman are usually also immagnitive and will go along with great banter while the less intelligent women will respond poorly to that. Also, PUA has long evolved away from what most people think game is. In that sense it's a race against what people "know" is game and what's the new way of approaching the subject.... like a war between virus-scanners and virusses

    Actually few people are naturally charming/charismatic. There's a lot that can be learned and trained. Pua doesn't fail at what it aims to do (build the skills needed to charm women) it fails at the ultimate goal (being a succesfull human being). People asume that when one is charismatic, they've always been that way... most people who are charismatic went through a harsh learning curve. If you met them somewhere on that curve you'd reject them (in all ways, sale, politically, as partner) but once they get to a certain level you'll ignore that they once were dorks...

    The reason most women think pua is crap is that they meet a lot of the mediocre ones. They make great fools out of themselves.

    I've had women talk to bad puas who explained all about game and such (a stupid move to make in the first place) only to be swayed by me or one of my friends a bit later. (usually with the same kind of tricks) One of the things we could tie into was using their mistakes and "rescuing" the woman from the idiots....

    The reason I think it's crap is because i've seen what happens to those guys who get into it and never get out. The actually lose touch with all normal romantic feelings and instead start to see it as a competitive thing to get "good" at. Also, if you get a woman that way, your relationship will always stay a struggle for dominance on some level, just because that's what the stage is set like. It's generally a very dangerous game, even though it does get you laid...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reficulris View Post
    Which part of my post merited quoting you dirty beta-flirt?
    I just wanted to see "i want to fuck you in a waterfall" <- huh?" written once again, cause it made me . Kidding, I just wanna make sure that Beta is not represented like some sort of idiotic ape quadra I've met lots of highly intelligent SLEs with hysterical (although always vulgar) senses of humour. Besides, sexting and flirting in person are not the same. You sext to get the heat up and imagination rolling, in person everything can be said with body language alone .

    "dirty beta-flirt" sounds like a part of a computer hardware

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    Honestly I think the worst flirting I ever experienced was all from delta.

    "Are you sure your microwave is broken... maybe you just don't know how to use it properly... I can come over and take a look"

    "You have to come see my cat... it's scared of people though, you have to close the door..."

    "I have a copy of the last poems [one of my favorite poets] wrote before he died. But it's in my bed room. Here, let's go in so I can find that book..."

    ^ maybe some of this was just general nerdiness lolol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darya View Post
    I just wanted to see "i want to fuck you in a waterfall" <- huh?" written once again, cause it made me . Kidding, I just wanna make sure that Beta is not represented like some sort of idiotic ape quadra I've met lots of highly intelligent SLEs with hysterical (although always vulgar) senses of humour. Besides, sexting and flirting in person are not the same. You sext to get the heat up and imagination rolling, in person everything can be said with body language alone .

    "dirty beta-flirt" sounds like a part of a computer hardware
    hmm was that how it came across? Beta's are best at flirting, not because they're "ape like" but because they're masters of power dynamics.

    Alpha's suck at that, so the stupid flirting techniques emmerge when alpha's emulate beta's (basically pua leans heavily on the presupposition that all women are IEI so the SLE is the best to impersonate).

    I agree with all the other points in your post.

    Dirty-beta-flirt is the name of the computer controlled sex-bot i'm building around your personality. (<- ILE flirting )

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    Quote Originally Posted by lemontrees View Post
    Honestly I think the worst flirting I ever experienced was all from delta.

    "Are you sure your microwave is broken... maybe you just don't know how to use it properly... I can come over and take a look"

    "You have to come see my cat... it's scared of people though, you have to close the door..."

    "I have a copy of the last poems [one of my favorite poets] wrote before he died. But it's in my bed room. Here, let's go in so I can find that book..."

    ^ maybe some of this was just general nerdiness lolol.
    I don't identify that as flirting at all... it's all manipulation to get you into the bedroom, but I hope the guys at least said something to you BEFORE trying to get you into the bedroom...?!?!

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    There wasn't really great flirting buildup, that I can remember.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lemontrees View Post
    There wasn't really great flirting buildup, that I can remember.
    they short-sold you.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by lemontrees View Post
    I think I'm just really sleepy today lol.... *wants to roll on my stomach, tuck my tail, and be fed, taken care of, etc, for the next few hours / days*
    E4 girls are such cat ladies

    Quote Originally Posted by Reficulris View Post
    I disagree.... when you meet one of the few great ones they'll be able to charm their way into your pants, no matter how intelligent you are. Actually, intelligent beautifull women are usually easier targets than the less intelligent and or less attractive ones. PUA is build around the presuppositions of that kind of opposition. Intelligenent woman are usually also immagnitive and will go along with great banter while the less intelligent women will respond poorly to that. Also, PUA has long evolved away from what most people think game is. In that sense it's a race against what people "know" is game and what's the new way of approaching the subject.... like a war between virus-scanners and virusses

    Actually few people are naturally charming/charismatic. There's a lot that can be learned and trained. Pua doesn't fail at what it aims to do (build the skills needed to charm women) it fails at the ultimate goal (being a succesfull human being). People asume that when one is charismatic, they've always been that way... most people who are charismatic went through a harsh learning curve. If you met them somewhere on that curve you'd reject them (in all ways, sale, politically, as partner) but once they get to a certain level you'll ignore that they once were dorks...

    The reason most women think pua is crap is that they meet a lot of the mediocre ones. They make great fools out of themselves.

    I've had women talk to bad puas who explained all about game and such (a stupid move to make in the first place) only to be swayed by me or one of my friends a bit later. (usually with the same kind of tricks) One of the things we could tie into was using their mistakes and "rescuing" the woman from the idiots....

    The reason I think it's crap is because i've seen what happens to those guys who get into it and never get out. The actually lose touch with all normal romantic feelings and instead start to see it as a competitive thing to get "good" at. Also, if you get a woman that way, your relationship will always stay a struggle for dominance on some level, just because that's what the stage is set like. It's generally a very dangerous game, even though it does get you laid...
    Yeah, I certainly believe you can work on your charisma quite a bit and there are certainly "tricks" that most women (and men) fall for, but it's hard for me to believe you can go from being a socially awkward guy to a major player who bedds (lol, is that even a word??) girls all around the globe. All the ladies men I know have been like that since forever- they just know what makes girls tick naturally or even better, they don't even care and just have magnetic personalities. Humour and likebility are in my opinion very hard to learn. If you repel most people your whole life, how are you going to learn to be not just non-repelling, but also charismatic? PUA probably works best for guys who are cute and likeable on their own, they just come off as shy/awkward/needy and the approach teaches them how to play a lttle bit more hard to get, like a prize etc.

    Negging, intentional lowering of the girl's self-confidence -> stuff like that makes me puke. It works only on girls with low self confidence anyway. Playful banter with some light jabbs is one thing, but rude remarks are just pathetic. And I totally agree with you, people who get to much into game-playing with the opposite sex eventually lose their humanity and see others just as objects to conquer. That's no way to happiness and love.

    But I admit I don't really know about all different PUA techniques. Maybe I've been swept off my feet by some undercover masters in the past .

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    Quote Originally Posted by lemontrees View Post
    Honestly I think the worst flirting I ever experienced was all from delta.

    "Are you sure your microwave is broken... maybe you just don't know how to use it properly... I can come over and take a look"

    "You have to come see my cat... it's scared of people though, you have to close the door..."

    "I have a copy of the last poems [one of my favorite poets] wrote before he died. But it's in my bed room. Here, let's go in so I can find that book..."

    ^ maybe some of this was just general nerdiness lolol.
    Lool, it's kinda adorable really. I once went to a guy's appartment to have a coffee (at least that was the official explanation I have been given). When we arrived he offered to give me a tour of the flat. It happened to be quite a short tour - he led me to his bedroom and said : "This is my bed" - while we were standing by his bed

    Quote Originally Posted by Reficulris View Post
    hmm was that how it came across? Beta's are best at flirting, not because they're "ape like" but because they're masters of power dynamics.

    Alpha's suck at that, so the stupid flirting techniques emmerge when alpha's emulate beta's (basically pua leans heavily on the presupposition that all women are IEI so the SLE is the best to impersonate).

    I agree with all the other points in your post.

    Dirty-beta-flirt is the name of the computer controlled sex-bot i'm building around your personality. (<- ILE flirting )
    I see all those hours at PUA school were worth the money

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    Quote Originally Posted by darya View Post
    E4 girls are such cat ladies



    Yeah, I certainly believe you can work on your charisma quite a bit and there are certainly "tricks" that most women (and men) fall for, but it's hard for me to believe you can go from being a socially awkward guy to a major player who bedds girls all around the globe. All the ladies men I know have been like that since ever- they just know what makes girls tick naturally or even better, they don't even care and just have magnetic personalities. Humour and likebility are in my opinion very hard to learn. If you repel most people your whole life, how are you going to learn to be not just non-repelling, but also charismatic? PUA probably works best for guys who are cute and likeable on their own, they just come off as shy/awkward/needy and the approach teaches them how to play a lttle bit more hard to get, like a prize etc.
    Hmhm, it takes a lot of time. The better stuff based on PUA works on getting those awkward people to a certain level of acceptable life-style first. Nowadays a lot focusses on "inner game" as in, developping one self rather than learning "tricks". Still, the goal is single-mindedly aimed at bedding the greatest possible quantity of women....

    I think the best value is for "normal" guys to just dip into it a little bit and get their flirting confidence up. Beyond that it gets dangerous.

    Negging, intentional lowering of the girl's self-confidence -> stuff like that makes me puke. It works only on girls with low self confidence anyway. Playful banter with some light jabbs is one thing, but rude remarks are just pathetic. And I totally agree with you, people who get to much into game-playing with the opposite sex eventually lose their humanity and see others just as objects to conquer. That's no way to happiness and love.
    Yeah, negging is the dinasaur of "game". People see the Pickup artist show and think it's all about peacocking and negging... those techniques have been just as obsolete as the seduction hypnosis techniques. Sure they can work, but the side effects are too gruesome...

    But even the "better" (inner game) techniques have the wrong approach to life in general. Getting a nice life "in order to attract women" completely misses the point .

    But I admit I don't really know about all different PUA techniques. Maybe I've been swept off my feet by some undercover masters in the past .
    meh, it doesn't really matter if you have... I think it's basically a non-female problem/discussion. Males should be aware of the effects of their actions. If they use game, fair ennough. Use it responsible and no-one will care if you're a pick up master or geniunely charismatic (because the difference will have desolved).

    It's like make-up for women. Applied properly it might make you more attractive, applied wrongly it backfires. But in both circumstnaces you'll need to be a human being after the first contact and see if you're good for each other... this last part is what almost ALWAYS goes wrong with PUA's....

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    Quote Originally Posted by darya View Post
    Lool, it's kinda adorable really. I once went to a guy's appartment to have a coffee (s the official explanation). When we arrived he offered to give me a tour of the flat. It happened to be quite a short tour - he led me to his bedroom and said : "This is my bed" - while we were standing by his bed
    I totally use the "tour of my appartment".
    That or watch a movie on the couch and make out there instead.....



    I see all those hours at PUA school were worth the money
    ^^

    When using game I only get IEI's.......... it's so counter productive...... it always ends the same way! (but at least it's better than the crash and burns with EIE's....)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reficulris View Post
    Hahaha this cracks me up actually....


    There was a comic in holland who had this scene where the guy was like "Why are you always trying to change me? Can't you accept me like I am??!?!" and than the girl responded with "You don't accept me for who I am either, if you did you'd accept that I was someone who does not accept you for who you are"

    ^^
    Or unattractive guys who complain about shallow girls but only go for supermodels

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reficulris View Post

    When using game I only get IEI's.......... it's so counter productive...... it always ends the same way! (but at least it's better than the crash and burns with EIE's....)
    Damn those suggestible IEI's...they don't beat you at your game like EIE's do ?

    You're right about beta though, no power struggle, no fun

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    Quote Originally Posted by darya View Post
    Damn those suggestible IEI's...they don't beat you at your game like EIE's do ?

    You're right about beta though, no power struggle, no fun
    Yeah, EIE's are the powerhouses of game....


    IEI's don't beat me no, they get bored with me when they find out I cry at movies and sappy songs and lack any remote trace of Se....



    On a completely unrelated topic: I LOVE LOVE LOVE ellie goulding... Can I be delta now?

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    Sounds like two people that want to bang. Under waterfalls.
    Moonlight will fall
    Winter will end
    Harvest will come
    Your heart will mend

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reficulris View Post
    Yeah, EIE's are the powerhouses of game....


    IEI's don't beat me no, they get bored with me when they find out I cry at movies and sappy songs and lack any remote trace of Se....


    On a completely unrelated topic: I LOVE LOVE LOVE ellie goulding... Can I be delta now?
    Very random I must say son, you have about 50 years of growing up to do and then you can apply for delta

    I see what you're doing here. You're applying an adorable baby giraffe PUA technique which melts girls' panties with sweet tears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by munenori2 View Post
    Sounds like two people that want to bang. Under waterfalls.
    sounds like a person procrastinating her work responsibilities till 4.00 am. You can't blame me if waterfalls sound more appealing atm.
    Last edited by darya; 05-23-2014 at 01:47 AM.

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    I just asked a girl how she feels about lie detectors and physical torture... I guess Ile flirting IS fucked up.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reficulris View Post
    I just asked a girl how she feels about lie detectors and physical torture... I guess Ile flirting IS fucked up.....
    Oh god she responds favorable....must be an iei again...

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    i was kind of intimated by you until i saw this. now i am not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lungs View Post
    i was kind of intimated by you until i saw this. now i am not.
    I'm a baby giraffe for god sake, how could I possibly be intimidating!?!?!?!?!?

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