Ni = Concurrent Threads
Ne = Threads of potentials
Ne vs Ni
Ni = Concurrent Threads
Ne = Threads of potentials
-Slava
ENTP/INTP
That makes you a Ni base.
how so?
I suck at history because I can't visualize multiple events simultaneously... I can't be Ni
you think visual and multiple events is Ni? You're wrong.Originally Posted by SlavaPHP
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Dual type(as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Yeah! Why you so cray cray, that's obviously not endothermic solipsism of tangents!
If you have strong Ne, then you have strong Ni.
If what you wrote is Ni, and you are Ne, then you CAN do it. Except that it would interfere with your Ne, and you'd choose to focus on the Ne info rather than the Ni info.
Here's one simple example:
The Ne type pays attention to the varied possibilities that can occur given a particular context. The Ne base sees multiple possible scenarios or ways that an event can play out.
The Ni type pays attention to what is most likely going to happen given the context. They've removed the possibilities that don't quite fit the situation as they see it.
The Ni type tells the Ne type how the situation is likely to play out.
The Ne type says nonono, that's only one possibility, it could also be X, Y, or Z.
The Ni type dismisses X, Y, Z, for whatever reason.
But the Ne is unlikely to let them go.
Hence, one of the conflicts between Ni and Ne. To pay attention to the valued info, one subdues the other (or tries to, heh).
(For the record, I see this as only ONE simplified example of Ne vs Ni. And it's quite possible that this example could better fit one or two of the reinin dichotomies instead.)
IEE 649 sx/sp cp
^ the above sounds more as if it was about Si/Se than Ni. fwiw.
That was a jab at you making concurrent forum treads with little potential.
Not that I think they have no potential or that I mind.
Not necessarily?......
Necessarily, according to model A. Makes sense too for elements to have closer relation to some elements over others. Extraversion and introversion being preferred direction of use of some of the same faculties.
Hmmm, hrrmmmmmmm
If i'm typing em right i've seen some Ti leading types who are rubbish at the practical realisation of their logic, so I have to say no, not necessarily
How so?
IEE 649 sx/sp cp
Ne + Ti, every single one i know has been great at History.
Projection is ordinary. Person A projects at person B, hoping tovalidate something about person A by the response of person B. However, person B, not wanting to be an obejct of someone elses ego and guarding against existential terror constructs a personality which protects his ego and maintain a certain sense of a robust and real self that is different and separate from person A. Sadly, this robust and real self, cut off by defenses of character from the rest of the world, is quite vulnerable and fragile given that it is imaginary and propped up through external feed back. Person B is dimly aware of this and defends against it all the more, even desperately projecting his anxieties back onto person A, with the hope of shoring up his ego with salubrious validation. All of this happens without A or B acknowledging it, of course. Because to face up to it consciously is shocking, in that this is all anybody is doing or can do and it seems absurd when you realize how pathetic it is.
Not jut model A, but dimensional strengths.Hmmm, hrrmmmmmmm
If i'm typing em right i've seen some Ti leading types who are rubbish at the practical realisation of their logic, so I have to say no, not necessarily
Ti leading would be 4d global/developmental strength.
Which would give them Te 3d situational strength.
(and Fi 2d rules/norms with Fe 1d experience)
IEE 649 sx/sp cp
is Ni like a grant chart?
gant chart
I am terrible at history because it is political. It is all about "women in the American civil war," pretty much no matter what the class title was. The class title is "Socrates and the Muse" but somehow it turns out to be about women in the civil war, you take a class on "The Crisis of the Gilded Age" but no, it is about women in the civil war. How about "Medieval Spanish History, the Reconquista." Nope, the actual course content is Women in the Civil War.
I came to hate history.
Socionics -
the16types.info
Strength we are talking about here is comparative easiness and productivity of some mental tools over others.Hmmm, hrrmmmmmmm
If i'm typing em right i've seen some Ti leading types who are rubbish at the practical realisation of their logic, so I have to say no, not necessarily
Things that can obfuscate that from translating to being better than other people in particular task are:
1.general intelligence
2. practice
3. motivation
Last too being quite the culprit for element at the ignored function.
Also, your "realization of their logic" sounds like "realization of a projects" which requires plethora of elements and is and doesn't just happen for anyone without significant practice.
That has nothing to do with subject of history, does it? Just quality of education.
@Esaman I was joking... (But I am good at history. Oh no I guess it is HIS story.
Socionics -
the16types.info
it's either not type related or 1 and 2 dimensional Ne/Ni, which is what Si/Se types have. the pitfalls of that seem to be overconfidence relating to future developments (or a thorough lack of it). imo.
anyway if your Ne is 4d and Ni is 3d you probably don't quite describe 4d Ni anyway so it makes it feel alien to self-declared Ni-dom aka me humble self (and the same goes for everyone of every type wrt other elements etc.)
... that, and socionics is bs.
I remember in history we learned all about 'civilian life' in WW2 - 9001 times. We never got to play with tanks. Killing people and crushing their skulls under your facist/communist boot is the best bit too
This means you are a human being, for this is how human brains generally work. People are notoriously terrible at multitasking; they/we don't so much do two things at once consciously as much as they/we switch back and forth between different tasks.
Maybe im INTj...
-Slava
ENTP/INTP
They may be historians in the modern age but they are great like Ken Jennings....they participate less in the great undertakings like the architects of Ni.
I think ENTp. You are too sensitive = Fi PoLR
Socionics -
the16types.info
I sometimes start snarling when people make jokes or ask me to tell a joke... especially when they ask me to confirm it
-Slava
ENTP/INTP
I wish I was another type ... ENTp is like second to last in terms of income :-(
-Slava
ENTP/INTP
where did you hear that?
Socionics -
the16types.info
http://www.typologycentral.com/forum...lary-type.html
-Slava
ENTP/INTP
ENTP - $62,960
That is a good wage!
Socionics -
the16types.info
That's for MBTI, which is inherently different from Socionics. Also, it's difficult to consider that information valid, the sample pool is likely to be impure and full of misreportings. I recall the method of them checking the income was to have people choose from pay range brackets.
Any type can make lots of money, though. Being assertive and highly competent will lend to this. Successful entrepreneurs would likely far exceed the top earning type on that list, too.
I think I'm more afraid of Se than Fi
although I'm not afraid to tell people what to do
I think I have two layers of personality... one is intj the other entp... not sure which is on top
Bit of an oversimplification.
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