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    Default good job for LII that isnt math, science, tech stuff

    am asking for a friend


    i know someone who is LII-H but they doesnt like math science stuff and feel jaded at the workforce. what job can they do where theyre happy that isnt a "nerdy" job such as IT. (must be legal)



    (i am not asking for a friend. i just dont wanna get caught in the wrong TIM again... but this time i had someone else type me.)


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    They should sell weed


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    But being serious, they should maybe work in chemistry, maybe law, or even as a teacher, I can also see them talking a good role in being a historian. Maybe biology, but I know Se polar peeps often don't fancy dissecting dead bodies of people and animals on occasions.

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    that is science tho

    still one of those nerdy stem professions

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    Quote Originally Posted by anotherperson View Post
    job can they do where theyre happy that isnt a "nerdy" job such as IT
    NT perceive "nerdy job such as IT" positively. hence it's not LII with good chance
    IT is most paid and available for new occupations region today. any technical or related to technics job where needs to think and lesser to use hands fits NT predispositions

    also good possibly to like jobs accented on weak valued regions. those will need more of efforts and doubtful to have excellent results, but average - possibly.
    by Si would be cooking by Fe to be a circus clown. mb this can be matched

    > but this time i had someone else type me

    you have F

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    NT perceive "nerdy job such as IT" positively. hence it's not LII with good chance
    IT is most paid and available for new occupations region today. any technical or related to technics job where needs to think and lesser to use hands fits NT predispositions

    also good possibly to like jobs accented on weak valued regions. those will need more of efforts and doubtful to have excellent results, but average - possibly.
    by Si would be cooking by Fe to be a circus clown. mb this can be matched

    > but this time i had someone else type me

    you have F
    many people have different types for me. its getting out of hand. why do you say im a feeler

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    What a good job is depends on the person. Saying he's an LII doesn't provide any relevant info to know what could fit him. It also depends on what one considers to be a good job. Being a baker sounds like a good job for me, since I enjoy cooking, but I doubt it pays well enough to be a "good job".

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    Quote Originally Posted by anotherperson View Post
    many people have different types for me. its getting out of hand. why do you say im a feeler
    In one of the questionnaires you clearly stated you have problems with being logical, and others have confirmed that in your own words, and elsewhere you seem to accept that in the thread with ESI vs SEE with Riven's post about the PoLR explanation.

    Also you showed Si ignoring in the form.

    What problems do you have with SEE?



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    Jung himself is a LII who doesn't like math.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrical Line It View Post
    In one of the questionnaires you clearly stated you have problems with being logical, and others have confirmed that in your own words, and elsewhere you seem to accept that in the thread with ESI vs SEE with Riven's post about the PoLR explanation.

    Also you showed Si ignoring in the form.

    What problems do you have with SEE?
    people said my Se was polr not ego

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    Quote Originally Posted by anotherperson View Post
    people said my Se was polr not ego
    Who?



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    i was typed by braingel/kara as LII...

    this was after i thought i was SLI

    other possiblities were EII, ILI (very doubtful of this one), LSI...

    DEAD says theres no way im a logic type.

    Sol says i am F type but not SEE for undisclosed reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anotherperson View Post
    i was typed by braingel/kara as LII...

    this was after i thought i was SLI

    other possiblities were EII, ILI (very doubtful of this one), LSI...

    DEAD says theres no way im a logic type.

    Sol says i am F type but not SEE for undisclosed reasons.
    Do you think if you a have a problem with weak logic, you could be LII?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrical Line It View Post
    Do you think if you a have a problem with weak logic, you could be LII?
    im not even sure what "logic" is meant to mean.


    but i had doubted ethical type since i am indifferent to emotions (Fe) and ambivalent in relations (Fi)

    maybe not completely indifferent/ambivalent, but at least doubts for ego
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    Quote Originally Posted by anotherperson View Post
    im not even sure what "logic" is meant to mean.
    What have people seen as your weaknesses? What do you dislike about yourself?
    People tend to say im pretty stupid and illogical. they say that my ideas dont make any sense so i opt out of conversing with others. I dislike that i am not as quick as others, it takes me longer to get something.


    Interested in health/medicine as a conversation topic? Are you focused on your body?
    I think health is super fascinating, although I disagree with medical convention sometimes. I prioritise my body sometimes, i don't eat enough since i am scared of being fat. I sometimes overexert myself and refuse to take care of myself. to me it is weak.
    Si ignoring ^

    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...=1#post1561117


    Thinking example in link^


    Does any of this look like Si is valued and with strong thinking?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrical Line It View Post


    Si ignoring ^

    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...=1#post1561117


    Thinking example in link^


    Does any of this look like Si is valued and with strong thinking?
    i dont know. i... guess not? but then if i were say.. SEE. why are people saying polr?

    context: i have had multiple fears of things like, being jumped outside, being ransacked, getting into altercation with physically fit atheltes... etc...
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    Quote Originally Posted by anotherperson View Post
    i dont know. i... guess not? but then if i were say.. SEE. why are people saying polr?

    context: i have had multiple fears of things like, being jumped outside, being ransacked, getting into altercation with physically fit atheltes... etc...
    How would you come to a conclusion with introverted sensing ignoring and weak logic and Se PoLR?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrical Line It View Post
    How would you come to a conclusion with introverted sensing ignoring and weak logic and Se PoLR?

    the idea is being scared of that kind of usurpation is Se blindspot.

    about how its all supposed to fit together, i dont know. im not an expert on socionics. amateur level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anotherperson View Post
    the idea is being scared of that kind of usurpation is Se blindspot.

    about how its all supposed to fit together, i dont know. im not an expert on socionics. amateur level.
    Would be logical for it to fit together, all 3?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrical Line It View Post
    Would be logical for it to fit together, all 3?
    i thought since theres the cautious/bold, value/unvalue, strong/weak, that might have the answer

    wether its logical or not i dont know how to answer that. unless that is a rhetorical question

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    Quote Originally Posted by anotherperson View Post
    i thought since theres the cautious/bold, value/unvalue, strong/weak, that might have the answer

    wether its logical or not i dont know how to answer that. unless that is a rhetorical question
    If you don't value Si can you be Se PoLR?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrical Line It View Post
    If you don't value Si can you be Se PoLR?

    uhhh... no, you cant

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    Quote Originally Posted by anotherperson View Post
    uhhh... no, you cant
    Ok you you are not Se PoLR?

    If Si is my right hand, and Se is my left hand, am i right handed, am i left handed or am i both handed?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrical Line It View Post
    Ok you you are not Se PoLR?

    If Si is my right hand, and Se is my left hand, am i right handed, am i left handed or am i both handed?
    what??...

    i guess left since youre a beta type

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    Quote Originally Posted by anotherperson View Post
    what??...

    i guess left since youre a beta type
    If Si is your right hand, and Se is your left hand, are you right handed, or are you left handed, or are you both handed?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrical Line It View Post
    If Si is your right hand, and Se is your left hand, are you right handed, or are you left handed, or are you both handed?
    left...? ? ?


    could the Si be demo then ... ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by anotherperson View Post
    left...? ? ?

    You can only be one and not the other, right?

    Se PoLR: https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...=1#post1377228



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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrical Line It View Post
    You can only be one and not the other, right?

    Se PoLR: https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...=1#post1377228
    if were talking about functions. yeah. about hands, i seen ambidextrous people before.

    SE polr... i am not *that* passive . . . i can assert myself if it comes to it . . but its not my first choice

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    Quote Originally Posted by anotherperson View Post
    if were talking about functions. yeah. about hands, i seen ambidextrous people before.

    SE polr... i am not *that* passive . . . i can assert myself if it comes to it . . but its not my first choice
    As an understatement maximum, this doesn't look LII or SLI.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrical Line It View Post
    As an understatement maximum, this doesn't look LII or SLI.
    okay... then what ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by anotherperson View Post
    okay... then what ?
    If you are Si Ignoring, and have weak logic which type do you think fits?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrical Line It View Post
    If you are Si Ignoring, and have weak logic which type do you think fits?
    not SEE if Se isnt my first choice...

    ESI?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by anotherperson View Post
    not SEE if Se isnt my first choice...

    ESI?????
    ESI don't have weak logic and you are Si Ignoring. I have 3 fam. members ESI and they are far from having logical inconsistency.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrical Line It View Post
    As an understatement maximum, this doesn't look LII or SLI.

    It's giving suggestive/mobilizing Se

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    Quote Originally Posted by anotherperson View Post
    am asking for a friend


    i know someone who is LII-H but they doesnt like math science stuff and feel jaded at the workforce. what job can they do where theyre happy that isnt a "nerdy" job such as IT. (must be legal)



    (i am not asking for a friend. i just dont wanna get caught in the wrong TIM again... but this time i had someone else type me.)

    But, those are the only good jobs, period. Don't listen to the16straitjackets.info.

    https://wikisocion.github.io/content...ve_styles.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrical Line It View Post
    ESI don't have weak logic and you are Si Ignoring. I have 3 fam. members ESI and they are far from having logical inconsistency.
    okay... but then what. like i said. SEE doesnt work. does it? what does Se forefront look like. i dont match the SEE charisma or anything like that. I stay alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anotherperson View Post
    okay... but then what. like i said. SEE doesnt work. does it? what does Se forefront look like. i dont match the SEE charisma or anything like that. I stay alone.
    If you fit the model in the terms expressed here, which one is more believable?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrical Line It View Post
    What problems do you have with SEE?
    Now, battle-typing a self-typed LII to SEE is just trolling. Wouldn't the most likely ethical type based on his brief self-description be IEI, not SEE?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrical Line It View Post
    If you fit the model in the terms expressed here, which one is more believable?
    between what and what

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coeruleum Blue View Post
    Now, battle-typing a self-typed LII to SEE is just trolling. Wouldn't the most likely ethical type based on his brief self-description be IEI, not SEE?
    How do you square the questionnaire?



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