Spatial test and scores

[The Reality Denialist]

Here is a spatial to tease your brain
http://psychometrics.akresgr.org/spatialtest/

Your score was 14 (2 correct in section one, 4 correct in section two, 3 correct in section three, 5 correct in section four). Interpretations are below.

Score range	Interpretation
12-20	Normal
21+	Very good (top 15%)
25+	Very, very good (top 2%)

The last section was rather ambiguous so it was way easier. It saved my overall result. I didn't like it at all. BUT I'M NORMAL!!!!!

[Mega]

This is death

[The Exception]

That was torture. Probably the hardest online intelligence test I've taken. I barely managed to eke out a normal score.

Your score was 13 (3 correct in section one, 3 correct in section two, 2 correct in section three, 5 correct in section four). Interpretations are below.

Score range Interpretation
12-20 Normal
21+ Very good (top 15%)
25+ Very, very good (top 2%)

[ashlesha]

12

[Adam Strange]

29. I missed answering the last question by one second. The left-handed are good at spatial orientation. It is where our nonexistent language ability goes, and explains why I have 3D vision for real objects and also failed German repeatedly for seven years.

Adam's_spatial_orientation.jpg

[The Exception]

29. I missed answering the last question by one second. The left-handed are good at spatial orientation. It is where our nonexistent language ability goes, and explains why I have 3D vision for real objects and also failed German repeatedly for seven years.

Adam's_spatial_orientation.jpg

Well I'm left handed and I got less than half your score. Wanna explain that?

I also aced my German class.

[marooned]

i got 20. i could have done slightly better probably.

[Adam Strange]

Well I'm left handed and I got less than half your score. Wanna explain that?

I also aced my German class.

I was serious when I said that the brain circuits can either be used for language or for spacial ability. It is a complete trade.* You are probably not as left-handed as I am, and you therefore have good foreign language abilities. I don't. I can't even program, because programming is a language.

My own theory is that this accounts for the preference of humans to be right-handed. Humans all can speak a language. Animals happen to be evenly divided between left- and right-manipulator (paw, hoof, fin, etc.) preferences, and they don't speak, at least not as well as we do. That language ability we have took over brain space, and it had to come from somewhere, since the human brain, regardless of myths to the contrary, uses every bit of processing power it has without over heating. Brain material is metabolically very expensive, and the body doesn't build it just for the fun of it, to keep it alive and let it sit around unused.
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While I'm on the topic of brains, let me add that the brain is a seven-layer flexible circuit board with massively paralleled identical circuitry, about the size of a dinner napkin, folded up (yep, that's what the folds are) to fit into our skulls. Each layer represents a level of increasing sensory abstraction. For example, in the part of the board that is used for visual processing, the first layer processes edges, then the next layer integrates those edges into a square, the next layer integrates the square into a table, the next layer processes the table into an object in a room, the next layer turns the object in the room into your table in your house, the next turns your table into the work space or dining space for your evening's activities but it could be used for other things, and the seventh level abstracts it further into the philosophy of work or social events in one's life. Most animals do not have seven layer boards. I think dogs have five, dolphins six. I could be wrong about dolphins, but my point is that philosophy and spatial ability and Socionics cognitive functions have real assigned places in brain circuitry. The hard part is to map the circuits, but that is just a matter of time and money.

*The circuitry in the seven layers is all identical. That is, the same circuit stack that accepts visual input from the bottom up, can be re-purposed to drive muscles from the top down. Intention to go to the store, motivation to move across the room, decide to walk, select muscle groups, set up firing pattern to coordinate muscle contractions, output nerve impulses to muscle fibers. The brain areas are completely general and, initially, probably non-specific so they can be used for other things, but the brain is just about at the limit of our bodies to cool it, and so it can't make more circuit board without burning up. So, choose one: spatial ability or language, and let Darwin sort it out.

So far, he's been on the side of the language-processors and right-handers.

But, our Day Will Come!!! The Left Hand of Darkness will Rise Again! BWAHHH HAAH HAAAA HAAAAAAAAA

[The Exception]

I was serious when I said that the brain circuits can either be used for language or for spacial ability. It is a complete trade.* You are probably not as left-handed as I am, and you therefore have good foreign language abilities. I don't. I can't even program, because programming is a language.

My own theory is that this accounts for the preference of humans to be right-handed. Humans all can speak a language. Animals happen to be evenly divided between left- and right-manipulator (paw, hoof, fin, etc.) preferences, and they don't speak, at least not as well as we do. That language ability we have took over brain space, and it had to come from somewhere, since the human brain, regardless of myths to the contrary, uses every bit of processing power it has without over heating. Brain material is metabolically very expensive, and the body doesn't build it just for the fun of it, to keep it alive and let it sit around unused.
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While I'm on the topic of brains, let me add that the brain is a seven-layer flexible circuit board with massively paralleled identical circuitry, about the size of a dinner napkin, folded up (yep, that's what the folds are) to fit into our skulls. Each layer represents a level of increasing sensory abstraction. For example, in the part of the board that is used for visual processing, the first layer processes edges, then the next layer integrates those edges into a square, the next layer integrates the square into a table, the next layer processes the table into an object in a room, the next layer turns the object in the room into your table in your house, the next turns your table into the work space or dining space for your evening's activities but it could be used for other things, and the seventh level abstracts it further into the philosophy of work or social events in one's life. Most animals do not have seven layer boards. I think dogs have five, dolphins six. I could be wrong about dolphins, but my point is that philosophy and spatial ability and Socionics cognitive functions have real assigned places in brain circuitry. The hard part is to map the circuits, but that is just a matter of time and money.

*The circuitry in the seven layers is all identical. That is, the same circuit stack that accepts visual input from the bottom up, can be re-purposed to drive muscles from the top down. Intention to go to the store, motivation to move across the room, decide to walk, select muscle groups, set up firing pattern to coordinate muscle contractions, output nerve impulses to muscle fibers. The brain areas are completely general and, initially, probably non-specific so they can be used for other things, but the brain is just about at the limit of our bodies to cool it, and so it can't make more circuit board without burning up. So, choose one: spatial ability or language, and let Darwin sort it out.

Well I do believe some people are stronger at spatial things and others are stronger at language, I don't think it's quite so black/white and either-or. I know people who are quite strong in both and people who suck at both.

[Muddy]

16, meh

[The Reality Denialist]

I don't have 3D perception as in stereo-vision.
Here is a test to test your two eyed depth perception:
http://www.eyetricks.com/3dstereo1.htm
Can you see the hidden image? I can't.
My eye coordination is impaired from birth. I'm completely stereo blind. I'm rather proud of myself that I got normal score in spatial test. My handedness is bit mixed but I'm not ambidextrous.
My cognition scores highest on verbal reasoning (pretty exceptional but it was not that valued quality when I studied mathematics: perfectly explained solution but nothing concrete gave me sometimes 0 points). It is funny because I'm very scattered person who has very bad time at focusing details. I'm also pretty damn good at finding alternative routes/out of the litter box ways to solve problems but that is rather hard to grade. I struggled at foreign languages because:
1: Texts were utterly uninteresting
2: It was cool to compare grammar systems between languages but applying it wasn't very interesting.
3: Vocabulary.... who needs that

[The Exception]

I could see the image.

I expected to fail that spatial test miserably. I was relieved to find out I was normal. I felt I was random guessing for the majority of questions. For the section on slicing- the third section, I couldn't even understand the example let alone the section. So I completely random guessed it. My spatial reasoning isn't entirely bad though. On other spatial tests I've scored above average but that was mostly 2-D spatial ability not 3-D stuff.

My intelligence profile is something like this:
logical/mathematical > linguistic > spatial > people skills

[The Reality Denialist]

I was serious when I said that the brain circuits can either be used for language or for spacial ability. It is a complete trade.* You are probably not as left-handed as I am, and you therefore have good foreign language abilities. I don't. I can't even program, because programming is a language.

My own theory is that this accounts for the preference of humans to be right-handed. Humans all can speak a language. Animals happen to be evenly divided between left- and right-manipulator (paw, hoof, fin, etc.) preferences, and they don't speak, at least not as well as we do. That language ability we have took over brain space, and it had to come from somewhere, since the human brain, regardless of myths to the contrary, uses every bit of processing power it has without over heating. Brain material is metabolically very expensive, and the body doesn't build it just for the fun of it, to keep it alive and let it sit around unused.
.
While I'm on the topic of brains, let me add that the brain is a seven-layer flexible circuit board with massively paralleled identical circuitry, about the size of a dinner napkin, folded up (yep, that's what the folds are) to fit into our skulls. Each layer represents a level of increasing sensory abstraction. For example, in the part of the board that is used for visual processing, the first layer processes edges, then the next layer integrates those edges into a square, the next layer integrates the square into a table, the next layer processes the table into an object in a room, the next layer turns the object in the room into your table in your house, the next turns your table into the work space or dining space for your evening's activities but it could be used for other things, and the seventh level abstracts it further into the philosophy of work or social events in one's life. Most animals do not have seven layer boards. I think dogs have five, dolphins six. I could be wrong about dolphins, but my point is that philosophy and spatial ability and Socionics cognitive functions have real assigned places in brain circuitry. The hard part is to map the circuits, but that is just a matter of time and money.

*The circuitry in the seven layers is all identical. That is, the same circuit stack that accepts visual input from the bottom up, can be re-purposed to drive muscles from the top down. Intention to go to the store, motivation to move across the room, decide to walk, select muscle groups, set up firing pattern to coordinate muscle contractions, output nerve impulses to muscle fibers. The brain areas are completely general and, initially, probably non-specific so they can be used for other things, but the brain is just about at the limit of our bodies to cool it, and so it can't make more circuit board without burning up. So, choose one: spatial ability or language, and let Darwin sort it out.

So far, he's been on the side of the language-processors and right-handers.

But, our Day Will Come!!! The Left Hand of Darkness will Rise Again! BWAHHH HAAH HAAAA HAAAAAAAAA

Can you verify the answer?
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1401.8242v2.pdf

I "sucked" at organic chemistry (my lowest grades: 1/5 and 3/5 at university). Do you think that you would be great at it? For the reference google search page:
https://www.google.fi/search?q=organ...w=1366&bih=657
Got to love this
before_after_organicexam.png

[The Exception]

I did well in organic chemistry and didn't have too much difficulty with the spatial reasoning there. Again, the molecules were drawn as 2-D representations as 3-D structures and as long as things are 2-D, I can flip and rotate them no problem.

[Not A Communist Shill]

16

I should say that for more than half the questions, I chose a random answer

[The Reality Denialist]

I did well in organic chemistry and didn't have too much difficulty with the spatial reasoning there. Again, the molecules were drawn as 2-D representations as 3-D structures and as long as things are 2-D, I can flip and rotate them no problem.

Yes. The problem with exams is that it tests your ability to memorize. I don't particularly like that. I studied biochemistry as well but stopped at metabolism. Remembering the cycles was pure hell. I did have few exams where we were allowed to bring books/anything you could carry and you were free to move around the globe while doing the exam. I aced at those tests and people still failed at them in great proportions.

[The Exception]

Yes. The problem with exams is that it tests your ability to memorize. I don't particularly like that. I studied biochemistry as well but stopped at metabolism. Remembering the cycles was pure hell. I did have few exams where we were allowed to bring books/anything you could carry and you were free to move around the globe while doing the exam. I aced at those tests and people still failed at them in great proportions.

Oh the cycles, the horror. Yes, we were required to memorize them. I'm not sure why.

[Olimpia]

16, haha.

Not surprised, given I've expected to get a low result anyways, as someone with weak Sensing (Se in particular). In real life, I still have trouble with parking my car, so yeah, no wonder!

I am just glad I did not get a score worse than "normal", haha.

And yes, I can speak/read in several languages. My strength lies in languages. Also, I am right-handed.

[ashlesha]

16, haha.

Not surprised, given I've expected to get a low result anyways, as someone with weak Sensing (Se in particular). In real life, I still have trouble with parking my car, so yeah, no wonder!

I am just glad I did not get a score worse than "normal", haha.

And yes, I can speak/read in several languages. My strength lies in languages. Also, I am right-handed.

What makes you say its sensing related? I thought it might be until I saw Adam and inumbras scores.

[Olimpia]

What makes you say its sensing related? I thought it might be until I saw Adam and inumbras scores.

I still believe Spatial intelligence is Sensing related. Adam may not be a Sensing ego type, but Sensing HA is still superior to Sensing inferior. (Especially with Te subtype.)
And then he made good points in regards to how a certain brain structure can be tied to good spatial intelligence.

Why I personally believe it is Sensing related: Well, in this test you have to imagine or rather "know" how certain objects would look like under certain conditions. Doesn't Sensing store sensorial information; and Se in particular those of exterior objects? That's how Se ego types know exactly how to use objects in their environment the best, what kind of pressure needs to be exerted, etc. In that manner, I've thought Sensing types would naturally be better at imagining the possible shadows or whatever of certain objects, given they have already stored a lot of information on objects in the real world before.

[mu4]

Your score was 22 (4 correct in section one, 7 correct in section two, 5 correct in section three, 6 correct in section four). Interpretations are below.

[Creepy-bg]

Your score was 23 (6 correct in section one, 5 correct in section two, 6 correct in section three, 6 correct in section four)

interesting, the later two sections i progressively spent less effort working through each one and went more on subconscious impression or something. the last one with the shadows i thought i was going to blow because of this, but i actually did fine.

[ashlesha]

I'm googling and finding that there is a documented correlation between spatial intelligence /mentally rotating objects and mbti Se. it's throwing me into doubt, considering my score was 12...but 1.I'm usually good at these tests, 2.i did it on my phone, and 3.that correlation isn't holding true in this thread really at all.

[Creepy-bg]

the part where you had to pick the shape of the diagonal cross section of the things in the frames was the most brutal for me. I didn't feel sure of any of my answers on that one (except for the first ones and the ones with a protrusion poking out that i could use to narrow it down), although i do feel like that's just a trick of the brain that i've never had to use before and with some practice i could get confident in it.

[ashlesha]

Also I don't know what "working well" means, maybe it was all fucked up lol

Screenshot_2015-10-30-17-25-42.jpg

But I don't wanna take it again so whatever.

[ashlesha]

[Anglas]

13

[ashlesha]

oh my god i took it again on an actual laptop and got a score of 20, even though i got stuck on one in the third part and ended up running out of time halfway through. i can stop dwelling on this stupid shit now!!

[Beautiful sky]

My score was 24 (6 correct in section one, 8 correct in section two, 5 correct in section three, 5 correct in section four)

Hi Andreas

[FDG]

27

i'm usually good at this but I fail to see its real world applicability except when I'm driving and/or hiking

[ragnar]

Here is a spatial to tease your brain
http://psychometrics.akresgr.org/spatialtest/

Your score was 12 (3 correct in section one, 3 correct in section two, 3 correct in section three, 3 correct in section four).

[Contra]

I got 20. (5 correct in section one, 7 correct in section two, 5 correct in section three, 3 correct in section four)

Even though it wasn't my best score, I thought determining the shape from the 3 planes was fairly easy, just for my mind. I actually thought section 2 was pretty hard, but I just sort of used a sense of intuition. And I thought the shadows one was ridiculous. I was pretty much guessing. I also wasn't sure on the directions for that one.

I also took the vocabulary test. I thought that was sort of interesting.

[ghost of forum past]

Your score was 25 (8 correct in section one, 8 correct in section two, 4 correct in section three, 5 correct in section four).

Interesting. Wish it could help me drive. My directional ability is poor.

[suedehead]

20

[Chakram]

13, that band section was really weird. I think I know what I was doing for it but maybe not.

[Jeremy8419]

24. Usually do the worst on the spatial awareness portions. Found the section with the frame and bisecting the figure to be most difficult one. Couldn't decide if the frame was supposed to be perfectly vertical compared to the object or not lol.
@Adam Strange
Aren't these basically Si and Ti? You're Si PoLR lol.

I always considered this sort of thing to be SLI specialty, tbh.

[jason_m]

Your score was 23 (7 correct in section one, 6 correct in section two, 5 correct in section three, 5 correct in section four). Interpretations are below.

Score range Interpretation
12-20 Normal
21+ Very good (top 15%)
25+ Very, very good (top 2%)

[The Reality Denialist]

Your score was 25 (8 correct in section one, 8 correct in section two, 4 correct in section three, 5 correct in section four).

Interesting. Wish it could help me drive. My directional ability is poor.

This is interesting. In which way do you fail with your directional abilities. I have low sense of where my body is but I can navigate externally, somehow. Using pedals and gearstick... Telling which is left or right is bit of a struggle for me. Imaging where to place of east vs west on a map: no problem.

[The Reality Denialist]

edited for sexual orientation reasons. (let's apply more PC term)

[The Reality Denialist]

Allocentric vs. Egocentric Spatial Processing


I'm definitely allocentric.

In our lab, we examine individual differences in egocentric (imagining taking a different perspective in space) and allocentric (mentally manipulating objects from a stationary point of view ) spatial abilities, and develop assessments of these abilities .Our research also seeks to discover the relation of these two types of spatial ability to locomotion and spatial navigation.

Static vs dynamic? Fi vs Ti?


Some sort of Fi? Never went through that kind of phase. That kind of behavior is very foreign to me. Hence I can not be empathetic to normal human experience at all. Allocentric universality...