I'm ILE

[Creepy-male]

I've just read through the description on wikisocion and realized I actually identity with that much more in each area.

LII still holds some wait, but I'm making it offical if there are no considerable arguments against it.

[Existential Potato]

They're kind of different

and the ILE page has like 2 paragraphs written for it on wikisocion

[Timeless]

Can you fly Bobby?

[Creepy-Pied Piper]

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[Rubicon]

[Rubicon]

I would like a VI please.

I would like a drink please.

[Blaze]

I would like a drink please.

make it a double

[Wynch]

Screw it, let's have a party

[Rubicon]

Screw it, let's have a party

dammit Vero.. this is seriouss socionical stuff

[The Exception]

Screw it, let's have a party

dammit Vero.. this is seriouss socionical stuff

Unless its a socionics party. Everyone comes dressed as their base function or better yet as a famous person that's their type. So Vero could go as Don Quixote and I could go as Robespierre. And we could play games like pin the PoLR on the donkey.

[Rubicon]

Unless its a socionics party. Everyone comes dressed as their base function or better yet as a famous person that's their type. So Vero could go as Don Quixote and I could go as Robespierre. And we could play games like pin the PoLR on the donkey.

I'm still not getting how that's socionics-related.

[DividedsGhost]

I just want to make it clear that ILE has Fi PoLR. What people value really doesn't connect well with an ILE. They for the most part, don't give a shit and will go along with whatever values someone wants to uphold because going against would mean giving a shit...and they don't. Quite different from having it as a role function as an LII. Is this you? LOL.

[Galen]

I've just read through the description on wikisocion

[xerx]

I just want to make it clear that ILE has Fi PoLR. What people value really doesn't connect well with an ILE. They for the most part, don't give a shit and will go along with whatever values someone wants to uphold because going against would mean giving a shit...and they don't. Quite different from having it as a role function as an LII. Is this you? LOL.

Best and most accurate thing I've ever read on here!

[Creepy-Pied Piper]

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[Jarno]

me too...I found out for sure last week, but guess deep inside I really always have been; I can trace all of my positive behaviors to and and my positive subconscious motives to and

whahaha

[Wynch]

I wonder if that's true about Vero .

I think you'd be surprised how true it is. People mistake my interest in gender relations for a set of values all the time. The marked difference between my EII cubicle mate and I on that subject is she actually cares about it and about making a difference while I only really care about deconstructing the idea.

The key to that aspect of ILE is not that they're apathetic about the world, but that they don't get the point of a stringent values system. The justification for values isn't based in their realm of reasoning and they can't reason out the point of caring about it.

If you want to use me as an example, there is a difference between someone who rants because people are abusing their principles and people who rant because they see ignorance.

Someone who rants on principles will focus on the injustices, the unfairness, etc and then try to draw in practical evidences to justify their position.

Someone like me, on the other hand, isn't interested in the injustice of it. They're interested in the supporting framework in a set of ideas. You'll see someone like me ranting under a couple of conditions. First, I will let loose on someone who holds a position of justice or injustice when they have no logical argument to support their position. Second, I will let loose on someone who holds a one-sided or uninformed position because I'm deeply bothered by the idea that someone will trust their ill-constructed argument.

I don't expect that you'll get the point here, Pinocchio, but I need to get the counter argument out there. Like I said, I'm deeply bothered by people with uninformed or ill-considered positions.

[Creepy-Pied Piper]

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[Wynch]

I am. You always try to justify your position.

Of course I try to justify my position. An unreasoned argument is nothing more than an appeal to authority.

I understand what you're aiming at: I'm bad, evil, ignorant, illogical, stubborn, always wrong => I can't be right about you .

No, you're attributing motivations and opinions to me that I haven't expressed. Of those things I would only call you stubborn and ignorant, though I would add single-minded and over-confident to that list as well.

And nothing says that you can't be right about my type at some point. It isn't because of your attitude that you're wrong about my type. You could be satan and make a valid argument. It's because your argument for my typing is based on ill-founded assumptions about my motivations (just as you've done above) that precludes you from successfully typing me.

[Aiss]

If only you could see how alike the two of you are.

[tcaudilllg]

That would explain why you give me mirror responses so frequently.