Please diagnose them with a mental disorder/inexorable enneagram sin for me so we can know how exactly they're contaminated. Thanks!
Please diagnose them with a mental disorder/inexorable enneagram sin for me so we can know how exactly they're contaminated. Thanks!
What kind of specific behavioral examples would you classify as "treating life like a game"?
People who can't talk face to face or be genuine with the people they control. For those who the world is just a playground to do shit in. Trump is a good example I think.
Maybe Psycopathy is a disorder that is best at gaming the world?
Treating life as a game can be good or bad.
Consider the happy-go-lucky guy who isn't fazed by setbacks or difficulties.
Then consider the people who treat life as a game that doesn't have consequences for them in particular.
Trump is insulated from the consequences of his actions by his inherited money and by his supporters, who are just as amoral as he is.
I don’t understand this because some people take their gaming lives more seriously than their real lives.
What is the issue here?
Too playful and non-serious? Or too strategic? Too controlling? Too detached? What aspect of gaming are we talking about here? Some of these contradict each other.
I was thinking too strategic, like people who are really competitive and think of everything in terms of objectives and whether they win or lose everything and can't be authentic to the point that it's semi-ironically autistic because they have no relationships, no creativity, and are complete losers because life doesn't really work like that and that's more of death and murder. But there are really a billion kinds of games and some of them represent pretty good worldviews.
Obligatory picture of Wittgenstein in honor of all the different types of games:
Soulless and E3?
"Successful."
My SEE friend from hs treated life as some sort of game.. But I don't think she had a disorder, she was just immature (and Se with Ti PoLR on the other hand). her etype, mb 7w8.
Napoleon is the representative of SEE in socionics.
Typically Se types are competitive.
Zhukov was a general from the WWII and is used to represent SLE. The autistic and have no relations seem kinda Fi PoLR (SLE).
Last edited by Hope; 10-22-2018 at 03:34 PM.
^Pretty much this.
Also...
Most games involve strategy, and I think that a goal-oriented lifestyle requires strategy to execute effectively. Survival itself is a goal that requires strategy in a world where resources aren't freely given. Therefore, I could argue that a life that comes with no such demands must consist of exceptional luxuries and privileges.
I would say that the gaming elements of "detachment" and "control" are more debatable as it concerns their place in the real world. Too much of either and I wouldn't reach any objectives or accomplish any goals.
One of the downsides to excessive strategy is that you get tunnel vision and fail to see people and things around you. Hard to make any vulnerable, lasting connections this way. Hard to enjoy life for what it is this way.
People under extreme circumstances don't always have much of an option.
Anyway, nice Wittgenstein reference, @coeruleum.
Oh you're absolutely right. There's too many of those people IRL. I run into like, eight of them on average every day. Like can you imagine that? Them and their stupid "goals" and "achievements" Pffft. They definitely need to be diagnosed with a mental disorder because screw psychology. The DSM V should totally add that to Cluster B, along with Antisocial Personality Disorder, Narcissistic Personality Disorder, Borderline Personality Disorder, they should add a new category: Extreme Competitiveness Disorder. It's inconceivable to even think that a person of that type values personal achievements and milestones, that they actually love what they do and like to challenge themselves. They're all psychopaths. Even though they're married and have kids, we KNOW those relationships are completely fake. Like seriously, Steve Jobs? Total loser. Bill Gates? Yeah, that guy sucks. Elon Musk? I'm sure his species reproduces asexually. I mean, you've hit the ball on this one. More people should come to you for advice. I *sincerely* mean it.
you know how they say ''don't make anything too real''? Seems that it lubes things up in a good way more often than not. also helps with perceiving scarcity in a more ''accurate'' way.
I'd say the real problem is competiton for competition's sake.
Yes, that's what I was getting at. Like people who play a bunch of RPGs like World of Warcraft all the time. People just want to feel in control by pressing a bunch of buttons, but it makes them a dweeb. A lot of people seem to treat life like that but they don't have any actual good goals like making computers or going to Mars either. They're just like "yes, my boss gave me a raise from scrubbing the toilets with a toothbrush to licking boots in the lounge! And I only had to murder 4 of 5 of my boss's exes with a machete and sell my soul to a minor imp to do it! I'm the big boy now!"