Would LSE and SLI chase loved one if something goes wrong?? or do they only sigh and put it away and live on in spite of hurt hearts?
Would ESTj or ISTp chase a loved one if something goes wrong?
Would LSE and SLI chase loved one if something goes wrong?? or do they only sigh and put it away and live on in spite of hurt hearts?
I think there's a story behind this question.Originally Posted by SenoritaC
ISTp
SLI
Enneagram 5 with a side of wings.
Once it's over, it's over, I only ever "get back" if we somehow stay friends and i'm snared into sex, but if it's not going to work it won't, didn't work the first time and I haven't found it work the second time. I've never chased after a girl when it's over, regardless of the situation.
Actually, i'd rather leave it as not working than going back to it, it's better to remember the good memories rather than fucking them over too.
I believe myself to be ISTp.
Possibly. I remember when I was 17 I dated a girl and she finished with her partner and started dating me, he was forever chasing after her. I remember thinking that won't ever be me.
Most relationships i've had have reached a stage where we go on to do different things, indeed, I remember one where I was never quite sure of her being sexually attractive, but she was good at listening to my feelings and I talked about a lot of stuff which was new to me to do. She wanted me to settle down but I was never quite ready to do the "moving in for ever after" at that stage. Anyway various other things including this like changes of jobs, and me moving back to a healthier lifestyle - we would go out often, smoke a lot - i'd moved away from exercise and stuff for a while, had plenty of money and enjoyed going out drinking and eating and stuff, anyway as my interests changed and I would try to get her involved in hillwalking and stuff, she wasn't really interested. Suffice to say that it sort of ended, but I still think about her fondly and think perhaps I should have made the commitment to settle down, but I wasn't quite ready.
In the chasing after - it's my humble experience that when it comes down to it, it's often the woman who decides if she is dating or not. I think that guys find it harder to get over. Women just seem - to me - to move on easier. I dunno, they get a new hairdo and then it's like new them, where as the guy is still getting his short back and sides, lol. Interestingly perhaps, I remember going to McDonalds not so long ago, I popped in at lunchtime, and it was full of guy with their kids - sort of like guys who looked a bit old and tired. It occured to me that they were seperated, they see the kids at the weekend, and the woman has the weekend to themselves, to go out socialising, meeting new people etc, and in this country the woman gets all the additional government benefits in this situation, plus often child support from the guy. So it's sort of related in a way, anyway, that is that for observations here and there, i'm sure it works both ways.... but ... I could go on, I could be wrong, but it is just my humble observations from the part of the globe where I live.
Interestingly, considered this for a while, but it wasn't quite right, it was sort of like an "ESTj gone wrong" in some ways - which is probably to do with the temperament. My ESTj boss typed me ISTp incidentally, and at later date when interacting with other ISTp's the indentity relation struck me more than what it did with mirrors.
Oh, i'm sure of my type, and I VI myself as ISTp, I suppose I was just a little curious what you would come up with, sorry if needed.
Yes.
Yeah - I think chasing after someone happens when one partner breaks off the relationship, but the other partner still feels attachment for them. The one who broke things off probably ended the relationship mentally some time before and had already processed everything emotionally. Makes it really easy to move on.
And I've known SLIs to do that. My ex still hadn't gotten over whatever girl he'd dated two years previously who broke up with him. He still kept pictures of her around. Not on the mantlepiece or anything, but in places where he'd see them quite often. I have photos that have my ex boyfriends in them, but they're in shoeboxes in the attic marked "College." Not pasted to everyday objects.
IEE
Well, there was one girl who ended it with me first, thinking of it some more for now - like you say, she was more mentally prepared for it.Yeah - I think chasing after someone happens when one partner breaks off the relationship, but the other partner still feels attachment for them. The one who broke things off probably ended the relationship mentally some time before and had already processed everything emotionally. Makes it really easy to move on.
And I've known SLIs to do that. My ex still hadn't gotten over whatever girl he'd dated two years previously who broke up with him. He still kept pictures of her around. Not on the mantlepiece or anything, but in places where he'd see them quite often. I have photos that have my ex boyfriends in them, but they're in shoeboxes in the attic marked "College." Not pasted to everyday objects.
In a way I was glad as it wasn't working out, but I wasn't ready for the switch off yet, so it took me longer to get over, but I just kept busy with extra work and stuff, and kept my "pain" to myself, lol.
I remember a photo on the wall of us which even although i'd re-arranged the apartment, I still left it up there for some time, then decided to take it down, but took the picture down but left the frame up for some reason, dunno, was just used to something being there.
Anyway, relationships are funny things... seems we're all interested in socionics, but maybe it's better to stay single, ha, not that i'll ever understand them. (talking on thread over for now, lol).
Well, I think you are good at explaining things!You're a better explainer then I am...that is due to my; can you explain to people how to VI based on the method I showed you? I guess what I am trying to ask is if you can word it better for me?
I will try, but it won't be today, maybe i'll try it then run it past you first, but i'd expect resistance from certain quarters, but as always, some people learn anyway, which is good.
Edit: Maritsa33, i'm going to forward you something, not the above but on the subject of VI, ... see if you have opinion on it.
I'm glad you feel that way, because I completely disagree.
Enneagram: 9w1 6w5 2w3 so/sx
from my expierence when these types (especially LSE) are in love they won't ever stop chasing.
What? i dont ever remember being asked to publically post my pics! Stop making things up!!!
I dont trust you because I dont relate to SEE at all. And I relate completely to IEE.
The one thought I had as to why I VI'd SEE potentially in those pics, is because I put on an Se mood for that event.
Anyway, not to derail this thread further. Carry on with the original topic please--I am very interested in hearing the responses too.
Enneagram: 9w1 6w5 2w3 so/sx
I bet there is!
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
IMO, it depends on what went wrong, why it went wrong, how much they love, and who else is involved. If the chasee doesn't hate being chased, and only the chaser and chasee are involved, I would assume the chase would continue despite "hurt hearts."
It's really, really hard for me to move on after I develop feelings for someone but I never chase anyone.
girl. . .you know. . .
I am having SUCH a hard time moving on. Trying not to chase. . .
Enneagram: 9w1 6w5 2w3 so/sx
No, he is withdrawing. I need to respect that. I've been a bit intrusive lately.
Enneagram: 9w1 6w5 2w3 so/sx
This question/statement is absurd for a number of reasons.
IEE-Ne
Arctures, HIGH 5, buddy!! Lol
Enneagram: 9w1 6w5 2w3 so/sx
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...a-romance.html
Generally speaking, I try to not have relationships that don't benefit me; relationships that that are detracting from me overall and don't show any sign of getting better I try to avoid (Pragma)
If eros gets deeply involved, it is harder to move on.
The thing is, I am very dependent on "" of someone else. If someone indicates to me that the relationship is over, I can't disbelieve that. I can not want it to be so, and not want it to end, and be emotionally and all other ways attached to them, but if they sincerely tell me, or at least indicate, that things are over, then it is.
I would much rather force someone into telling me how they feel about me, whatever it is, than not know how someone stands in regard to me. The less sure of how I feel, the less comfortable I feel about the whole situation.
With maturity and experience, I realize that it doesn't really matter what I feel anyway - it depends on what the other person feels - in terms of whether or not a relationship is there. (That's actually the case for most male female relationships . . .)
One of my main goals in a relationship is to have relational clarity. I will pursue someone until I know what it is. But once someone really demonstrates that they aren't into or committed to our relationship, I'll move on. It is not really comfortable or 'possible' for me to stay in a relationship where I'm the only person who cares. I will purge myself if necessary. What remains tends to be the eros, the passion, which honestly is strong and overpowering at times; it is rare for me to stop being attracted to someone (unless I see them as changing in a significant way). But the bottom line, for me, comes down to whether or not we are having a successful and substantial, realistic relationship. But I wasn't always that way; when I was young and more naive, and had less experience, it was more the sort of typical approach to relationships - thinking a lot about how I 'felt' about the person, if they were interesting to me, and then a bit of thought about how well we got along.
One more thing about running - I will chase someone if I think there has been misunderstanding, because making sure someone has correct information is 'important to me'. Yet, once everything is understood, if they feel a certain way about me, then I will act on what that is. But I will not chase someone who is not interested in me. I don't think it is healthy for people to pursue people who aren't interested in them.
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
Maritsa, do you VI as INFj?
Perhaps. How do you feel about chatting online?
I'm somewhat curious about your type, you could say.
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
why?
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
You taught someone in one day?
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
why dont you just make a thread about your proccess instead of draining yourself teaching everyone individually? wouldn't it be more 'practical' that way and beneficial to everyone?
<Crispy> what subt doesnt understand is that a healthy reaction to "FUCK YOU" is
You typed the others individually without a dual, I dont see why you cant just post up what you taught them to us. Copy/Paste New Thread. At least one of your dual is on here and will see the information to help with proccessing, not to mention the other 15 types who will be of service.
<Crispy> what subt doesnt understand is that a healthy reaction to "FUCK YOU" is
Maritsa's spreading her inaccurate techniques!
Enneagram: 9w1 6w5 2w3 so/sx
You checking me out?
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
I think she's demanding that a dual stand between her and ThePirate - a sensible request, as far as her own benefit goes, although:
- It's very hard - impractical even - to consistently keep a dual on hand.
- Wouldn't a dual have the same problems, having just as bad a relationship with the other people?
Alternatively, she may be calling for a dual to help her construct the thread in question; interacting about a topic is generally easier than placing all needed information in a structured form, especially, I suspect, for a Feeler.
LII-Ne
"Come to think of it, there are already a million monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet is NOTHING like Shakespeare!"
- Blair Houghton
Johari
BOOM HEAD SHOT
PS: if no one else does, I'll put this in the hall of fame later
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
I don't get it... :/BOOM HEAD SHOT
PS: if no one else does, I'll put this in the hall of fame later
uh, it's not really a joke, per se. So don't worry about it.
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
Ok, I want to know your VI results by Maritsa.
I have a strange feeling she's already undressing me with her eyes, you know?
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
Yeah, she sees your spine...
I don't either.
I actually consider myself reasonably good at gathering, organizing and presenting needed information in a both a readable and structured format.
Oh, to find you in dreams - mixing prior, analog, and never-beens... facts slip and turn and change with little lucidity. except the strong, permeating reality of emotion.
You know when people say shit like this, she doesn't understand that people don't take her seriously.
I would think that the banning thread is enough... give her some credit. I'm actually interested to what she says for Ryu.
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