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    Peter Parker: ILE (I might consider LII, but I think Se Role is obvious when he gets Venom-ized)
    Mary Jane: SEI/IEI
    Harry: SLE
    Flint Marko/Sandman: LSE
    Eddie Brock/Venom: SEE
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    Aunt May: EII
    Jonah Jameson: LSI/LIE
    (His secretary: SEI )
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    Eddie Brock/Venom: SEE
    The actor seems so dominate it hurts. Almost to the point where I can not see the character anything other than a IEE or ILE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by electric
    Eddie Brock/Venom: SEE
    The actor seems so dominate it hurts. Almost to the point where I can not see the character anything other than a IEE or ILE.
    I agree.

    I also think that PP and MJ's personalities are inconsistent in the film and are bad for typing.

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    The actor does seem Ne dominant, I agree, and he doesn't pull off an Se attitude very credibly, but his role in the film is that of an SEE, I think. Just look at how quickly he latches on to Jameson: he sucks up to him because he's in a position of power, and uses a little Fe flattery to "get in good" right away. That's Se all the way: he knows where the power lies, and he knows how to take advantage of it. Maybe SLE is a better option, but SEE was more my impression.

    Peter's personality is obviously inconsistent, but I think it's fairly obvious that he's an Alpha NT, and while LII fits the overall persona a little better, the whole deal with the Black Spiderman and getting so infatuated with the power that it turns him bad seems more like Se role than Se PoLR. It's especially obvious when he over-adopts that little swagger when he starts noticing girls looking at him: totally something an over-cocky (and completely self-unaware ) ILE would do in that position.
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    Actually, I'm thinking SLE or EIE is a better choice. He's obsessed with his reputation, and is completely devistated when it's ruined by Peter. That, and the immediate click with Jameson probably make a Beta type more likely.
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    I thought the Jonah Jameson character is a SEE. No really objective reason why, I just so happened to develop the idea that the stereotypical grumpy editor is a SEE.

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    Harry: SLE
    I am not sure if it is fair to say Harry is an ESTp.
    He seems a lot more emotionally driven, or -STj.

    But that is more a vague feeling than a solid remark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isha
    MJ does not deserve Peter.

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    NO it is not!

    at the theatre, when she kissed Harry, someone shouted quickly "(Whore!)".
    It was met with applause by the entire audience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isha
    Did you also notice that the singer they replaced her with was out of tune? Really... if they were going to replace her they could have at least picked someone better.

    Anyway, Peter was trying to be helpful and supportive and MJ was all like "It's not about you!" which was completely irrelevent because the problem was that Peter misunderstood the problem (not his fault because MJ didn't actually tell him the problem), and if anyone was being selfish it was her.
    Yes yes, indubitably.

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    Peter Parker and Mary Jane are both Ne/Si types. That's all that needs to be said as far as I'm concerned. The whole movie was very Ne/Si.
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    true... but the overwhelming Ne/Si was all I noticed in the 3rd movie

    the second movie kicked ass though
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isha
    Anyway, Peter was trying to be helpful and supportive and MJ was all like "It's not about you!" which was completely irrelevent because the problem was that Peter misunderstood the problem (not his fault because MJ didn't actually tell him the problem), and if anyone was being selfish it was her.
    Yes, the problem was her expecting him to just "feel" that something wasn't ok with her without her telling him.
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    I dunno, I have a different take on that situation. First of all, they're both idiots. That said... There was obviously something wrong with her, but he was too self-absorbed to notice. His being self-absorbed was the problem. That said, she should have told him that his being self-absorbed was a problem instead of just running off all emo-like and then kissing someone else. *shakes head in utter disgust*

    I sorta wondered if he might be Alpha and her Delta. I think Peter thought they were both Delta though? I dunno, and I don't really care. Like I said, Ne/Si. And stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    Quote Originally Posted by Isha
    Anyway, Peter was trying to be helpful and supportive and MJ was all like "It's not about you!" which was completely irrelevent because the problem was that Peter misunderstood the problem (not his fault because MJ didn't actually tell him the problem), and if anyone was being selfish it was her.
    Yes, the problem was her expecting him to just "feel" that something wasn't ok with her without her telling him.
    she was expecting him to acively ask. she was all ready to tell about it. she even made hints. that's why I think they are both introverts. They would have been ok if she had been ESFj who just tells her problems without waiting for him to show active interest first.
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    Peter was acting like a turd throughout the movie, and his attempts at helping MJ were half-assed. She was upset because her self-esteem was under fire, and wanted Peter to forget about/not mention Spider-Man for a while and just understand that she wasn't going to magically feel better. I don't see how people think she didn't explain that she was upset. It was quite clear. Peter was a douche pretty much the entire movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
    I dunno, I have a different take on that situation. First of all, they're both idiots. That said... There was obviously something wrong with her, but he was too self-absorbed to notice
    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe
    I don't see how people think she didn't explain that she was upset. It was quite clear. Peter was a douche pretty much the entire movie.
    Ok, I think that's a fair appraisal.
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    I do then think that it is likely that Peter is an ENTp since a potential HA shows itself, but then again his oppositionary nature with also shows. I do think, however, that both PP and MJ are Alpha.
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    I don't see how people think she didn't explain that she was upset. It was quite clear. Peter was a douche pretty much the entire movie.

    I didn't understand how he didn't find out she was fired, how did he not notice that his girlfriend was fired from her very awesome, public hyped-up job?

    So that makes him thick I think...but she could have just told him strait out...and I was also disgusted with the kissing Harry.


    Characters did things in this movie purely for the story line. The focus of the film doesn't seem to be to make the characters well-rounded. They are inconsistant because their actions are controlled by the amount of drama the producers needed to create to make the movie exciting in all aspects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe
    Peter was acting like a turd throughout the movie, and his attempts at helping MJ were half-assed. She was upset because her self-esteem was under fire, and wanted Peter to forget about/not mention Spider-Man for a while and just understand that she wasn't going to magically feel better. I don't see how people think she didn't explain that she was upset. It was quite clear. Peter was a douche pretty much the entire movie.
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