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    Default Darth Vader; Al Bundy

    Type them. (Note, the title does not imply I think they are the same type)
    Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
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    why are you grouping them together?

    al is some IST thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tuturututu View Post
    Al Bundy is an ESTj, I think.
    al istp, peg -- ENTp.


    lol.
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    He's too negative to be an istp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuturututu View Post
    He's too negative to be an istp.
    EJ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by implied View Post
    EJ?
    ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuturututu View Post
    ??

    i'm asking how al is possibly an EJ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by implied View Post
    why are you grouping them together?

    al is some IST thing.
    I was going to make a thread about Vader, then married w children came on TV. That's all.
    Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
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    Darth Vader is clearly an ENTp logical subtype with a non-fulfilled hidden agenda
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    Darth Vader is still alive

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1981slater View Post
    Darth Vader is clearly an ENTp logical subtype with a non-fulfilled hidden agenda
    So wrong.

    The combination of Anakin-Vader is probably Gamma SF.

    For one, Lucas, an Alpha, is using Anakin to dislpay what he sees as most flawed in human nature: selfish motives and unbridled passion for another human (Fi+Se) coming before more typical Apollonian abstract responsibilities to humanity (Ti+Ne). Anakin is clearly Se valuing and ethical, if you ask me. He is most driven by protecting Obi Wan and Padme, and wants badly to occupy a position of infuelce in the Jedi Counsel, as well as be respected by his elders as their equal in skill, despite the conventional mandates of age and experience. To me, all of this reeks of valued Se and Fi, and perhaps devalued Ti (although his anti-tradition stance could be seen as Beta-esque)

    If not SEE or ESI, I would say EIE is the next best choice (especially given that his greatest vice is passion).
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    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
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    Well, Gilly, the toughest guys end up being soft people, like Darth Vader. This is related to hidden agenda. Anyway, I always say that we shouldn't care too much about the type of fictional characters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1981slater View Post
    Well, Gilly, the toughest guys end up being soft people, like Darth Vader. This is related to hidden agenda.
    Are you joking?
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Are you joking?
    No, man. I've known some ExTps who pretend to be very aggressive to hide they are shy. No shit
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    I say whatever Labcoat says.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1981slater View Post
    No, man. I've known some ExTps who pretend to be very aggressive to hide they are shy. No shit
    Yeah, me too, but using that as your premise to assume that Darth Vader is ILE is pretty facile.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Yeah, me too, but using that as your premise to assume that Darth Vader is ILE is pretty facile.
    okeeeey. Do you remember the african-american guy in that movie with Richard Gere? he was tough!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1981slater View Post
    okeeeey. Do you remember the african-american guy in that movie with Richard Gere? he was tough!


    Quote Originally Posted by ifmd95 View Post
    what do you type the Emperor as? Vader seems receptive to the Emperor's Ni vision of things to come.
    He is typical example of an Alpha's (ie Lucas') vision of materialistic, power-centric evil. Either LIE or EIE works fine IMO.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
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    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
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    Under cerulean skies...

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    lemme guess, you were watching a "Married with Children" vs. "Star Wars" marathon?
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    Didn't Al Bundy used to sometimes say "First I want you to know that I hate you all." before making a speech? That's the funniest thing I've ever heard anyone say. I wish I could preclude everything I say with that.

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    Originally Posted by tuturututu
    Al Bundy is an ESTj, I think.
    He's ESTp.

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    Darth V = ESTp

    Loyal to his master with a desire to destroy his enemies. He is facinated with the force which is clearly seeking.

    Under stress the INFp within him appears i.e. when he tells Luc he is his father.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Analyst Trevor View Post
    He's ESTp.
    I couldn't type him myself, but I was considering IxTx.

    What do you think about Kelly Bundy and Steve D'arcy? I have them at ESFp and ENTj, respectively.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeSeeCold
    What do you think about Kelly Bundy and Steve D'arcy? I have them at ESFp and ENTj, respectively.
    I don't have any opinion.

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    Al Bundy, ESTj.

    Sorry trevor, I seem to agree with tuturrutuu and not with you. :d

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    Al Bundy, ESTj.

    Sorry trevor, I seem to agree with tuturrutuu and not with you. :d


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    not that Divided.

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