How you perceive the world

[Raver]

The purpose of this thread is for everyone to get an understanding of other types and how they look at everyday life. I'll start with how I look at things and I'd like for you guys to post how you look at the world as well.

I feel like I live in my head at times as there are always concepts and ideas that I learned in the past being attached to everything going on around me. It could be a couple in the street, a homeless person, basically literally anything. Those concepts and ideas help me make sense of the world. I guess you could say that's on overdrive. Most of the ideas are mostly applied to people as a result of my . The way I see it everyone's behavior is not a coincidence and is a direct result of their experiences and their psychological makeup given to them by sheer chance. I never stop learning and continuously add new knowledge from positive and negative experiences. I'm told that I don't pay much attention to my surroundings by dominants, but I do it in a very conceptual sense of how things are as opposed to how they actually are.

[Gilly]

See my signature

[Raver]

Predictable Ashton, posting obscene pictures in a deliberate attempt to kill a thread....

[Galen]

I already made a post about it, but I may as well say it again.

When I'm not actively processing information, like staring off into space, my eyes will automatically orient themselves so that the raw information they're receiving in their field of vision, when taken as a whole, is the most 'pleasing.' What counts as pleasing seems to be determined by the combination of colors and shapes that my eyes are picking up. I'm not so much focusing on objects individually as I am just taking in everything at once.

I guess that's not so much how I perceive "the world" as much as how I perceive everything.

[Raver]

Predictable Ashton, posting obscene pictures in a deliberate attempt to kill a thread....

Why are you discriminating against my perception of the world?

Haha, you're either telling the truth or very cunning.

[MysticSonic]

Answering the question "how I perceive the world is tricky," given how general it is, however I have a natural tendency to withdraw into myself and reflect over whatever is going on around me or what I have recently learnt. People will often note how I seem to go into staring fits, causing them to frequently ask what I'm looking at. The truth is that I am not looking at anything, but rather have gone into thought and have merely lost focus on what is going on around me. This is not always my mode of operations, however, as I can often go into a very externally aware mode of perception, where I take upon the demands that are brought upon myself. This is not an active mode I take, however, and is most often merely how I operate when I am in an obviously task oriented situation, such as work. I normally perceive matters through what I am thinking about, and often have a lens of perception that is ultimately tied to whatever subject matter seems to be of most interest to me at the time, whether it be an idea I recently learnt, or how people seem to be behaving and how it is effecting me, all ultimately depending on the environment I'm in at the time. I suppose ultimately my mode of perception is not ubiquitous in nature, but rather very variable depending on what is around me. It is rather my attitude and general sentiments that tend to be much more stable and universal.

[Galen]

Answering the question "how I perceive the world is tricky," given how general it is, however I have a natural tendency to withdraw into myself and reflect over whatever is going on around me or what I have recently learnt. People will often note how I seem to go into staring fits, causing them to frequently ask what I'm looking at. The truth is that I am not looking at anything, but rather have gone into thought and have merely lost focus on what is going on around me. This is not always my mode of operations, however, as I can often go into a very externally aware mode of perception, where I take upon the demands that are brought upon myself. This is not an active mode I take, however, and is most often merely how I operate when I am in an obviously task oriented situation, such as work. I normally perceive matters through what I am thinking about, and often have a lens of perception that is ultimately tied to whatever subject matter seems to be of most interest to me at the time, whether it be an idea I recently learnt, or how people seem to be behaving and how it is effecting me, all ultimately depending on the environment I'm in at the time. I suppose ultimately my mode of perception is not ubiquitous in nature, but rather very variable depending on what is around me. It is rather my attitude and general sentiments that tend to be much more stable and universal.

Sounds pretty Ti to me.

I also have those bouts of staring fits, but they're based within myself as opposed to being directly pertinent to the world around me. Like when I'm struck with some unique emotion, I tend to completely stop and sink into that feeling, perhaps looking to understand it further so I can understand the external situation that triggered it. I think I can break myself out of those moments, but lots of times I don't even want to because that feeling will be the highest priority.

[DirectorAbbie]

How I perceive the world? I have nothing to compare it to. The world is pretty much what it looks like. It's mostly nouns.

[Galen]

How I perceive the world? I have nothing to compare it to. The world is pretty much what it looks like. It's mostly nouns.

You'll have to answer to Buckminster Fuller.

I live on Earth at present, and I don't know what I am. I know that I am not a category. I am not a thing — a noun. I seem to be a verb, an evolutionary process — an integral function of the universe.

God, to me, it seems is a verb, not a noun, proper or improper.

[DirectorAbbie]

You'll have to answer to Buckminster Fuller.

A verb? No, not a verb. That's stupid.

[Galen]

You'll have to answer to Buckminster Fuller.

A verb? No, not a verb. That's stupid.

[woofwoofl]

How I perceive the world? I have nothing to compare it to. The world is pretty much what it looks like. It's mostly nouns.

I tried posting something, but you summed up a large amount of my worldview a lot more concisely than I would have

I'm a bit further than that - if I detect a concept, I'll try as best as possible to demystify it and bolt it down to the strictly physical; I can't seem to go in the other direction quite as well though. I also wonder how much "strictly physical" is outside the range of my perceptions, I figure there's a lot, and I want to find it...

I also think the world will go into the future in a set manner, whatever that might precisely be, for as long as sentient beings don't willfully and awarely act upon it...

[DirectorAbbie]

A verb? No, not a verb. That's stupid.

A noun is a person, place or thing, right? A verb is an action. I am a person, not an action. A person is not an action. A spinning wheel is not a vegetable and I am not a verb.

[April]

This is a very broad question, so do you have anything more specific you want to know? I'll just throw out some immediate things that come to mind.

I feel like a sponge in a sense that I'm constantly gathering information and filtering it through principles or truths that I've constructed over the years, mostly through inductive reasoning. I'm sort of vigilant against accepting data without finding a proper place for it first. When I say "data," I mean all kinds--like scientific facts, people's internal makeup, cultural values, cause and effect relationships, etc. These analyses lead to frequent reevaluations of the aforementioned principles when faced with conflicting pieces of information or values. Sometimes, it's impossible to categorize though, and that can be annoying. *nerd alert* For example, I recently watched an episode of Star Trek TNG when Picard had the opportunity to kill all the Borg, but he decided it was unethical. I wrestled with this a lot, and ultimately decided that I didn't think it was ethical or unethical to do so. Fuck. I like knowing the answers.

[FDG]

Eh, that's quite hard to answer. Might have something to do with my extreme extroversion. I don't feel like there is much of a filter between me and the outside world. When I'm really busy, I perceive the flow of events as a sequence of tasks; when I'm trying to concentrate very hard, I try to perceive the causal core of what goes around me, although it's generally quite a hard task.

[silke]

A noun is a person, place or thing, right? A verb is an action. I am a person, not an action. A person is not an action. A spinning wheel is not a vegetable and I am not a verb.

you're always in motion though, always actively shifting from one state of being to another, which is what verbs represent, thus you're a noun and a verb at the same time

[DirectorAbbie]

A noun is a person, place or thing, right? A verb is an action. I am a person, not an action. A person is not an action. A spinning wheel is not a vegetable and I am not a verb.

you're always in motion though, always actively shifting from one state of being to another, which is what verbs represent, thus you're a noun and a verb at the same time

No, I'm a noun who verbs.
Also, I'm not necessarily always in motion. I may roll around when I sleep, but I can stand still with a blank mind for ten minutes or so. I did it a few times last week.

[RoadPaveMent]

How I perceive the world? I have nothing to compare it to.

I'd need a specific situation to answer this.

[force my hand]

I agree that's a broad question. Is there any particular essence you're targeting?

My perception of the world is that it is material, natural, emergent, economic, awesome, indifferent, uncertain, evolving, scary, fun, mutable, and very, very big.

[Crispy]

I perceive it as is, just like everybody else.

[Cat King Cole]

Scientific. Reality is real. A rock is a rock. It's an objective feature of space. You can touch it or shoot complex (like a bullet) or simple projectiles at it (like an electron), and it can't be proven to not exist as an objective part of the universe.

Anything that can't be sensed can be reasoned about. Ghosts don't exist, for instance. They're just artefacts of our erstwhile natures, evolutionary relics in our cognition that alert us to dangerous areas or see faces or forms in the darkness. (Though I guess this is like saying hudurr, subjective mistakes are still mistaken interpretations of objective things like a lack of light or a psychogenic visual disturbances.)

One thing where I see people getting tripped up is confusing the subjectivity of the brain's language for the objectivity of subject-independent reality.

[MisterNi]

Yup, I agree with Crispy. I perceive the world as how it is. In some cases, I perceive the world as how it should be or how it could be and either try to take steps to enact change or say, "sucks it's that way" and move on.

[Raver]

I agree that's a broad question. Is there any particular essence you're targeting?

What I'm looking for in this thread is people stating how their socionics type influences how they perceive the world. For instance, of course there are general mundane things that everyone sees similar. However, I'm talking about how your type would influence you in making sense of the world.

[aestrivex]

Haha, you're either telling the truth or very cunning.

You have no right to doubt my sincerity.

he has every right to doubt your sincerity, and every right to judge you based on your answer to the question.

[Galen]

A noun is a person, place or thing, right? A verb is an action. I am a person, not an action. A person is not an action. A spinning wheel is not a vegetable and I am not a verb.

You are astonishingly literal-minded.

[Creepy-]

The concept that a human perceives the world as it is is laughable.

[Raver]

The concept that a human perceives the world as it is is laughable.

I agree, that was the main idea of my perception thread in anything goes.

[717495]

You have no right to doubt my sincerity.

he has every right to doubt your sincerity, and every right to judge you based on your answer to the question.

wtf

[Cat King Cole]

Disagree. Raw sensation is perception of the world as it is. The more forms of raw sensation (including incorporating machine measurements) employed, the closer we get to having a complete picture of reality. I suppose this is just a quibble over what "the world as it is" means, though.

The interpretations we make are where we become abstracted from objective reality. That said, it's a useless and trivial technicality (IMO, Ni PoLR speaking) to say that we're not perceiving reality as it is.

The only difference between visual garble and comprehensible vision is that the latter incorporates drawing boundaries between objects and assigning known categories to them (like "chair", "body", "face").

[Creepy-male]

My Cynical View of the World
Fuck the world before it fucks you

The world is a giant shit sandwich and everyone has to take a bite, you have two options to make it more survivable....

get a lot of bread or convince someone else to take your share

My Idealistic View of the World

Happiness isn't conserved but created-- growth, evolution, awaking, and development is possible at no cost other than time

see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_law

[Morcheeba]

The world looks so much better through the eyes of LSD, hop on the crazy train and see things for what they really are. The salt flats of Utah helps a little I guess, the tastiest salt ever!!!

[rat1]

I look at it as a bunch of disingenuous people out to gain petty advantages of all varieties, and their personalities are mostly shaped by that.

A noun is a person, place or thing, right? A verb is an action. I am a person, not an action. A person is not an action.

relativity fail, you're defined by your actions

A spinning wheel is not a vegetable and I am not a verb.

spinning wheel... vegetable...

[DirectorAbbie]

relativity fail, you're defined by your actions

I act like a person.

Crazy IEI...

[somavision]

Answering the question "how I perceive the world is tricky," given how general it is, however I have a natural tendency to withdraw into myself and reflect over whatever is going on around me or what I have recently learnt. People will often note how I seem to go into staring fits, causing them to frequently ask what I'm looking at. The truth is that I am not looking at anything, but rather have gone into thought and have merely lost focus on what is going on around me. This is not always my mode of operations, however, as I can often go into a very externally aware mode of perception, where I take upon the demands that are brought upon myself. This is not an active mode I take, however, and is most often merely how I operate when I am in an obviously task oriented situation, such as work. I normally perceive matters through what I am thinking about, and often have a lens of perception that is ultimately tied to whatever subject matter seems to be of most interest to me at the time, whether it be an idea I recently learnt, or how people seem to be behaving and how it is effecting me, all ultimately depending on the environment I'm in at the time. I suppose ultimately my mode of perception is not ubiquitous in nature, but rather very variable depending on what is around me. It is rather my attitude and general sentiments that tend to be much more stable and universal.

Sounds pretty Ti to me.

I also have those bouts of staring fits, but they're based within myself as opposed to being directly pertinent to the world around me. Like when I'm struck with some unique emotion, I tend to completely stop and sink into that feeling, perhaps looking to understand it further so I can understand the external situation that triggered it. I think I can break myself out of those moments, but lots of times I don't even want to because that feeling will be the highest priority.

The bolded part actually reminds me of attentional spotlight theory, and is perhaps fairly universal. However I admit that I may well be missing something in style, focus or tone.

[kopyk]

I look at it as a bunch of disingenuous people out to gain petty advantages of all varieties, and their personalities are mostly shaped by that.

Agreed.

The world is a mostly boring, increasingly predictable place where the stimulating things require too much effort for me to bother with them. So I just gather insights. Maybe I got some intestinal parasite sucking away all my energy. Who knows. Man is the measure of all things. Non of my experiences can be dissociated from me, thus I am the measure of all things.

[suedehead]

I perceive the world as a seemingly endless, fluid sequence of events - both implicit and explicit. Each individual movement or element within an environment just sort of 'flows'...

[Kim]

The world is a mostly boring, increasingly predictable place where the stimulating things require too much effort for me to bother with them. .

That might be your part of the world. Take a trip, Ath. Seriously.