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    Why is every brute beta, why is every obnoxious person supposed to be beta, why is American Pie beta?! WTF?! Like really. Unnecessary drama, over-acted emotionalism, aggressive behavior, being bossy, only wanting money, caring more about "what people think" than about reasonable behavior, Russia acts so beta, ...etc. The list goes on and on.

    Beta has the worst reputation of all. This is of course totally biased and unjust. I wish people would stop accusing beta of everything that is wrong in the world and start seeing how fucked up their own quadras are.
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    Why is every brute beta, why is every obnoxious person supposed to be beta, why is American Pie beta?! WTF?! Like really. Unnecessary drama, over-acted emotionalism, aggressive behavior, being bossy, only wanting money, caring more about "what people think" than about reasonable behavior, Russia acts so beta, ...etc. The list goes on and on.

    Beta has the worst reputation of all. This is of course totally biased and unjust. I wish people would stop accusing beta of everything that is wrong in the world and start seeing how fucked up their own quadras are.
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    it could be worse... you could be a gamma

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    it could be worse... you could be a gamma

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    I think this was done once before but here we go again...

    Alpha


    Beta


    Gamma


    Delta

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    I think this was done once before but here we go again...

    Alpha


    Beta


    Gamma


    Delta

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    So as you can see from these pics Russia does act kind of Beta nowadays

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    So as you can see from these pics Russia does act kind of Beta nowadays

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    bad rap=good rap > no rap
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    bad rap=good rap > no rap
    Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit

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    Lol, I was also thinking of making a thread about this. I get the impression people type betas on the basis of this "inadequate" (To put it mildly) behavior "Dramatic, aggressive, loud, obnoxious, he must be some kind of a beta". Or in other words, person possesses bad qualities = beta.

    Quote Originally Posted by FDG
    bad rap=good rap > no rap
    I disagree. No rep = no connections = liberty. You're free to do as you wish with no fear of judgment (Which = persecution = loss of liberty = not living, being as good as dead).

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    Lol, I was also thinking of making a thread about this. I get the impression people type betas on the basis of this "inadequate" (To put it mildly) behavior "Dramatic, aggressive, loud, obnoxious, he must be some kind of a beta". Or in other words, person possesses bad qualities = beta.

    Quote Originally Posted by FDG
    bad rap=good rap > no rap
    I disagree. No rep = no connections = liberty. You're free to do as you wish with no fear of judgment (Which = persecution = loss of liberty = not living, being as good as dead).

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    How consequential is human judgment really?
    She is wise
    beyond words
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    lovelier than
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    dreams larger
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    Because everything
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    A couple years ago I was put in charge of decorating the college for Valentine's Day. I made some gorgeous, fancy decorations from construction paper, glue, scissors, and imagination. Then I covered a couple cabinets with them. But my favorite was the diagram of a human heart I put up. So romantic!

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    How consequential is human judgment really?
    She is wise
    beyond words
    beautiful within
    her soul
    brighter than
    the sun
    lovelier than
    love
    dreams larger
    than life
    and does not
    understand the
    meaning of no.
    Because everything
    through her, and in her, is
    "Yes, it will be done."


    Why I love LSEs:
    Quote Originally Posted by Abbie
    A couple years ago I was put in charge of decorating the college for Valentine's Day. I made some gorgeous, fancy decorations from construction paper, glue, scissors, and imagination. Then I covered a couple cabinets with them. But my favorite was the diagram of a human heart I put up. So romantic!

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    Quote Originally Posted by snegledmaca
    Lol, I was also thinking of making a thread about this. I get the impression people type betas on the basis of this "inadequate" (To put it mildly) behavior "Dramatic, aggressive, loud, obnoxious, he must be some kind of a beta". Or in other words, person possesses bad qualities = beta.

    Quote Originally Posted by FDG
    bad rap=good rap > no rap
    I disagree. No rep = no connections = liberty. You're free to do as you wish with no fear of judgment (Which = persecution = loss of liberty = not living, being as good as dead).
    You're free to do whatever you want even if you have bad rep actually
    Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit

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    Quote Originally Posted by snegledmaca
    Lol, I was also thinking of making a thread about this. I get the impression people type betas on the basis of this "inadequate" (To put it mildly) behavior "Dramatic, aggressive, loud, obnoxious, he must be some kind of a beta". Or in other words, person possesses bad qualities = beta.

    Quote Originally Posted by FDG
    bad rap=good rap > no rap
    I disagree. No rep = no connections = liberty. You're free to do as you wish with no fear of judgment (Which = persecution = loss of liberty = not living, being as good as dead).
    You're free to do whatever you want even if you have bad rep actually
    Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit

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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG
    You're free to do whatever you want even if you have bad rep actually
    Well, uhm, I'm not really that proactive so having a bad reputation severely limits my potential. How about good rep < no rep < bad rep? I just can't see bad rep being better then no rep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG
    You're free to do whatever you want even if you have bad rep actually
    Well, uhm, I'm not really that proactive so having a bad reputation severely limits my potential. How about good rep < no rep < bad rep? I just can't see bad rep being better then no rep.

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    bad reputations/stereotypes for each quadra?

    Alpha: useless, unrealistic
    Beta: mean, cliquey
    Gamma: cold, greedy
    Delta: traditional, boring

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    bad reputations/stereotypes for each quadra?

    Alpha: useless, unrealistic
    Beta: mean, cliquey
    Gamma: cold, greedy
    Delta: traditional, boring

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBlueBlade
    How consequential is human judgment really?
    What do you mean?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBlueBlade
    How consequential is human judgment really?
    What do you mean?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG
    Quote Originally Posted by snegledmaca
    Lol, I was also thinking of making a thread about this. I get the impression people type betas on the basis of this "inadequate" (To put it mildly) behavior "Dramatic, aggressive, loud, obnoxious, he must be some kind of a beta". Or in other words, person possesses bad qualities = beta.

    Quote Originally Posted by FDG
    bad rap=good rap > no rap
    I disagree. No rep = no connections = liberty. You're free to do as you wish with no fear of judgment (Which = persecution = loss of liberty = not living, being as good as dead).
    You're free to do whatever you want even if you have bad rep actually
    Having no rep is the worst imo. It seems as if no one cares about you and you are been ignored.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG
    Quote Originally Posted by snegledmaca
    Lol, I was also thinking of making a thread about this. I get the impression people type betas on the basis of this "inadequate" (To put it mildly) behavior "Dramatic, aggressive, loud, obnoxious, he must be some kind of a beta". Or in other words, person possesses bad qualities = beta.

    Quote Originally Posted by FDG
    bad rap=good rap > no rap
    I disagree. No rep = no connections = liberty. You're free to do as you wish with no fear of judgment (Which = persecution = loss of liberty = not living, being as good as dead).
    You're free to do whatever you want even if you have bad rep actually
    Having no rep is the worst imo. It seems as if no one cares about you and you are been ignored.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBlueBlade
    How consequential is human judgment really?
    absolutely meaningless, but still menacingly important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBlueBlade
    How consequential is human judgment really?
    absolutely meaningless, but still menacingly important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eunice
    Having no rep is the worst imo. It seems as if no one cares about you and you are been ignored.
    Lol, sounds perfect to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eunice
    Having no rep is the worst imo. It seems as if no one cares about you and you are been ignored.
    Lol, sounds perfect to me.

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    Don't worry. In the real world, we're loved. And if people don't love us, we can always strong-arm and beat them into submission, or have a hissy fit and make them listen to our grievances which we artfully magnify to Biblical proportions.
    "How could we forget those ancient myths that stand at the beginning of all races, the myths about dragons that at the last moment are transformed into princesses? Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love."
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    Quote Originally Posted by XoX
    I think this was done once before but here we go again...

    Alpha


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    NO


    EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE PICTURE APPEALED TO ME A LOT SO YOU'RE WRONG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snegledmaca
    Quote Originally Posted by eunice
    Having no rep is the worst imo. It seems as if no one cares about you and you are been ignored.
    Lol, sounds perfect to me.
    Yes. I don't like being bothered, either (most of the time).
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    Weird... you INFps really like being ignored? =/

    Maybe it's just me who is the attention-freak then.. perhaps I really *am* ENFj at heart.

    Anyway.. I actually enjoy this "bad rep" of Betas.. I agree with FDG that no rep is worse. I'd rather be over-dramatic and agressive than traditional, boring, useless.. etc. I find that some people are scared of Betans and/or intimidated by the extreme motivation fueled by aggression..

    But we have our soft side.. the romantic NiFe side..

    Which is why that damn Dino pic doesn't fit


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    Quote Originally Posted by Baby
    Don't worry. In the real world, we're loved. And if people don't love us, we can always strong-arm and beat them into submission, or have a hissy fit and make them listen to our grievances which we artfully magnify to Biblical proportions.
    +10000000


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    baby is correct.
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    Heath is correct.
    She is wise
    beyond words
    beautiful within
    her soul
    brighter than
    the sun
    lovelier than
    love
    dreams larger
    than life
    and does not
    understand the
    meaning of no.
    Because everything
    through her, and in her, is
    "Yes, it will be done."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbie
    A couple years ago I was put in charge of decorating the college for Valentine's Day. I made some gorgeous, fancy decorations from construction paper, glue, scissors, and imagination. Then I covered a couple cabinets with them. But my favorite was the diagram of a human heart I put up. So romantic!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarlettLux
    But we have our soft side.. the romantic NiFe side..

    Which is why that damn Dino pic doesn't fit
    Are you implying that dinosaurs didn't have a soft, romantic side?


    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
    bad reputations/stereotypes for each quadra?

    Alpha: useless, unrealistic
    Beta: mean, cliquey
    Gamma: cold, greedy
    Delta: traditional, boring
    This is good, but Delta is not necessarily "traditional" -- I'd say -- "moralistic" perhaps?
    , LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
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    gah you're like the shittiest ENTj ever!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clover
    NO

    EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE PICTURE APPEALED TO ME A LOT SO YOU'RE WRONG.
    You are just multitalented. And WROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG.

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    Beta gets a bad rep because most of the people who frequent here were losers in high school. That's about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GillySaysGoodbye
    Beta gets a bad rep because most of the people who frequent here were losers in high school. That's about it.
    as opposed to losers in college?

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