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    Björk always struck me as being kind of too dark for Alpha, moreso her music videos than her music, so perhaps it's just whoever she has directing & producing the music videos? Not as solid on this though, as Benn Jordan writes some very dark music due to the bipolar depression, but is probably SEI, or some kind of Delta NF.

    Moloko, perhaps solely through Roisin Murphy (who is about as IEI as they come), would be Beta definitely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galen View Post
    Rebecca Black (?-ISFp)
    Yeah, Alpha SF seems reasonable. I would've guessed ESE.

    Apparently it's some kind of internet meme to make fun of this song, but I don't really see what the fuss is about. To be honest the whole thing strikes me as an example of the dark side of the internet. Some kid records her first song, and because the internet is anonymous and no-one has to look her in the eye, they feel no qualms at all about saying really cruel things. She seems like a nice person who means well, and I hope the infamy she's gained from this helps her to find better producers.

    So yeah -- ESE seems possible, as she seems to have triggered my "ESE-protecting" instinct.
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    Oh god, I may have to look into Rebecca Black. It just might be true...Seems like an song anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Egbert Human View Post
    Björk always struck me as being kind of too dark for Alpha, moreso her music videos than her music, so perhaps it's just whoever she has directing & producing the music videos? Not as solid on this though, as Benn Jordan writes some very dark music due to the bipolar depression, but is probably SEI, or some kind of Delta NF.
    Hm, what else could Bjork be? In my mind SEI and IEE are the most likely typings.

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    Tamar Kaprelian (?Si-ISFp?)



    Anna Rossinelli (Ne-INTj)

    She's a pretty good contender for Eurovision imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    Oh god, I may have to look into Rebecca Black. It just might be true...Seems like an song anyway.
    From Wikipedia:

    In late 2010, a classmate of Black and music-video client of Ark Music Factory, a Los Angeles vanity record label, told her about the company. Black's mother, Georgina Kelly, paid Ark Music $2,000 for a package that included a choice of two pre-written songs; according to Kelly, the payment covered one half or less of the production costs of the music video, and Black's family could have paid nothing in exchange for giving up all rights to the song. Black chose "Friday", as "the other song was about adult love – I haven't experienced that yet. 'Friday' is about hanging out with friends, having fun. I felt like it was my personality in that song." Ark Music handled the song's recording, which used the pitch-correcting software Auto-Tune. Although Kelly had some doubts over the quality of the lyrics, Black assured her that "I sang it as they wrote it, Mom."
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    The video was shot in January 2011 at Black's father's house with friends and family as extras, and requiring multiple takes over 12 hours. Ark Music, according to Black's parents, cautioned them and her that they should not expect her to become famous. Black hoped that her friends and family would enjoy watching the video on YouTube and that it would perhaps help her to later begin a singing career. The video received 4,000 views, enough to please Black, before the Tosh.0 blog post drew attention to it.
    Based on that, she seems like a nice kid whose mom took her to make a song with a cheap production company, and was rewarded with the virulent hatred of the cynical hordes that populate the dark corners of the Internet.

    Also, note her reasons for choosing "Friday" over the other possible song; they're all based on emotion. She hadn't experienced the emotion associated with the other song (adult love), so she went with the song whose associated emotions she had experienced, and which she felt reflected her personality. Combined with the video, I'd say that's a reasonable case for Fe-Ego at least, and probably ESE (her PoLR Ni couldn't foresee any of the possible negative consequences of making the video).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krig the Viking View Post
    Based on that, she seems like a nice kid whose mom took her to make a song with a cheap production company, and was rewarded with the virulent hatred of the cynical hordes that populate the dark corners of the Internet.
    yeah i've read that stuff too, and some article that said she cried over reading some of the comments made about her and the song/video. that made me

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    Rebecca Black is probably LSE, as I suspected. She looks kind of like my LSE composite image.




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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    Rebecca Black is probably LSE, as I suspected. She looks kind of like my LSE composite image.
    I didn't notice anything particularly indicative of Te in her, when I was doing my brief bit of research. I'm curious as to what evidence lead you to that conclusion, or was it just the V.I.?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krig the Viking View Post
    I didn't notice anything particularly indicative of Te in her, when I was doing my brief bit of research. I'm curious as to what evidence lead you to that conclusion, or was it just the V.I.?
    Partly VI, partly the way her music is (boring, about mundane stuff). There's also a point in this interview where she recalls the number of views her video got, with rather impressive precision. Also - a video is "successful" because it gets stuck in people's heads? WTF? Also she's a big fan of Justin Bieber.


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    Here's an interview: [Edit: NVM, you already posted it. ]

    I'm wondering if this discussion should be split into a new thread?
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    God, that song only uses like 4 notes. And watching all the new comments roll in on youtube is pretty hilarious.

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    Last edited by bg; 03-28-2011 at 07:58 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    partly the way her music is (boring, about mundane stuff).
    Not type-related, the song is objectively bad.

    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    There's also a point in this interview where she recalls the number of views her video got, with rather impressive precision.
    Memory != Te

    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    Also - a video is "successful" because it gets stuck in people's heads? WTF?
    I just took that as her trying to rationalize the gap between what she thinks the song is and how it comes off to other people.

    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    Also she's a big fan of Justin Bieber.
    And this makes her not Fe how?

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    @Galen I should note that I'm not 100% sure on this typing and definitely ESE would be my second guess.

    Quote Originally Posted by Galen View Post
    Not type-related, the song is objectively bad.
    You really don't think types are more likely to be perceived as boring than types?

    Memory != Te
    Not what I said.

    I just took that as her trying to rationalize the gap between what she thinks the song is and how it comes off to other people.
    Your point?

    And this makes her not Fe how?
    Well I think Bieber is ESI or maybe EII. Just some supporting evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    Rebecca Black is probably LSE, as I suspected. She looks kind of like my LSE composite image.
    What is that "composite image" and what can that reveal?
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    My first thought was LSE, too, though I have no serious opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolt View Post
    What is that "composite image" and what can that reveal?
    It's a composite of around 8 different LSEs that I personally know. I made some for other types too.

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    Morrissey is a mega Beta.

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    i've wondered for awhile if reggie and the full effect is alpha music. so i will ask the alphas. ?




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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    Partly VI, partly the way her music is (boring, about mundane stuff).
    Hi, haven't talked in awhile.
    It's interesting how many people are misled about Rebecca Black's song. They think she wrote it and that it can give much insight on her personality. A lot of times, that's not how it works in pop music. If you research the song, you'll find that the producers at Ark Music Factory wrote the song. She was given a choice of two songs and she picked that one because it was more age-appropriate. The robotic voice thing with the auto-tune was also their decision. Of course, if her personality resonates with the song, maybe that says something, but people should understand that she didn't write that thing and she's not really responsible for the "badness" of it. Actually, she did a great job for being only 13.

    As to "boring/mundane" suggesting Te? I'm sure that's a slip...you didn't mean that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan View Post
    Hi, haven't talked in awhile.
    It's interesting how many people are misled about Rebecca Black's song. They think she wrote it and that it can give much insight on her personality. A lot of times, that's not how it works in pop music. If you research the song, you'll find that the producers at Ark Music Factory wrote the song. She was given a choice of two songs and she picked that one because it was more age-appropriate. The robotic voice thing with the auto-tune was also their decision. Of course, if her personality resonates with the song, maybe that says something, but people should understand that she didn't write that thing and she's not really responsible for the "badness" of it. Actually, she did a great job for being only 13.
    Yeah, good point. Idk how much input she had into the song. Her voice isn't bad when it's not autotuned.

    As to "boring/mundane" suggesting Te? I'm sure that's a slip...you didn't mean that.
    It's also Si, to be fair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    It's also Si, to be fair.
    I know what you mean...There's a sort of "administrative" quality to LSE, and also the song itself could be seen as LSE. The "directness" of it, proceeding from the obvious intention to appeal to a certain demographic, possibly points towards Te.

    Still, I think there's also LSE-oriented music that's very good, and not at all boring or mundane. This just happens to be a "bad" song...but not so bad as people think, because it's memorable. It's one of those things that's "so bad that it's good," like Plan 9 from Outer Space. If something is unique enough to be considered "the worst <song|movie|etc.> of all time," then it couldn't really be that bad after all.

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    Amelia Curran: Ne-INTj



    Neil Cicierega: Ne-INTj
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    Quote Originally Posted by straytk View Post
    Dude, I love Olivia Lufkin,
    I would pick Bleeding Heart by her, though

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    This is the theme song for horny ESE/ESFjs:



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    Adele: Fe-ESFj

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quaris View Post
    Let me guess, the vocal of Einherjer died in a motorcycle accident, then the other members renamed the band in his memory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ineffable View Post
    Let me guess, the vocal of Einherjer died in a motorcycle accident, then the other members renamed the band in his memory.
    Checked out the band. I take your post as an insult.

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    The Muse seems pretty alpha to me or maybe beta with some alphaness. I like their music anyway.


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    I think Kina Grannis is an SEI.


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    Architecture in Helsinki always struck me as Alpha, maybe it's just all the colours



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    Oh, that portal credits song is really cool.
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    typed Moby as ILE a while back, this song seems typically - hopeful for the future and what it holds.



    Another song that is maybe not Alpha but way .
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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    typed Moby as ILE a while back, this song seems typically - hopeful for the future and what it holds.
    The style is Beta/IEI in the first place (I'd put that in line Smashing Pumpkins, Nirvana, REM). The message is symbolic-Ni - people are made of stars. [1] On Wikipedia I read that Moby's preoccupations are, in all their diversity, solely human-oriented and activist or charitable.
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