Hello there

[nigh]

Been lurking around socionics and convinced that I'm ESI and possibly with Se subtype. So far. In Myers-Briggs I'm ISFP but its description seems a bit too... artsy and flighty? I don't know. Technically artsy is right though. But who isn't?

Please excuse if my english sounds clumsy. Not my native tongue. Glad to join anyway. Now I'm having a headache about whether I should have an avatar or not. Oh those little things...

[Wallon]

Been lurking around socionics and convinced that I'm ESI and possibly with Se subtype. So far. In Myers-Briggs I'm ISFP but its description seems a bit too... artsy and flighty? I don't know. Technically artsy is right though. But who isn't?

Please excuse if my english sounds clumsy. Not my native tongue. Glad to join anyway. Now I'm having a headache about whether I should have an avatar or not. Oh those little things...

You'll need this.
http://www.wikisocion.org/en/index.php?title=J/P_switch

[nigh]

You'll need this.
http://www.wikisocion.org/en/index.php?title=J/P_switch

Well, actually I know the J/P switch issues. I'm only convinced about my type solely based on the functions. So while these two systems call it by different shorthand, what I identify myself with is just Fi/Se. I am quite sure that I cannot be ISFJ in MBTI or ISFp in Socionics, which is Si/Fe. I don't identify with those functions. Although Socionics and MBTI seem to interpret some of them(functions, especially Si and Se) from very different PoV, still doesn't change how I relate myself to them, if it makes any sense.

Anyhow, thank you. :-)

[Wallon]

Well, actually I know the J/P switch issues. I'm only convinced about my type solely based on the functions. So while these two systems call it by different shorthand, what I identify myself with is just Fi/Se. I am quite sure that I cannot be ISFJ in MBTI or ISFp in Socionics, which is Si/Fe. I don't identify with those functions. Although Socionics and MBTI seem to interpret some of them(functions, especially Si and Se) from very different PoV, still doesn't change how I relate myself to them, if it makes any sense.

Anyhow, thank you. :-)

This is a useful tool for understanding socionics:
http://zhilkin.com/socio/en/
It can also help you figure out your type, in case you're not sure, but you don't seem to be.

[nigh]

This is a useful tool for understanding socionics:
http://zhilkin.com/socio/en/
It can also help you figure out your type, in case you're not sure, but you don't seem to be.

This is excellent! Like it, bookmarked it. Thanks.

[Wallon]

This is excellent! Like it, bookmarked it. Thanks.

You're welcome.

[MisterNi]

Welcome nigh. Lately the ESI have all but disappeared due to forum inactivity. Well, enjoy your stay and learn something new.

[nigh]

Hi @MisterNi Thanks for the welcome. Been learning new things every time I come here. Hope it'd become more active again some day.

[MisterNi]

Hi @MisterNi Thanks for the welcome. Been learning new things every time I come here. Hope it'd become more active again some day.

[KMV78009]

I am new here but have been studying socionics for a very long time...I may be an ILE or LII, or possibly some other type. Hopefully I'll find out soon. In my childhood I had the distinct feeling that i was differently from most other people and was bullied often. However, my social awkwardness has actually given me the inspiration to find my interests and pursue them. I hope to contribute sometime soon to the forums, but also pretty busy right now.

[nigh]

Just to add - I said I might be Se subtype in the original post but now I don't think so. I'm convinced I'm closer to Fi. Which saddens me cos I kinda believe Se subtype would probably get more important things done than Fi subtype. I could really use some more extroversion of seeing and doing things. Or is this just my dual-seeking? :\

[MisterNi]

Just to add - I said I might be Se subtype in the original post but now I don't think so. I'm convinced I'm closer to Fi. Which saddens me cos I kinda believe Se subtype would probably get more important things done than Fi subtype. I could really use some more extroversion of seeing and doing things. Or is this just my dual-seeking? :\

You're an subtype. An Fi subtype wouldn't think that much like a.

[nigh]

You're an subtype. An Fi subtype wouldn't think that much like a.

Like a...?

Although I'm not absolutely sure of my subtypes, just because one envies extroverts doesn't make the person more extroverted, I think. Even in subtypes. I certainly hope you're right, but... I'm pretty sure all (real) Fi types would envy people who get more things done then them, just like anybody else.
Well I don't know. Does Se types actually get more things done than Fi types? Or can it be the opposite? Maybe I'll start a thread about this.

[MisterNi]

Like a...?

Yes, that's correct.

Although I'm not absolutely sure of my subtypes, just because one envies extroverts doesn't make the person more extroverted, I think. Even in subtypes. I certainly hope you're right, but... I'm pretty sure all (real) Fi types would envy people who get more things done then them, just like anybody else.
Well I don't know. Does Se types actually get more things done than Fi types? Or can it be the opposite? Maybe I'll start a thread about this.

Have you read the subtype descriptions on the Wikisocion? But yes, Se subtypes would be more energetic and willing to expend energy on accomplishing goals. Fi subtypes are more..."froo froo" and stereotypically prissy girls and act like a "princess" (From my perspective).

[Narc]

Hey dool.

[nigh]

I say English isn't my native tongue, you guys say things like froo froo and dool and make me google them.... huh? lol And now I'm contemplating on whether or not I'm froo froo enough to be an Fi subtype.

... though sometimes he lacks in attention and perseverance to complete his assignments.

Well yeah that makes it still possible that I'm an Se subtype. Would that be uncontradictory to the H type on DCNH subtype theory? And I just bumped into something called dual-type theory, I'm very curious about it but there seems to be no easy description on that one.

[MisterNi]

I say English isn't my native tongue, you guys say things like froo froo and dool and make me google them.... huh? lol And now I'm contemplating on whether or not I'm froo froo enough to be an Fi subtype.



Well yeah that makes it still possible that I'm an Se subtype. Would that be uncontradictory to the H type on DCNH subtype theory? And I just bumped into something called dual-type theory, I'm very curious about it but there seems to be no easy description on that one.

You're an subtype. An subtype wouldn't have even considered subtypes after everything you've been through.

[Absurd]

You're an subtype. An subtype wouldn't have even considered subtypes after everything you've been through.

Yeah, the difference lies in Se subtype knowing they're Se subtype and Fi subtype knowing they're Fi subtype. Socionics is easy when done with MisterNi.

[Absurd]

You deleted another post coming my way, Mister. Must hurt being on the cutting edge.

[nigh]

Haha

You're an subtype. An subtype wouldn't have even considered subtypes after everything you've been through.

Huh? What have I been through? Fi subtypes are less curious about their type? Please elaborate

[MisterNi]

Having to endure the humiliation that is the English language, of course.

[nigh]

Having to endure the humiliation that is the English language, of course.

Fail.

[MisterNi]

[nigh]

[nigh]

Okay, now I see that I really am Se subtype. And I resent the title "traditionalist", which is completely misleading.

[Absurd]

Just stick to Se-ESI. Ne creative doesn't go well with Ne polr.

[nigh]

Just stick to Se-ESI. Ne creative doesn't go well with Ne polr.

Of course it doesn't.

[Absurd]

Okay.