Well, I think I'm seeking, which consist of cracking jokes frequently.
Well, I think I'm seeking, which consist of cracking jokes frequently.
ILE "Searcher"
Socionics: ENTp
DCNH: Dominant --> perhaps Normalizing
Enneagram: 7w6 "Enthusiast"
MBTI: ENTJ "Field Marshall" or ENTP "Inventor"
Astrological sign: Aquarius
To learn, read. To know, write. To master, teach.
I don't think the suggestive function manifests itself socially, I tend to see it as a privately used function, one that you often keep quit about, a function that 'seeks' others who are using it as an ego function. What you are describing, reminds me a lot more of the mobilizing function.
I do a lot of Si myself, but typically there will not be other people around.
ETA: we are talking about the 5th function here. aren't we? Slater's post now has me confused?
“I have never tried that before, so I think I should definitely be able to do that.” --- Pippi Longstocking
Excuse me, I made I mistake. I was talking about hidden agenda.
I've read people want to enjoy their 5th function, but they find they are not good enough at it, so they need someone's help. That's why we look for our duals, who are supposed to be good at that function.
At the same time, we want to have success at "being good at our 6th function", but we want to achieve it on our own.
ILE "Searcher"
Socionics: ENTp
DCNH: Dominant --> perhaps Normalizing
Enneagram: 7w6 "Enthusiast"
MBTI: ENTJ "Field Marshall" or ENTP "Inventor"
Astrological sign: Aquarius
To learn, read. To know, write. To master, teach.
I think that your dual seeking 5th functions plays the role like its name says:
You seek people who execute that particular function, because when you see the function in action it somehow tickles your mind.
How this seeking manifests itself I don't know. I don't think you seek it like food when you are hungry, it's more like you find it when you bump into it, simply because you always have a need for it.
homo/hetero = same/different
verted = extra/introverted.
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Note how 1st and 6th are the same colour (homoverted) and the the 1st and 5th are different colours (heteroverted).
my Te-seeking manifests in constantly asking people to provide me with information in a very exact and rigorously defined way.
SOME people consider this to be OCD, but I know better.
EII; E6(w5)
i am flakey
lol My ESE husband does this sometimes too. He gets REALLY proud of his "ideas". It's very cute. lol I'm less proud of the ideas and more proud when they're implemented.
I don't know how I seek Se, really. I have one SLE friend I see on a regular basis. I do tease him. He's really good with comebacks. And they're usually strong and forceful It's like I push him and he pushes back.
IEI-Fe 4w3
You seek by surrounding yourself with strong people.
ILE "Searcher"
Socionics: ENTp
DCNH: Dominant --> perhaps Normalizing
Enneagram: 7w6 "Enthusiast"
MBTI: ENTJ "Field Marshall" or ENTP "Inventor"
Astrological sign: Aquarius
To learn, read. To know, write. To master, teach.
IME some SLIs manifest Ne-seeking by being pessimistic and judgmental, while simultaneously expressing frustration at themselves for this quality.
they're sort of like "uck. he is terrible" followed by "why do I have to be so negative and narrow-minded?" <locks him/herself in room to play sad songs on repeat for 3 hours>.
EII; E6(w5)
i am flakey
Fe seeking types, like meself might try to draw others in by expressing certain inner moods.
Like I might be very silly, happy, and "extraverted" or I might withdraw and become subdued and "dark". Not necessarily in a corny emo sense, but people can have deep emotions and I don't see why I can't express negative ones too.
The end is nigh
I thought this thread was about Dual Seeking, not HA.
EII; E6(w5)
i am flakey
Um she made reference to an ESFj seeking Ne (HA)
and I consider dual seeking to concern both of your duals elements and I believe thats what the thread poster thought too.
The end is nigh
5th function: your environment scanner (where's my dual?)
6th function: your siren (signaling: "yoohoo, my dual, here's where I am!")
“I have never tried that before, so I think I should definitely be able to do that.” --- Pippi Longstocking
“I have never tried that before, so I think I should definitely be able to do that.” --- Pippi Longstocking
Most of ISTp's negative observations are actually correct. Life sucks. The life that we typically lead in the "developed" world anyway.
EII; E6(w5)
i am flakey
oh, well, i think the difference is that SEEs get ILIs out of their dumpy moods by forcing them to do stuff.
ILI consternation needs SEE activity.
SLIs "what is" needs IEE "what could be."
The difference between ILI and SLI negativity IMO is that the former knows all the possible options and will just pick the bleakest and go out on a limb with it. so they need someone to show them that reality isn't that bad; the latter, OTOH, can't actually imagine anything other than the reality right in front of them, so they need someone to help them consider other options and room for potential.
EII; E6(w5)
i am flakey
Very apt, up until the "sad songs" part. I prefer to either talk to myself until I get lost on some nostalgic ramble that has nothing to do with what made me feel so negative in the first place, or I might play some active, driving music like metal or techno. Sad songs are boring, predictable, whiny, and annoying.
SLIOriginally Posted by Charles Bukowski
Climb the mountains and get their good tidings. Nature's peace will flow into you as sunshine flows into trees. The winds will blow their own freshness into you, and the storms their energy, while cares will drop off like autumn leaves.
John Muir
yes! I bitch almost constantly when under stress. and it's amusing when ISTps bitch also, since I don't think they do it that often, but feel comfortable doing so w/ ENFps.
Other types can start to think I'm mean, or take what I'm saying too seriously, but I'm just venting...so I like that about ISTps.
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How is Ti Dual Seeking different than Te Dual Seeking?
I
I think mostly my Se-DS is displayed by me taking very passive role, and trying to get other people to do things I should just do myself. This isn't so much of conscious plan, more of a subconcious attitude problem I guess. And I don't directly ask for it, it's probably more evident from my general body language and how I present the issue, and from the lack of taking any action. Usually LSIs are the most eager to help me, I guess they see me kinda helpless in that respect. Often SE-egos just try to encourage me to do it myself, or sort of teach how to become more active, but I find them actually doing it preferable
Exactly.
...the human race will disappear. Other races will appear and disappear in turn. The sky will become icy and void, pierced by the feeble light of half-dead stars. Which will also disappear. Everything will disappear. And what human beings do is just as free of sense as the free motion of elementary particles. Good, evil, morality, feelings? Pure 'Victorian fictions'.
INTp
...the human race will disappear. Other races will appear and disappear in turn. The sky will become icy and void, pierced by the feeble light of half-dead stars. Which will also disappear. Everything will disappear. And what human beings do is just as free of sense as the free motion of elementary particles. Good, evil, morality, feelings? Pure 'Victorian fictions'.
INTp
Ne+Ti makes me a random nerd/
duhhhhh
D-SEI 9w1
This is me and my dual being scientific together
For some reason I've met a slew of IEIs lately and I've been surprised at how much they vary, and I think it must be a subtype thing. They can seem so different depending on sub-type, to the point they almost seem like a different type. Fe subs can seem really gushy to me (not in a bad way, but I prefer more stoic people, in dating anyway, probably because of my duals).
Ni subtypes can seem like ISTps to me. I Know they aren't, but they seem that way at first. They have that warmth right below the surface in a similar way as ISTps and can do that cool detached thing which draws in the ENFps.
Also, Fe subtype guys can also appear like ENFps or ENTps when in social situations. Sometimes, they can seem too eager to please w/ so much Fe that it makes me uncomfortable.
And would the Se-seeking you're talking about also happen w/ teasing? I dated an IEI Ni (I think) who would for instance, complain about something. Then complain a few minutes later. Then mope. Then be grumpy. (and it would be something that really wasn't fair, like saying I was "late" when we didn't have plans and I'd said I could swing by in an hour and I arrived in an hour and 30 minutes). Until I'd finally say something like "look, you should be happy I even came over at all." Then the IEI would agree. And that would be that. But I would be confused as to why 1) I said something that blunt, and 2) why the IEI didn't get mad at me for being so blunt.
Another instance...INFp guy says he likes a certain hairstyle. I don't have that hairstyle naturally. He says several times how much he likes this hairstyle. I say I will never wear my hair that way (for various reasons). He says he likes that hairstyle. I say "this bar is full of girls with that hairstyle. date them if you want that." A few mins later he repeats that he likes that hairstyle. I say "one reason I broke up w/ my last bf was, he said things like you're saying right now." and then he apologized. And yet, didn't seem offended. So strange...
Hi! I'm an ENFP. :-)