Possible enneagram types of ISFjs and ESFps

[07490]

Hey, I have a couple of question about Gamma SF enneagram types. One is has anyone seen a ISFj being besides 1 or 6? Seond question is whether there is any enneagram 8 ESFp? I think I might have met one today.

[FDG]

Somehow, I think it´s possible for ISFjs to be 2, or 9 (I have met some ISFjs that clearly pertained to the positive outlook harmonic triad, but I have never been able to place them exactly in one of the two above types).

[07490]

Somehow, I think it´s possible for ISFjs to be 2, or 9 (I have met some ISFjs that clearly pertained to the positive outlook harmonic triad, but I have never been able to place them exactly in one of the two above types).

yes, two makes alot of sense, I should have put 1,2,6. 9 umm I would have to say alot of ISFj whose E-1 have a wing of 9 also.

[FDG]

yes, two makes alot of sense, I should have put 1,2,6. 9 umm I would have to say alot of ISFj whose E-1 have a wing of 9 also.

Yeah, right, some 1w9 with strong 9 wing can be confused for the latter type. As far as ESFp 8 goes, it´s possible in ESFp-Se (from my observations), not in ESFp-Fi

[Gilly]

Reasonably likely e-types:

ESI: 1, 6, 8
SEE: 2, 3, 6, 7, 8

[Ezra]

I'd say, basically, that ESI Ones and Sixes are common, but that you might find some Twos and Nines. All others are basically out of the question (I won't say impossible, but I would seriously question the typing).

As for SEEs, most will be Sevens, although - again - you might find some Threes, Sixes and Eights. The same goes for above with any other typings.

[FDG]

ESI:8

Nooo way.

[Gilly]

Nooo way.

You do know that ESIs have Se as a second function, right?

I don't think 8 is out of the question for ESI; not one of the most common types, but I'd bet that they exist.

As for ESIs being 2s, I think its less likely than their being 8s.

[07490]

Gilly have you met an ESI-8 before?

[strrrng]

Reasonably likely e-types:

ESI: 1, 6, 8
SEE: 2, 3, 6, 7, 8

I can see 8 as remotely plausible for ESI, but 2 seems wrong for SEE. If anything, an ESI would be more likely to be a 2.

[ArchonAlarion]

ISFj - 1, 6, 8
ESFp - 3, 7, 8

[strrrng]

SEEs can most definitely and commonly are 6s.

[Satan]

some 1s in ways can seem like 8s ..

ESI 8 .. hell .. ESI's ARE FUCKING PRUDES

[07490]

SEEs can most definitely and commonly are 6s.

Yes more than 7, SEE 7 just stands out more and more noticeable.

some 1s in ways can seem like 8s ..

Yes that too. I think 1 are more 8 like at times than Cp6 in a way.

[Gilly]

I find it odd that people think that ESIs, with Fe as their 7th/"ignoring" function, are more likely to be 2s than SEEs, who have Fe as their 8th/"demonstrative" function. Think about it: over-expressing emotions, insisting upon being treated with favor...SEE>ESI any day.

[strrrng]

I find it odd that people think that ESIs, with Fe as their 7th/"ignoring" function, are more likely to be 2s than SEEs, who have Fe as their 8th/"demonstrative" function. Think about it: over-expressing emotions, insisting upon being treated with favor...SEE>ESI any day.

Such trivial components don't determine e-type. Being "strong" in cultivating some emotional atmosphere ("Fe"), doesn't render someone with a 2 fixation.

[Gilly]

My point had nothing to do with cultivating an emotional atmosphere; I think it has more to do with over-expression of emotions that is clearly related, in some way, to Fe. Although yeah, now that I think about it, SEEs are more likely to be attentive to the atmosphere and the needs of others than ESIs, and, like 2s, they often do it as a kind of power play.

Whatever, it's not like I know any SEE 2s that I can think of right off the bat; I just think they are more likely, hypothetically speaking, than ESI 2s.

[Ezra]

Basically, it's trivial that Twos can be Gamma SFs. They basically can't be.

I don't think 8 is out of the question for ESI; not one of the most common types, but I'd bet that they exist.

I would love to find one.

Yes more than 7, SEE 7 just stands out more and more noticeable.

Why do you think SEE Sixes are more common than SEE Sevens?

[07490]

Why do you think SEE Sixes are more common than SEE Sevens?

I work in retail where I have to talk to people, threre is so much ESFp that I can right off tell that they are 6, or 7.

[Satan]

I work in retail where I have to talk to people, threre is so much ESFp that I can right off tell that they are 6, or 7.

so how many numbers you got so far?

[07490]

so how many numbers you got so far?

ME, SEE, My manager ESE

SEE customer:Hi, I would like an ID pictures
ME: ok, what size of the ID picture are you looking for?
SEE: I don't know, she opens her purse and show me one of a sample of her ID.
ME: Oh I'm sorry we dont make that size.
SEE: thinking... oh it doesn't matter any size. ummm maybe an 2x3.
Me: we dont have that size either. the only remotely size that is close to it is 1.5X1.5 inch.
SEE: ok whatever, I would take that.
Me: oh ok then. right before i was going to take her picture, I ask her... are you sure you want 1.5x1.5? becuase that is not the size of the picture you show me on your ID. I think you should definity check with them first and come back later.
SEE: thinking... using her (Ti) ok thats a Great Idea... yea
ME: ok then
SEE: she came back after 5 minutes with my ESE manager(I think they are off to something)
SEE: she attempts to pay for something, she sang a song while she is sliding her card to pay.
ME:I ask her, oh you sing?
SEE: yes I sing
ME: I sing too
ESE manager: are you single?(to the SEE)
SEE: Yes i am single
ME: oh really I am single too, so we have two things in common.
The ESE then becomes errratic, and saids OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! thats prefect, blah blah and blah acting like she is Dr. PHil of love or something. asking us to exchange numbers
ME: I have no idea what i say will lead to this
SEE: ok fine I will give you my number
ME: I was still in a state of shock
ESE was quick to take a paper and pen out and wrote down her number
SEE: then she left
ESE: Jason you are so SHY!
ME: what am I suspose to do, everything was so unexpected.